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West Midlands Buses in Discussion => National Express West Midlands => Topic started by: Tony on September 20, 2012, 07:42:53 PM

Title: Tram 09
Post by: Tony on September 20, 2012, 07:42:53 PM
Photo of Tram 09 with its new digital destination display
http://wmbusphotos.com/MidlandMetro/tram09.html
also because of the angle of the photo it looks like it has e new treble electricity collection method as well as the pantograph!
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 21, 2012, 01:02:16 PM
Has this been fitted with LED lights as they have been changed since the earlier pic?
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: JackC on September 21, 2012, 01:33:33 PM
All trams have been fitted with LED lights as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: vinh1000 on October 31, 2012, 05:43:31 PM
Quote from: thetruth on October 31, 2012, 01:45:45 PM
Tram 9 also has had new destination displays internally and a different voice announcement.

The conductors had new ticket machines today.
new?
are they much better to the old ones?
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: Ash on February 25, 2013, 06:56:22 PM
I've noticed tram 10 has also had the same treatment to tram 9 not sure I like the new announcements it seemed a bit quiet on a few stops.
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: windy miller on March 06, 2013, 02:22:32 PM
With the 'extra' pantograph fitments that 'appeared' on tram 09... see tonys photo,  (Sep).....  I think my photo (3rd March) of unit 168 109 at Moor street appears to have a new rooftop lighting arrangement! :)
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: bwsau cymru on May 08, 2013, 12:48:39 AM
Tram 6 has been refurbished too
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: Ash on May 08, 2013, 03:14:34 PM
All the trams seem to have been re-trimmed into the new NX grey seating covers with all of them having the new internal announcements and most with the new electronic displays.
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: Sh4318 on May 09, 2013, 12:46:20 AM
Is there much point refurbing them now? Aren't the Urbos trams coming next year?
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: Stu on May 09, 2013, 06:41:43 PM
They'll be selling off the older trams when the new ones come, maybe this will improve their resale value.
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on May 09, 2013, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 09, 2013, 06:41:43 PM
They'll be selling off the older trams when the new ones come, maybe this will improve their resale value.

i thought that the older trams would be working alongside the new trams to give an increased service frequency?
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: Ash on May 09, 2013, 08:38:41 PM
That's what i thought some were being kept to be used alongside the new vehicles.
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: John on May 09, 2013, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 09, 2013, 08:38:41 PM
That's what i thought some were being kept to be used alongside the new vehicles.

I'm sure that there are 20 of the new trams been built to replace the 15? older ones still in service.
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: JackC on May 09, 2013, 10:24:37 PM
If the old trams do stay in service running alongside the new ones then I'd imagine the old ones wouldn't be able to run the full route to New Street as it's my understanding that the old ones can't manage the near right angle corner on Stephenson Street?
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on May 11, 2013, 12:17:07 PM
From a Centro press release after the Metro reopened after Easter and i quote

"Every platform along the route from Birmingham Snow Hill to Wolverhampton has been narrowed by approximately 100mm to accommodate a £40 million fleet of new and bigger trams.

The work means both the old and new trams will be able to operate along the route."
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: Stu on May 11, 2013, 05:50:42 PM
The older trams will all eventually be replaced by newer ones, I think it would be very difficult logistically to replace them all in one go, so of course as new ones arrive and enter service, the older type will be gradually withdrawn. I'm sure that's what I read elsewhere, with the older trams being sold off to other operators, possibly in Europe.
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: uniquicity on May 11, 2013, 06:13:18 PM
Read somewhere the older ones were being kept for the potential new Wednesbury to Merry Hill line.
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: Gareth on May 12, 2013, 04:25:06 PM
By the time that's built the old trams will have rusted away into dust!
Title: Re: Tram 09
Post by: Kevin on May 12, 2013, 08:24:48 PM
Quote from: Gareth on May 12, 2013, 04:25:06 PM
By the time that's built the old trams will have rusted away into dust!

And merry Hill will have closed, everyone will be doing every bit of shopping online and gets it all zapped to them... etc etc...