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Originally, I think there was 13 Presidents for the 451, and 12(?) for the 1. Not all were branded. I also recall 4033 refurbished and in the same New Travel West Midlands livery, but at Birmingham Central. It then moved to Acocks Green, after repaint.

I think they should do just this-maybe extra long wheelbase volvo b9tl/geminis like Lothian have as these are really smart looking buses and should be solidly built and reliable. These would help capacity problems on some routes.

But would they be able to cope with the tight turns on the Outer Circle? A little re-routing could easily fix the problem however.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mcw1987/5261788688/in/photostream/

Everything in that is no longer. Walsall Road Tridents debranded. Two Lynxe's withdrawn. Metrobuses gone. Gemini in a terrible livery now.

All types of tridents operate the 900, including 46**

I'm sure the 46** no longer operate the 900, or they didn't briefly because the gearboxes were damaged from a speed bump at the Airport. It was known to crack the gearboxes only in the 46** Tridents.

or they didn't briefly

There was a time when they didn't for a while like I said.

I have noticed this with blue diamond, a dennis dart, I assume had a broken front dot-matrix display and so I piece of paper displaying the route number was put at the bottom of the windscreen.

Also, this picture may intrigue you:-
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4527.html

Where do you actually live as you seem to think you know more about other peoples local services. I'm a regular on the 37 and I've never seen this.

I'm actully unsure if you actully pay attention to buses ::), SOME Blue Diamond buses have paper on the window, END OFF

Please do not tell me about broken displays. I know they happen. I just haven't seen any on the 37 which brings me back to the original point where Nathan said they are regularly broken which they are obviously not. I use the service every day so don't tell me what's what with my own local service!

Taxis are allowed in Solihull town centre, otherwise why is there a taxi rank next to the 37 stop?  ::)

Where on Earth have these new members turned up from! There's a few of them now who could do with a brain transplant.

I use the 37 around four times a day and have never seen this. It's not 'end off' Nathan. We all have a Caps Lock In case you didn't know, and most likely you didn't.

AG use their initiative and have a lot of vehicles terminating in Solihull to run as 37Es back to Acocks Green.

[but no, let's throw some more buses onto the Sutton - Birmingham road to run behind each other virtually empty]

Running the 71A, combined with the changes that had to be made to the 66 and 966, and the resulting overcrowding of the 451 between Oscott and Sutton have probably created cost not too far short of running the 68, which I feel could have been rescued with some frequency and route alterations...but no, let's throw some more buses onto the Sutton - Birmingham road to run behind each other virtually empty.....

Andy posted this on another thread and it rather chimed in with something I was going to post anyway - is the 915 (Birmingham - expressway - Sutton - Falcon Lodge) really necessary?

The route is duplicated by others with high frequency virtually throughout, except for a small stretch in Falcon Lodge estate.

Falcon Lodge already has two links to central Birmingham which arguably are more direct - the 914 (via Expressway) and 115 (through Aston) which give a combined 15m frequency, and it also linked to Sutton via Good Hope by Blue Diamond's 119 (amongst others) again on a 15m frequency.

So is there really any need for the 915?

And are there any other routes you can think of that are effectively "overkill"?

The 914 doesnt serve erdington & the 115 take upto 40 mins to get to Falcon Lodge were as the 915 takes upto 20/25 minutes, quite a few people would miss out onm the 915, plus the 914 & 915 dont serve the same roads in Falcon Lodge neither

He didn't say the 914 went through Erdington. Will you read the post properley next time as it saves a lot of hassle!

Worth noting that there has been a Rotala support car patrolling Solihull Town Centre for the last two weeks. It got fined for driving through the bus only area lmao!

Leaving 4517-4521 & 4529 at AG which I assume will move eventually with the recent block fleet changes we've been having. The Presidents suit AG better than BC I think personally and do look very smart, but I feel an overkill of Presidents at AG is soon approaching. Any idea if AG will lose any of 4635-4679 which could do with a refurb!

There's a Scania on the 1 today working the usual Eclipse board, so the 71/72 must be all Eclipse today. There is still a second Eclipse on the 1 as usual. Like I said before their arrival, 23 Eclipses is too much for the 71 & 72 and instead replaced everything previously B10 operated, so it's just a matter of time before one appears on the 31. :)

BC is more than capable to operate the Dudley Road corridor if it came to it.

[but no, let's throw some more buses onto the Sutton - Birmingham road to run behind each other virtually empty]

Running the 71A, combined with the changes that had to be made to the 66 and 966, and the resulting overcrowding of the 451 between Oscott and Sutton have probably created cost not too far short of running the 68, which I feel could have been rescued with some frequency and route alterations...but no, let's throw some more buses onto the Sutton - Birmingham road to run behind each other virtually empty.....

Andy posted this on another thread and it rather chimed in with something I was going to post anyway - is the 915 (Birmingham - expressway - Sutton - Falcon Lodge) really necessary?

The route is duplicated by others with high frequency virtually throughout, except for a small stretch in Falcon Lodge estate.

Falcon Lodge already has two links to central Birmingham which arguably are more direct - the 914 (via Expressway) and 115 (through Aston) which give a combined 15m frequency, and it also linked to Sutton via Good Hope by Blue Diamond's 119 (amongst others) again on a 15m frequency.

So is there really any need for the 915?

And are there any other routes you can think of that are effectively "overkill"?

Of course there is a need. These 9** routes operate a high joint frequency up to Sutton, then a 30 minute frequency (I think) to the surrounding areas, so they have a link with Sutton Coldfield Centre, as well as Birmingham.

Thanks for uploading!

Thanks, it's actually before Lea Hall closed so that's why there are B7TL ALX400s and Enviro 400s :)