Fare rise and ticket changes July 2023

[Stu]

Until this is resolved the new fare structure is fundamentally useless and alienating to the general public.

Only for those who pay with contactless bank cards. Hence why TfWM have suddenly remembered about their Swift Go product and are encouraging its uptake again.

[Straightlines]

Only for those who pay with contactless bank cards. Hence why TfWM have suddenly remembered about their Swift Go product and are encouraging its uptake again.

That's ok then, it's only most semi regular / irregular users then!  

Aka the customers who are most likely to be alienated and seek alternate travel methods.

 

[Stu]

That's ok then, it's only most semi regular / irregular users then! 

Aka the customers who are most likely to be alienated and seek alternate travel methods.

 

Well I did warn about this earlier in the year!


OPINION: "Risk" of passengers being overcharged when using contactless, but there's already a solution
https://wmbu.org.uk/2023/01/opinion-risk-of-passengers-being-overcharged-when-using-contactless-but-theres-already-a-solution/

[Straightlines]

Well I did warn about this earlier in the year!


OPINION: "Risk" of passengers being overcharged when using contactless, but there's already a solution
https://wmbu.org.uk/2023/01/opinion-risk-of-passengers-being-overcharged-when-using-contactless-but-theres-already-a-solution/

TfWM are trying to close the stable door after the horse has bolted, the reality is capping could have been delivered by specifying a standard ticket machine rather than letting operators choose a few years back!

[Tony]

Only for those who pay with contactless bank cards. Hence why TfWM have suddenly remembered about their Swift Go product and are encouraging its uptake again.

And even then you can still buy a paper day ticket with contactless to avoid the problem

[Straightlines]

And even then you can still buy a paper day ticket with contactless to avoid the problem

You aren't avoiding the problem though as paper tickets don't cap.

[Tony]

You aren't avoiding the problem though as paper tickets don't cap.

Paper tickets do cap. Once you've bought one you don't buy anymore.

[Straightlines]

Paper tickets do cap. Once you've bought one you don't buy anymore.

But not over multiple days they don't. (Breaking news: Which is what customers actually want!)

[sonic84]

Has it been confirmed whether the new nbus ticket will be valid to Bromsgrove on the 20, Lichfield on the X3 and Cannock on the X51?

This doesn't appear to have been made clear anywhere as the existing nbus is not valid to these locations 

[Stu]

Has it been confirmed whether the new nbus ticket will be valid to Bromsgrove on the 20, Lichfield on the X3 and Cannock on the X51?

This doesn't appear to have been made clear anywhere as the existing nbus is not valid to these locations

Its a good question and one I eagerly await a response to, same as for those routes from Coventry to Nuneaton, Leamington Spa and Rugby.

[suavegarv]

Probably better to ask for a paper ticket when paying contactless for the nbus ticket to avoid paying too much.
Eg catching Diamond from Kings Heath to town, Arriva 110 from town to Sutton,NX from Sutton to West Brom.
How far can you go on the 110?

[suavegarv]

TfWM are trying to close the stable door after the horse has bolted, the reality is capping could have been delivered by specifying a standard ticket machine rather than letting operators choose a few years back!

Does capping work in other areas where different operators use the same machines such as Merseyside and Manchester or in  Nottingham where Trent Barton use Ticketer and Nottingham City Transport use Init?

[Coventrybususer95]

Its a good question and one I eagerly await a response to, same as for those routes from Coventry to Nuneaton, Leamington Spa and Rugby.

Nxc have said Nuneaton/ Bedworth/ leamington spa will be covered by the new nbus

[Kevin_Brum12]

Probably better to ask for a paper ticket when paying contactless for the nbus ticket to avoid paying too much.
Eg catching Diamond from Kings Heath to town, Arriva 110 from town to Sutton,NX from Sutton to West Brom.
How far can you go on the 110?

If the boundary remains the same as the current Nbus it would be Ashfurlong Road in Whitehouse Common, the north eastern tip of the City of Birmingham.  If the same principle is applied as what NX are applying in Coventry, it would be the terminus in Tamworth.  I guess one way to confirm would be someone getting on the 110 in Tamworth on Monday morning, asking for "a day ticket I can use on the buses in Birmingham" and seeing what they get from the driver.... 

[2206]

If the boundary remains the same as the current Nbus it would be Ashfurlong Road in Whitehouse Common, the north eastern tip of the City of Birmingham.  If the same principle is applied as what NX are applying in Coventry, it would be the terminus in Tamworth.  I guess one way to confirm would be someone getting on the 110 in Tamworth on Monday morning, asking for "a day ticket I can use on the buses in Birmingham" and seeing what they get from the driver....

N Bus is valid up To the Bassetts Pole by the Crematorium on the 110.