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Fare rise and ticket changes July 2023

Started by Ginger66, June 18, 2023, 08:56:17 PM

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Quote from: winston on June 24, 2023, 11:31:29 PMWhy would they put notices up when it's not fully confirmed until early next week.

They've already put a notice out on their website.
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/fare-and-ticket-changes-from-3rd-july-2023
From that you'd think its 100% happening. Nothing about it not being fully confirmed.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

winston

Quote from: 2206 on June 24, 2023, 11:33:05 PMThey've already put a notice out on their website.
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/fare-and-ticket-changes-from-3rd-july-2023
From that you'd think its 100% happening. Nothing about it not being fully confirmed.
I'm aware, but notice the following:

£2.70 (To be confirmed) this was changed after the initial announcement & also the following appeared on the announcement & was then promptly taken down:

Did you know your ticket now gives you more?

Whilst some fares will be increasing, the changes mean you will have much more flexibility to travel on any bus, regardless of operator at any time, anywhere. The ticket range is also being simplified making it even easier to use the bus, especially for new customers.

This is why Diamond have held off announcing their fare rises in greater detail.

See Simon's post #3320 below:

https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=2074.3320

"There is an Enhanced Partnership vote next Tuesday, until then nothing is 100% certain"

karl724223

27/6/23 still nothing on nx buses about fare rise Sunday 
Diamond still not told there passengers yet 
No publicity from tfwm about one daysaver all operators ticket not very good is it 

Ginger66

Quote from: karl724223 on June 27, 2023, 02:38:41 PM27/6/23 still nothing on nx buses about fare rise Sunday
Diamond still not told there passengers yet
No publicity from tfwm about one daysaver all operators ticket not very good is it
I did see a poser on a NX bus earlier. But agree nothing on time day.


Coventrybususer95

The £2 single is staying till October 
All views are my own and does not represent the views of any company/ business that i maybe be working with

Kevin_Brum12

Quote from: Ginger66 on June 27, 2023, 03:45:41 PMI did see a poser on a NX bus earlier. But agree nothing on time day.


As we no, communication with users is not either NXWM's or TfWM's strong points.  After the kerfuffle about the fares revision, they might want to put a press release out, and the merging of the nBus and NXWM Day tickets and passes.  Yes some people will pay more, but others will get more bus for their buck particularly on corridors where there is more than operator, or NX run the weekday daytime service but "A N Other" run the evening or Sunday service.

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Quote from: Kevin_Brum12 on June 28, 2023, 06:58:06 PMAs we no, communication with users is not either NXWM's or TfWM's strong points.  After the kerfuffle about the fares revision, they might want to put a press release out, and the merging of the nBus and NXWM Day tickets and passes.  Yes some people will pay more, but others will get more bus for their buck particularly on corridors where there is more than operator, or NX run the weekday daytime service but "A N Other" run the evening or Sunday service.
There isn't really much of that left anyway. Claribels long gone from the 55/94/72 and no longer any of the other operators on the 11. So NX run nearly everything round here anyway.
Also if you wanted another operator, n bus has always existed anyway.

From the notice on 6117. I saw there was no mention of £1 concession ticket increasing on there, would have thought it would have been worth mentioning.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Rachvince53

While it's true that there is less competition than before, there are still routes with competition along at least part of the route eg the WN1 which is served by NX and partly by Let's Go. 

The problem is that the decision to continue the £2 fare was made too close to the start of the new prices for other tickets. Really at least two weeks notice should have been given including the merging of the NX daysaver with the nBus which many people won't know about until Monday.

Ginger66

Quote from: Rachvince53 on June 28, 2023, 08:24:31 PMWhile it's true that there is less competition than before, there are still routes with competition along at least part of the route eg the WN1 which is served by NX and partly by Let's Go.

The problem is that the decision to continue the £2 fare was made too close to the start of the new prices for other tickets. Really at least two weeks notice should have been given including the merging of the NX daysaver with the nBus which many people won't know about until Monday.
Agree theres no major competition to give NX a run for its money, we need Stagecoach to get routes in the heart of the black country and Brum.

Stu

Quote from: Ginger66 on June 28, 2023, 09:01:29 PMAgree theres no major competition to give NX a run for its money, we need Stagecoach to get routes in the heart of the black country and Brum.
That's probably the funniest thing I've read this week. I take it you've never actually used any of Stagecoach's services in Birmingham? :shocked:
My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

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MW

Quote from: Stu on June 28, 2023, 09:07:17 PMThat's probably the funniest thing I've read this week. I take it you've never actually used any of Stagecoach's services in Birmingham? :shocked:

Funnily enough a chunk of tenders have gone out today, including Diamond's 002/45/96, a new 25 service between Small Heath & Castle Vale & Landflight's A7/A8/A10, amongst other smaller services around the Black Country & Coventry. 

All to commence in October.

Will we see Stagecoach grab a larger share of the local tender market..?

2206

Quote from: MW on June 28, 2023, 09:14:00 PMFunnily enough a chunk of tenders have gone out today, including Diamond's 002/45/96, a new 25 service between Small Heath & Castle Vale & Landflight's A7/A8/A10, amongst other smaller services around the Black Country & Coventry.

All to commence in October.

Will we see Stagecoach grab a larger share of the local tender market..?
Does this 25 have anything to do with the Hodge Hill to Erdington 25?
Or just a confusing number duplication?
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

MW

Quote from: 2206 on June 28, 2023, 09:15:25 PMDoes this 25 have anything to do with the Hodge Hill to Erdington 25?
Or just a confusing number duplication?

Yes. The route appears to be extended and rerouted in some sections. Route description below, although there's a few different variants proposed so may be changed depending on bids/cost etc.

'From ASDA Small Heath (stop TBD): Heybarnes Road, Hob Moor Road, Yardley Green Road, Belchers Lane, Bordesley Green East, Stuarts Road, Albert Road, Frederick Road, Victoria Road, Station Road, Stetchford Lane, Bromford Lane, Brockhurst Road, Madison Avenue, Ventnor Avenue, Bromford Road, Collingbourne Avenue, Chipperfield Road, Bromford Drive, Bromford Road,  Bromford Lane, Fort Parkway, Fort Shopping Centre Internal Roads, Fort Parkway, Tangmere Drive, Yatesbury Avenue, Manby Road, Park Lane, Farnborough Road to Tangmere Drive (Farnborough Road Bus Stop).'

2206

Quote from: MW on June 28, 2023, 09:21:04 PMYes. The route appears to be extended and rerouted in some sections. Route description below, although there's a few different variants proposed so may be changed depending on bids/cost etc.

'From ASDA Small Heath (stop TBD): Heybarnes Road, Hob Moor Road, Yardley Green Road, Belchers Lane, Bordesley Green East, Stuarts Road, Albert Road, Frederick Road, Victoria Road, Station Road, Stetchford Lane, Bromford Lane, Brockhurst Road, Madison Avenue, Ventnor Avenue, Bromford Road, Collingbourne Avenue, Chipperfield Road, Bromford Drive, Bromford Road,  Bromford Lane, Fort Parkway, Fort Shopping Centre Internal Roads, Fort Parkway, Tangmere Drive, Yatesbury Avenue, Manby Road, Park Lane, Farnborough Road to Tangmere Drive (Farnborough Road Bus Stop).'
Interesting route. Looks like the old 24/28A/93 is coming back.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

MW

Quote from: 2206 on June 28, 2023, 09:23:02 PMInteresting route. Looks like the old 24/28A/93 is coming back.

There's also a version that from Heartlands proceeds to Yardley Swan instead of Small Heath ASDA.

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