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Title: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on January 22, 2025, 12:34:02 PM
Starting list for a 2025 thread.

AG: 2174; 4492; 4495; 4496; 4651; 4656; 6106; 6115; 6124; 6128; 6148;
BC: 4848; 4874; 4912; 4917; 5502; 5512; 5518; 6858; 7530
CV: E058; E072; E080; E091; 2157
PB: 752; 1900; 1953; E165; E176; E211; E215; E219; E325; E329
PN: 824; 2094; 2098; 4754; 6933
WA: 2119; 2129; 2134; 6717
WB: 4481; 4486; 4688; 4692; 4694; 4951; 6961
WN: 835; 845; 847; 2001; 2012; 2018; 2022; 2024; 2025; 2079; 2080; 4862; 5414; 6762; 6780; 6788
YW: 4724; 4727; E006; E269
Those crossed through are VoR as I type.

71 as at now, so still dropping
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Ingleboro261F on January 22, 2025, 01:19:19 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2025, 12:34:02 PMStarting list for a 2025 thread.

AG: 2174; 4492; 4495; 4496; 4651; 4656; 6106; 6115; 6124; 6128; 6148;
BC: 4848; 4874; 4912; 4917; 5502; 5512; 5518; 6858; 7530
CV: E058; E072; E080; E091; 2157
PB: 752; 1900; 1953; E165; E176; E211; E215; E219; E325; E329
PN: 824; 2094; 2098; 4754; 6933
WA: 2119; 2129; 2134; 6717
WB: 4481; 4486; 4688; 4692; 4694; 4951; 6961
WN: 835; 845; 847; 2001; 2012; 2018; 2022; 2024; 2025; 2079; 2080; 4862; 5414; 6762; 6780; 6788
YW: 4724; 4727; E006; E269
Those crossed through are VoR as I type.

71 as at now, so still dropping
2174 is VOR
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on January 22, 2025, 01:22:30 PM
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on January 22, 2025, 01:19:19 PM2174 is VOR
No it isn't. Currently in service at the Wheatsheaf

How would you know?
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Ingleboro261F on January 22, 2025, 01:25:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2025, 01:22:30 PMNo it isn't. Currently in service at the Wheatsheaf

How would you know?
I'm such an idiot I thought it meant On read not off road
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: MSU2008 on January 22, 2025, 03:36:21 PM
4951 can be taken off the list currently on the 74 nvm its still not tracking properly
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on January 22, 2025, 04:51:38 PM
Quote from: MSU2008 on January 22, 2025, 03:36:21 PM4951 can be taken off the list currently on the 74 nvm its still not tracking properly
So it can't be taken off the list yhen
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: MSU2008 on January 22, 2025, 05:29:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2025, 04:51:38 PMSo it can't be taken off the list yhen
It was tracking correctly at 1st when heading towards Birmingham but that changed after it decided to head towards Dudley 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on January 22, 2025, 05:40:32 PM
Quote from: MSU2008 on January 22, 2025, 05:29:45 PMIt was tracking correctly at 1st when heading towards Birmingham but that changed after it decided to head towards Dudley
No it wasn't. It hasn't tracked properly once. You can see that on the history. The only journey showing is 3 hours late 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: WrightStreetlite431 on January 22, 2025, 08:41:15 PM
so 16 buses for us , yikes!
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Mayfield on January 22, 2025, 11:01:01 PM
What about H1008
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on January 23, 2025, 07:48:19 AM
Quote from: Mayfield on January 22, 2025, 11:01:01 PMWhat about H1008
We've changed the ticket kit on the not tracking ones, so now wait until they are next used to see if they track. H1014 one of the troublesome ones is tracking today
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on January 23, 2025, 11:02:55 AM
2157 hasn't tracked in almost a year
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on January 24, 2025, 11:41:02 AM
One of the longest on this list is tracking properly today, exactly a year after it first started being a problem.

E058.

Just 4 at CV today unless anyone knows differently
2157, E080, E091 & E276
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: MSU2008 on January 24, 2025, 05:26:47 PM
4847 tracker is going a bit crazy showing currently as if it is in Derby
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Wm2001 on January 24, 2025, 07:09:57 PM
4847 is currently tracking in hodge hill i don't know where you get this duff information from
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on January 24, 2025, 07:19:47 PM
Quote from: Wm2001 on January 24, 2025, 07:09:57 PM4847 is currently tracking in hodge hill i don't know where you get this duff information from
It did have a couple of GPS problems earlier, you can see them if you look at the histories of Bustimes
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Stu on January 24, 2025, 07:47:07 PM
Quote from: Wm2001 on January 24, 2025, 07:09:57 PM4847 is currently tracking in hodge hill i don't know where you get this duff information from
It's not duff information though. If you actually look on BusTimes you'll see there was some kind of GPS location reporting issue earlier:
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-pb-4847#journeys/677593059

But it then seems to have resolved itself.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: KC on January 25, 2025, 04:14:38 PM
E058's tracker seems to be stuck yet again
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Stu on January 28, 2025, 10:33:42 AM
E233 is out on the 50, but is tracking as 6:
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-e233#journeys/678914098
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: MSU2008 on January 28, 2025, 04:36:08 PM
6991 is back to having tracking issues again currently on the 82 but showing as the 87
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Secondary trigger 28 on January 31, 2025, 05:31:42 PM
4906 is not tracking on the 94/95
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Danthebusman on February 01, 2025, 09:40:24 AM
E023 not tracking on 17s.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on February 04, 2025, 12:52:08 PM
As at 4/2/25

AG: 2174; 4492; 4495; 4496; 4651; 4656; 6106; 6115; 6124; 6128; 6148;
BC: 4848; 4874; 4906; 4912; 4917; 5502; 5512; 5518; 6858; 7521; 7530; 7532
CV: E023; E080; E091; E276; 844; 2157
PB: 752; E176; E215; E219; E325; E329
PN: 824; 828; 2094; 2098; 4754; 6933
WA: 2119; 2129; 2134; 6717; 6748
WB: 2237; 4481; 4486; 4688; 4692; 4694; 4951; 6961; 6982; 6991
WN: 835; 847; 2001; 2002; 2012; 2022; 2024; 2025; 2079; 2080; 4862; 5414; 6762; 6780; 6788
YW: 1793; 4729; E269
Those crossed through are VoR as I type.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on February 04, 2025, 04:36:53 PM
E154 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Ingleboro261F on February 04, 2025, 05:22:57 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2025, 12:52:08 PMAs at 4/2/25

AG: 2174; 4492; 4495; 4496; 4651; 4656; 6106; 6115; 6124; 6128; 6148;
BC: 4848; 4874; 4906; 4912; 4917; 5502; 5512; 5518; 6858; 7521; 7530; 7532
CV: E023; E080; E091; E276; 844; 2157
PB: 752; E176; E215; E219; E325; E329
PN: 824; 828; 2094; 2098; 4754; 6933
WA: 2119; 2129; 2134; 6717; 6748
WB: 2237; 4481; 4486; 4688; 4692; 4694; 4951; 6961; 6982; 6991
WN: 835; 847; 2001; 2002; 2012; 2022; 2024; 2025; 2079; 2080; 4862; 5414; 6762; 6780; 6788
YW: 1793; 4729; E269
Those crossed through are VoR as I type.
4656 isn't VOR unless it's a mistrack on bus times
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on February 04, 2025, 05:40:37 PM
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on February 04, 2025, 05:22:57 PM4656 isn't VOR unless it's a mistrack on bus times
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on February 04, 2025, 05:22:57 PM4656 isn't VOR unless it's a mistrack on bus times
It was off the road at 12:52 when I typed that with a seized alternator
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: WrightStreetlite431 on February 05, 2025, 09:47:38 PM
Walsall 1854 was doing something odd earlier it wasn't tracking on the map at the time then about an hour or so after , the trip information appeared even though it didn't track at the time , but , on the mid morn trips , it's missed a lot of the route out anyway .  :huh:
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Lukeee on February 05, 2025, 10:30:08 PM
Quote from: WrightStreetlite431 on February 05, 2025, 09:47:38 PMWalsall 1854 was doing something odd earlier it wasn't tracking on the map at the time then about an hour or so after , the trip information appeared even though it didn't track at the time , but , on the mid morn trips , it's missed a lot of the route out anyway .  :huh:
It could of just been the tracking playing up rather than missing a lot of the route
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: WrightStreetlite431 on February 05, 2025, 10:54:51 PM
Quote from: Lukeee on February 05, 2025, 10:30:08 PMIt could of just been the tracking playing up rather than missing a lot of the route

Ye , I was on it earlier , it was running it just day record the trips properly
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: MSU2008 on February 06, 2025, 10:28:35 AM
4768 currently not tracking currently on the 48A towards West Brom 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Secondary trigger 28 on February 07, 2025, 08:35:37 AM
6855 is not tracking on the 60
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on February 07, 2025, 12:05:30 PM
Two of the longest not tracking buses have been fixed this morning.
6762 which hasn't tracked since  20/11/2023
6961 which hasn't tracked since  18/09/2023

Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on February 07, 2025, 01:31:00 PM
Quote from: Secondary trigger 28 on February 07, 2025, 08:35:37 AM6855 is not tracking on the 60
Reported and now fixed
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Rob H on February 08, 2025, 06:59:03 AM
6866 currently not tracking on the X12

Update; It's now tracking sorry for the post
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: MSU2008 on February 09, 2025, 02:39:13 PM
4744 was not tracking yesterday on the 74
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on February 10, 2025, 01:16:25 PM
10/2/25
I believe there's 64 buses in service today not tracking. The full list of those on the list for repair are below, those crossed through are currently VoR

AG: 2174; 4492; 4495; 4496; 4651; 6106; 6115; 6124; 6128; 6148
BC: 4848; 4874; 4906; 4912; 4917; 5502; 5512; 5518; 6858; 7521; 7530; 7532
CV: 844; 2157; E080; E091; E271
PB: 752; 1864; E176; E215; E219; E230; E325; E329
PN: 824; 826; 828; 2094; 2098; 4754; 6933
WA: 1883; 2119; 2129; 2134; 6717; 6748
WB: 4481; 4486; 4688; 4692; 4694; 4744; 4951; 6812; 6982
WN: 835; 847; 2001; 2002; 2012; 2018; 2022; 2024; 2025; 2079; 2080; 4862; 5414; 5415; 6780; 6788; 6790
YW: E269
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: dw1308 on February 10, 2025, 11:21:48 PM
5506 was not tracking on the 45/47 when I was driving it this morning 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on February 12, 2025, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: dw1308 on February 10, 2025, 11:21:48 PM5506 was not tracking on the 45/47 when I was driving it this morning
It's tracked correctly the last two days without me reporting it, so seems to have fixed itself
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: timuk1987 on February 13, 2025, 08:21:10 AM
4729 not tracking again, on the 35 this morning.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Rachvince53 on February 17, 2025, 05:44:52 PM
No buses are currently tracking on WN service 1 and last did so at 0925 this morning.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: ellspurs on February 17, 2025, 05:51:18 PM
See the bustimes thread. There's no NXWM/NXC vehicles tracking at the moment because of an IT hiccup somewhere.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on February 17, 2025, 06:10:44 PM
Problem at Traffilog has just been solved, vehicles will start tracking again
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Wm2001 on February 19, 2025, 04:08:26 PM
7511 not tracking on the 72
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: MSU2008 on February 25, 2025, 10:50:24 AM
4744 currently not tracking on the 12 towards Birmingham 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on February 25, 2025, 11:52:23 AM
Quote from: MSU2008 on February 25, 2025, 10:50:24 AM4744 currently not tracking on the 12 towards Birmingham
On the last full list I posted
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: MSU2008 on February 25, 2025, 02:09:58 PM
My bad 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: busboydan on February 25, 2025, 05:16:24 PM
4873 not tracking on 14
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: windy miller on February 25, 2025, 06:40:13 PM
    is there any news of the ex YW  E276 which is/was transferred to CV??  Is it in service ?
    as I can find no recorded use so far
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on February 25, 2025, 06:41:07 PM
Quote from: windy miller on February 25, 2025, 06:40:13 PMis there any news of the ex YW  E276 which is/was transferred to CV??  Is it in service ?
    as I can find no recorded use so far
Yes, In daily use at Coventry at the moment
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: windy miller on February 25, 2025, 06:42:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 25, 2025, 06:41:07 PMYes, In daily use at Coventry at the moment
thanks  appreciated
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on February 25, 2025, 08:25:35 PM
Another long time non-tracker is working today, 4848
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: a4 funcool 2022 on February 26, 2025, 04:06:05 PM
6786 not tracking on 8 X8
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: JahiemOnABus on February 26, 2025, 11:04:17 PM
1835 not tracking was on the 12s today 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Secondary trigger 28 on February 27, 2025, 11:45:57 AM
6855 has losts  its tracking again  currently  on the X2
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Wm2001 on February 27, 2025, 03:10:42 PM
6881 not tracking on X12
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: MSU2008 on February 27, 2025, 04:58:53 PM
6991 has gone back to tracking issues again been alright for the past couple of days but has gone back to the same issue 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on February 27, 2025, 06:55:07 PM
Another of the very long time non-trackers working tonight is 6717, not tracked since 2023.

This one may be of more interest than others as it is currently unique livery wise
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: MSU2008 on February 28, 2025, 08:21:06 AM
6814 same tracking issue as 6991 currently tracking as the 5 when on the 82/87
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: PB50 on February 28, 2025, 02:13:29 PM
4631 not tracking on the 29.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on February 28, 2025, 06:28:39 PM
Three more long term ones off the list, 2001, 2012 & 2080. 2080 is another that last tracked in 2023
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 02, 2025, 12:53:40 PM
Another long term one working today which may be of interest is 6148, the BCT liveried bus
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 03, 2025, 01:45:53 PM
Vehicles on report as at 3/3/25
Those crossed through are currently VoR.
Numbers still dropping

AG: 2174; 4492; 4495; 6106; 6121; 6128; 7511
BC: 4848; 4873; 4874; 4892; 4917; 5518; 6826; 6870
CV: 2157; E058; E080; E091; E145; E276
PB: 752; E172; E176; E201; E215; E216; E219; E220; E325; E329
PN: 824; 826; 828; 2094; 2098; 6923; 6933
WA: 808; 1883; 1884; 4631; 6748
WB: 1835; 4481; 4486; 4688; 4692; 4694; 4773; 4951; 6812; 6982; 6991
WN: 761; 2024; 2025; 2079; 4862; 5414; 6780; 6788
YW: E248; E269
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: busboydan on March 03, 2025, 06:52:02 PM
4906 not tracking on 14
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: MSU2008 on March 04, 2025, 10:29:46 AM
6811 same tracking issue as 6991
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 04, 2025, 12:49:20 PM
Quote from: MSU2008 on March 04, 2025, 10:29:46 AM6811 same tracking issue as 6991
Seems to have cured itself before I had chance to report it
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Ingleboro261F on March 05, 2025, 11:43:55 AM
4651 (The other BCT liveried bus at AG) is another long term not tracking now tracking.

Been tracking since 3rd march now.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 05, 2025, 05:24:03 PM
The two longest non-trackers have been fixed today WA2129 & 2134, along with another that hasn't tracked for 8 months BC 5512
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: busboydan on March 05, 2025, 06:32:07 PM
4936 not tracking on 14
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 05, 2025, 06:48:21 PM
Quote from: busboydan on March 05, 2025, 06:32:07 PM4936 not tracking on 14
It's in the list above. No need to mention any on the list again
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on March 06, 2025, 05:59:04 PM
There is a Walsall Trident Not Tracking to as I saw one on On the 34 yesterday I've forgotten the Fleet Number 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 06, 2025, 06:07:01 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on March 06, 2025, 05:59:04 PMThere is a Walsall Trident Not Tracking to as I saw one on On the 34 yesterday I've forgotten the Fleet Number
You mean the one on the list above!
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 06, 2025, 06:40:13 PM
Hopefully another that hasn't tracked for nearly a year can come off tomorrow.
CV2157 has just woken up
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Secondary trigger 28 on March 07, 2025, 08:23:32 AM
6870 has stopped tracking  on the X2
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on March 07, 2025, 10:39:59 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 06, 2025, 06:07:01 PMYou mean the one on the list above!
Oh Didn't see that one
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 07, 2025, 12:16:23 PM
2119 has just been woken up after 6 months, so all Walsall B7RLEs are tracking for the first time for ages.
4496 is also now tracking after 10 months.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 07, 2025, 05:47:10 PM
Another not tracking for so long it has no history at all on Bustimes. 5502 has just come out of garage on the 60.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: adambotee on March 07, 2025, 08:18:56 PM
2025 started tracking again at the start of the week but now its not tracking again. Saw it in service today 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 07, 2025, 08:57:41 PM
Updated list for new page

AG: 2174; 4492; 4495; 6106; 6121; 6128; 7511
BC: 4848; 4873; 4874; 4892; 4917; 5518; 6826; 6870
CV: 2157; E058; E080; E091; E145; E276
PB: 752; E172; E176; E201; E215; E216; E219; E220; E325; E329
PN: 824; 826; 828; 2094; 2098; 6923; 6933
WA: 808; 1883; 1884; 4631; 6748
WB: 1835; 4481; 4486; 4688; 4692; 4694; 4773; 4951; 6812; 6982; 6991
WN: 761; 2024; 2025; 2079; 4862; 5414; 6780; 6788
YW: E248; E269
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tridentobt on March 08, 2025, 06:59:40 PM
And 4724 for yardley wood
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: busboydan on March 11, 2025, 05:32:14 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 07, 2025, 08:57:41 PMUpdated list for new page

AG: 2174; 4492; 4495; 6106; 6121; 6128; 7511
BC: 4848; 4873; 4874; 4892; 4917; 5518; 6826; 6870
CV: 2157; E058; E080; E091; E145; E276
PB: 752; E172; E176; E201; E215; E216; E219; E220; E325; E329
PN: 824; 826; 828; 2094; 2098; 6923; 6933
WA: 808; 1883; 1884; 4631; 6748
WB: 1835; 4481; 4486; 4688; 4692; 4694; 4773; 4951; 6812; 6982; 6991
WN: 761; 2024; 2025; 2079; 4862; 5414; 6780; 6788
YW: E248; E269
4906 again not tracking on 14. Noticed that this one has been fluctuating recently. 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Danthebusman on March 11, 2025, 08:45:45 PM
E122 not tracking properly on 17/A.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: a4 funcool 2022 on March 12, 2025, 07:31:16 AM
6924 in service today on the 9 now in price branding not tracking
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: frostjay974 on March 12, 2025, 05:29:02 PM
817 not tracking on 12A. 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: a4 funcool 2022 on March 13, 2025, 08:08:42 AM
2005 not tracking on 16
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 13, 2025, 05:59:26 PM
Total numbers isn't dropping much this week, but more of the ones that haven't tracked for a year are being fixed,
As well as 4874 mentioned on the BC thread, WB 4486 is also tracking for the first time for 11 months
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 14, 2025, 02:58:16 PM
List as at 14/3/25
AG: 2174; 4495; 6106; 6115; 6124; 6128; 6148; 7511
BC: 4848; 4892; 4906; 4917; 6826; 6855; 7530
CV: 2157; E058; E071; E072; E080; E086; E091; E145; E154; E276
PB: 752; 1829; E176; E201l E215; E216; E219; E227; E311; E325; E329
PN: 801; 824; 826; 828; 2094; 2098; 6923; 6933
WA: 1883; 1884; 4631; 6726; 6748
WB: 1835; 4481; 4688; 4692; 4694; 4773; 4951; 6991
WN: 838; 847; 2005; 2018; 2024; 2025; 2079; 4862; 5414; 6780; 6788
YW: E248; E269
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: karl724223 on March 14, 2025, 03:32:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 14, 2025, 02:58:16 PMList as at 14/3/25
AG: 2174; 4495; 6106; 6115; 6124; 6128; 6148; 7511
BC: 4848; 4892; 4906; 4917; 6826; 6855; 7530
CV: 2157; E058; E071; E072; E080; E086; E091; E145; E154; E276
PB: 752; 1829; E176; E201l E215; E216; E219; E227; E311; E325; E329
PN: 801; 824; 826; 828; 2094; 2098; 6923; 6933
WA: 1883; 1884; 4631; 6726; 6748
WB: 1835; 4481; 4688; 4692; 4694; 4773; 4951; 6991
WN: 838; 847; 2005; 2018; 2024; 2025; 2079; 4862; 5414; 6780; 6788
YW: E248; E269
Pn 6919 my bus today not twackin
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Cheese on March 14, 2025, 04:21:12 PM
YW 4586 not tracking today, was on the 49 0940 from Solihull, seen in Cotteridge around half 10 this morning
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Ingleboro261F on March 14, 2025, 04:27:00 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 14, 2025, 02:58:16 PMList as at 14/3/25
AG: 2174; 4495; 6106; 6115; 6124; 6128; 6148; 7511
BC: 4848; 4892; 4906; 4917; 6826; 6855; 7530
CV: 2157; E058; E071; E072; E080; E086; E091; E145; E154; E276
PB: 752; 1829; E176; E201l E215; E216; E219; E227; E311; E325; E329
PN: 801; 824; 826; 828; 2094; 2098; 6923; 6933
WA: 1883; 1884; 4631; 6726; 6748
WB: 1835; 4481; 4688; 4692; 4694; 4773; 4951; 6991
WN: 838; 847; 2005; 2018; 2024; 2025; 2079; 4862; 5414; 6780; 6788
YW: E248; E269
Is 4492 meant to be on the list too?
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 14, 2025, 05:08:46 PM
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on March 14, 2025, 04:27:00 PMIs 4492 meant to be on the list too?
No because it is in the garage needing a replacement engine, which it may get in a couple of weeks time
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 17, 2025, 10:29:37 AM
Another bus that hasn't tracked for a year is back working this morning WN 2079. WN 847 which hadn't tracked this year is also working again
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 17, 2025, 02:16:08 PM
Currently on report to the company that provides the tracking kit are:-

AG: 2174; 4495; 6106; 6115; 6124; 6128; 6148; 7511
BC: 4848; 4892; 4906; 4917; 6826; 6855; 6870; 7530
CV: 2157; E058; E072; E080; E091; E145; E154; E276
PB: 752; 1829; 1893; E168; E172; E176; E201; E215; E219; E227; E325; E329
PN: 801; 824; 828; 2094; 2098; 6919; 6923; 6933
WA: 806; 1883; 1884; 6748
WB: 1835; 4481; 4688; 4692; 4694; 4773; 4951; 6991
WN: 761; 838; 2018; 2024; 4862; 5414; 6780; 6788; 6795
YW: E248; E269

Also on the list, but are currently longer term VoR and will hopefully work when next used
4492; 5518; 6812; H1003; H1005; H1008.
5518 is being presented for MoT this week, It's location is now tracking properly, so hopefully route data will when it is used next.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: MSU2008 on March 17, 2025, 06:50:00 PM
2085 looks like it is suffering the same issue as 6991 whilst on the X8
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 17, 2025, 07:00:42 PM
Quote from: MSU2008 on March 17, 2025, 06:50:00 PM2085 looks like it is suffering the same issue as 6991 whilst on the X8
No, It's showing the correct running board and route, just hasn't updated the journey
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: a4 funcool 2022 on March 18, 2025, 01:45:36 PM
Pensnett heritage 2102 not tracking 
Stopped tracking since 06:59/07:00 while seen in Dudley at 13:40 on 11 11A
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: PB50 on March 19, 2025, 02:35:25 PM
3302 currently not tracking on the 10 service. Sorry it had only just come out so it's tracking.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 20, 2025, 10:04:35 AM
A couple more of the long term ones are now tracking, so the ones I know of not tracking today are

AG: 2174; 4495; 6115; 6124; 6128; 6148; 7506; 7511
BC: 4848; 4906; 4917; 6826; 6852; 6858
CV: 2157; E058; E080; E145; E276
PB: E168; E172; E176; E198; E201; E215; E219; E227; E325; E329
PN: 801; 824; 828; 2094; 2098; 6923; 6924; 6933
WA: 806; 1884
WB: 4481; 4688; 4692; 4694; 4773; 4951; 6991
WN: 761; 838; 2018; 2069; 4862; 6780; 6788; 6795
YW: E248; E269

57 vehicles in total, the lowest for several months and hopefully still dropping
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: adambotee on March 20, 2025, 11:30:57 AM
Might end up being in the wrong thread but the tracking on 2069 is very hit and miss. For example - it's on the 6 route today and the tracker is stuck in Bloxwich. Tracker commonly gets stuck with this bus
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 20, 2025, 01:47:15 PM
Quote from: adambotee on March 20, 2025, 11:30:57 AMMight end up being in the wrong thread but the tracking on 2069 is very hit and miss. For example - it's on the 6 route today and the tracker is stuck in Bloxwich. Tracker commonly gets stuck with this bus
This is the correct thread.

Thanks for that, it's not something easily spotable, but I have reported it for fixing now
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: MSU2008 on March 20, 2025, 05:17:43 PM
WN 2009 has the same issue, the correct board times etc. but the location does not update.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: adambotee on March 20, 2025, 06:06:10 PM
2005 also has the same problem. Location tracking is hit and miss

Update: 2005 not tracking at all now
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: timuk1987 on March 21, 2025, 05:55:32 PM
4586 not tracking on the 49
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Fred on March 22, 2025, 03:23:45 PM
6961 not tracking. On 48.

I wonder why NXWM has such a big problem with this quite basic requirement when the likes of First, Go Ahead, Arriva, Stagecoach have very few issues.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Wm2001 on March 22, 2025, 04:25:24 PM
6105 has stopped tracking on the 72 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Stu on March 22, 2025, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: Fred on March 22, 2025, 03:23:45 PM6961 not tracking. On 48.

I wonder why NXWM has such a big problem with this quite basic requirement when the likes of First, Go Ahead, Arriva, Stagecoach have very few issues.
In the case of NX, I believe it doesn't help when they have 2 or 3 systems linked together to provide the tracking/journey data, which means it just needs one of them to fail or stop responding/transmitting that causes this problem.

Other operators do have issues with buses that don't track (I've had this before with Stagecoach's 169 service), but there is no mechanism for reporting them in this forum in order for action to be taken.

While it is a problem, it is not a 'big problem' - in the grand scheme of things, at Tony's last count there were 57 vehicles with tracking defects, which sounds a lot, but in a fleet of over 1400 buses, that's just 4% of them.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 22, 2025, 07:17:06 PM
Quote from: Stu on March 22, 2025, 06:41:50 PMIn the case of NX, I believe it doesn't help when they have 2 or 3 systems linked together to provide the tracking/journey data, which means it just needs one of them to fail or stop responding/transmitting that causes this problem.

Other operators do have issues with buses that don't track (I've had this before with Stagecoach's 169 service), but there is no mechanism for reporting them in this forum in order for action to be taken.

While it is a problem, it is not a 'big problem' - in the grand scheme of things, at Tony's last count there were 57 vehicles with tracking defects, which sounds a lot, but in a fleet of over 1400 buses, that's just 4% of them.
In Friday we had the number actually in service down to 49.

One of the central engineering Electricians has been at Pensnett this morning sorting out wiring problems on 801, 828, 2098 and 6933. Traffilog will hopefully be able to reset them on Monday to make them work. 2098 and 6933 won't track though as both are currently VoR
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Danthebusman on March 23, 2025, 05:02:09 PM
E163 not tracking properly, showing as on 17 when it's actually on 5/As and 16s.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Rachvince53 on March 23, 2025, 08:43:33 PM
Quote from: Stu on March 22, 2025, 06:41:50 PMOther operators do have issues with buses that don't track (I've had this before with Stagecoach's 169 service), but there is no mechanism for reporting them in this forum in order for action to be taken.

You can report issues with Diamond vehicles under the Rotala thread I believe.
 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Marge559 on March 23, 2025, 09:09:14 PM
Quote from: Rachvince53 on March 23, 2025, 08:43:33 PMYou can report issues with Diamond vehicles under the Rotala thread I believe.
 
Or just do what everyone else does and clog the Ask Simon Dunn thread with them!
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Mike K on March 25, 2025, 07:36:02 AM
6866 not tracking on the 23 - it was on the 07.02 departure from Bartley Green this morning.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: BBS on March 25, 2025, 07:52:05 PM
Seems like 7530 didn't like to be tracked, not tracking on the 97A again
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 26, 2025, 09:21:48 AM
Slight increase in actual number this week, but another couple of long term ones removed including 4862 now tracking for the first time since leaving PB for BC and now at WN

AG: 2174; 4495; 6115; 6128; 6148; 7506
BC: 4892; 4906; 4917; 6826; 6827; 6855; 6866; 6881; 7530
CV: 2157; E023; E071; E072; E080; E091; E145; E154; E276
PB: 1810; E172; E176; E196; E198; E201; E215; E219; E227; E293; E325; E329
PN: 824; 828; 2094; 6923
WA: 1884
WB: 4688; 4773; 6814; 6961; 6989; 6991
WN: 838; 2005; 2018; 2069; 6780; 6788
YW: E248; E269; E271

plus 4492; 5518; 2098; 6933; 806 & 2025 most of which look like they've been fixed, but aren't currently in use
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Wumpty on March 26, 2025, 09:41:43 AM
That's a phenomenal achievement @Tony to have 95.8% of the total NXWM & NXC fleet with full tracking. Most businesses work on an 80/20 split, though I'm sure there are some that will still criticise for the very small 4.2% that aren't tracking.
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 26, 2025, 09:56:29 AM
Quote from: Wumpty on March 26, 2025, 09:41:43 AMThat's a phenomenal achievement @Tony to have 95.8% of the total NXWM & NXC fleet with full tracking. Most businesses work on an 80/20 split, though I'm sure there are some that will still criticise for the very small 4.2% that aren't tracking.
The aim is to get it below 30 vehicles at any time. The numbers are at the highest point of the week because I have only just reported all the ones that failed in the last 7 days, so Traffilog will start clearing all the ones they can do remotely shortly
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Wumpty on March 26, 2025, 10:22:56 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2025, 09:56:29 AMThe aim is to get it below 30 vehicles at any time. The numbers are at the highest point of the week because I have only just reported all the ones that failed in the last 7 days, so Traffilog will start clearing all the ones they can do remotely shortly
That said, to have such a low number of inoperable machines speaks volumes for the systems and people in place to ensure the majority are working across a fleet of over 1400 vehicles. 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Mega Kickdown on March 26, 2025, 11:39:23 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2025, 09:21:48 AMSlight increase in actual number this week, but another couple of long term ones removed including 4862 now tracking for the first time since leaving PB for BC and now at WN

AG: 2174; 4495; 6115; 6128; 6148; 7506
BC: 4892; 4906; 4917; 6826; 6827; 6855; 6866; 6881; 7530
CV: 2157; E023; E071; E072; E080; E091; E145; E154; E276
PB: 1810; E172; E176; E196; E198; E201; E215; E219; E227; E293; E325; E329
PN: 824; 828; 2094; 6923
WA: 1884
WB: 4688; 4773; 6814; 6961; 6989; 6991
WN: 838; 2005; 2018; 2069; 6780; 6788
YW: E248; E269; E271

plus 4492; 5518; 2098; 6933; 806 & 2025 most of which look like they've been fixed, but aren't currently in use
assuming that 4481 is broken not a non tracker?

Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Secondary trigger 28 on March 26, 2025, 12:45:25 PM
6827  is  not tracking properly 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 26, 2025, 02:28:14 PM
Quote from: Secondary trigger 28 on March 26, 2025, 12:45:25 PM6827  is  not tracking properly
I know, that's why it is on the list I posted 3 hours earlier
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Secondary trigger 28 on March 26, 2025, 06:53:31 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2025, 02:28:14 PMI know, that's why it is on the list I posted 3 hours earlier
Sorry posted it without looking at the earlier post
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: adambotee on March 27, 2025, 10:08:52 AM
Tracker on 2021 is jammed in Wolverhampton City Centre. It's on the 33 route today
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 27, 2025, 02:21:57 PM
The longest standing non-tracker is back up working this afternoon.

6933 which didn't track at all in 2024
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Mega Kickdown on March 27, 2025, 02:44:50 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 27, 2025, 02:21:57 PMThe longest standing non-tracker is back up working this afternoon.

6933 which didn't track at all in 2024
4481 n 4688 is tracking! 
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Secondary trigger 28 on March 27, 2025, 04:51:41 PM
E237 is not tracking on the X2
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: adambotee on March 27, 2025, 08:18:10 PM
2086 - Tracker Stuck
Title: Re: 2025 - vehicles not tracking on bustimes
Post by: Tony on March 28, 2025, 10:11:23 AM
Several more have been cleared today, so at the moment I only have 44 vehicles in service not tracking at all and 7 tracking, but not properly. Then another 10 that are on the watch list but not in service today.

AG: 2174; 6115; 6124; 6128; 7506 + 6148 partly working and 4492; 4495 not in service
BC: 4892; 4917; 6826; 6827; 6855; 6881; 7530 + 4906 & 5518 not in service
CV: E023; E058; E071; E072; E080; E145; E276 + 2157; E091 & E154 partly working
PB: 1810; E176; E196; E201; E215; E219; E293; E329
PN: 824; 828; 2094 + 826 partly working and 2098 not in service
WA: 806; 1884 + H1003; H1005 & H1008 which I believe are fixed but not in service
WB: 4688; 4951; 6961; 6989; 6991 +4773 not in service
WN: 2005; 2018; 6780; 6788 + 2021 & 2086 partly tracking and 2025 not in service
YW: E248; E269; E279

Most notable coming off the list is E325 which hadn't tracked for 5 months

Any additions welcome