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You never know lol, it'd be nice though wouldn't it.

What time was it? Is it just indoor or does it include where the Blythe Valley B6s were parked on the wall outside, and where the Geminis are parked outside, and the engineering building?

More like 1 in 10, most garage only have about 10% spares

Sorry 10% rather than 15%. Still, not all buses are not being used so they are available if another Garage requires. Also don't forget buses are also on the pits so not all vehicles are out.

I'd like to see AG operate them under contract next year. Would probably mean more Scanias annoyingly but it'd give them control in Solihull.

Remember the dart on the 1! Looked cute haha

If all buses are being used how can they be loaned

All buses aren't bein used. Out of around every 85 buses at a garage, 15 are not in use on average.

Wolverhampton are getting more new buses, Them hybrids should be placed on the 126 if there going anywere I dont see why they would be going on the 1 uless there single decker hybrid buses

The Hybrids would be useless on the 126. Hybrids are better for start stop traffic routes, so they run on electric more. At long distance or speed they use the engine, and therefore consumes more fuel. The 126 runs up Hagley Road & bits of Wolverhampton Road where it doesn't stop for a while, so they wouldn't prove to be too effective.

These hybrids are bought with government money and part of the bidding process would be new low carbon vehicles for routes that would not see investment at that time.

That's not strictly true. The government only pay about 80% of the difference in price between the standard bus and the hybrid, so an Enviro 400 hybrid is still more expensive to buy for the operator than a standard Enviro 400

Why is that then ??

The operator is anyway buying new buses. The funding is to encourage them to buy green buses.

Which i cannot see NXWM buying  ::), other than for the 1 in 2013

Huh, what you are talking about you blithering fool. What are the big green buses on the 22/23. What about the 21 for Wolverhampton. You can't see 21 Hybrids at Wolverhampton even though it's announced publically. You need to go to specsavers mate.

the 966 also has that

Blue Diamond don't operate the 966.  ::)

They've ripped of the AG blinds, so they now read 37 Solihull (filling the entire display) then changes to 37 Solihull Station with the 'via points' scrolling underneath, like the Scanias but without the scrolling of course. The Rotala displays are terrible though. They seem cheap, although that doesn't surprise me.

Notice also that the 'scroll' doesn't get to complete, before it flips back to '37 Solihull' or '37 Birmingham'?

I thought you were on all about all buses in general an VIP operate 966 eveings

& Blue Diamond 37 usally have paper stuck to the window with 37 on it as the LED's dont work

Im a regular on the 1/31/37 as I'm sure Stu is and I can say that I've never seen a broken LED on a 37 Dart, so obviously not regular.

VIP has nothing to do with this topic...

Yardley Wood had Presidents from new for the 6 actually. I believe they were replaced in 2002 by new Tridents.

Did they, I dont remeber ?

Probably was before you were born?

Wolverhampton are getting more new buses, Them hybrids should be placed on the 126 if there going anywere I dont see why they would be going on the 1 uless there single decker hybrid buses

The Hybrids would be useless on the 126. Hybrids are better for start stop traffic routes, so they run on electric more. At long distance or speed they use the engine, and therefore consumes more fuel. The 126 runs up Hagley Road & bits of Wolverhampton Road where it doesn't stop for a while, so they wouldn't prove to be too effective.

These hybrids are bought with government money and part of the bidding process would be new low carbon vehicles for routes that would not see investment at that time.

That's not strictly true. The government only pay about 80% of the difference in price between the standard bus and the hybrid, so an Enviro 400 hybrid is still more expensive to buy for the operator than a standard Enviro 400

Why is that then ??

The operator is anyway buying new buses. The funding is to encourage them to buy green buses.

If that happened then the Merc will have to run as an E journey as far into Birmingham as it can, or they might have to borrow another Scania from another garage if possible

So as far a Digbeth Coach Station, to be fair the only passangers they would loose is from Birmingham, Moor Street. or does Digbeth come under the new emmison becuase it would only be able to turn around at the Markets so either way it would get a fine if B'Ham markets comes under the new emmison if not then that would be an ideal place for service 17 to terminate if a merc operated on that route  ;D

So what if theres no buses that can go on loan ?

There are always buses available for loan. BC & BY appear to work together so I'm sure BY can borrow an Eclipses from BC if required.

Fair enough, but arnt all of BC gonna be used ????

Hence the word loan. Short term. Temporary.

A bit of topic but i remember when the 404 was first operated by omnilinks in 2009 they all entered service and there was a problem in bradford place and the buses were catching something ( i think thats the reason) and west brom has to borrow buses from all different garages just to cover i remember seeing omnilinks from perry barr, metrobuses from acocks green ( and they had not operated since 2007) and on the route were WB mercs,b6le, presidents basically any bus spare in the garage so around 19 buses had to be found so im sure with the emmission rules buses will be found if needed from other garages.

Yeah there was some sort of oil spillage I think. A lot of Perry Barr Scanias were on the 404.

If that happened then the Merc will have to run as an E journey as far into Birmingham as it can, or they might have to borrow another Scania from another garage if possible

So as far a Digbeth Coach Station, to be fair the only passangers they would loose is from Birmingham, Moor Street. or does Digbeth come under the new emmison becuase it would only be able to turn around at the Markets so either way it would get a fine if B'Ham markets comes under the new emmison if not then that would be an ideal place for service 17 to terminate if a merc operated on that route  ;D

So what if theres no buses that can go on loan ?

There are always buses available for loan. BC & BY appear to work together so I'm sure BY can borrow an Eclipses from BC if required.

Yardley Wood had Presidents from new for the 6 actually. I believe they were replaced in 2002 by new Tridents.

I'm not talking about just NXWM buses I'm talking about buses in general... 213/214, 208, 238, 141, 297, 123.

Even with the 3 NXWM routes, that's 6 buses an hour. With other services. That's 11 buses an hour

theres not many NXWM buses from cradley heath to Merry Hill only 238,141 as i can recall

What if you only have a NXWM bus pass ? therfore you only got 3 buses with all Half hourly service wich yes does create a quite frequent service

Buy a nbus then!