I was just a Boxing Day timetables. Is it different rules for the Black Country garages not running late services out of brum city centre when the brum garages are? I thought bc pb and wa had the same management. Curious really.
Had a look at a few online & nobody's proofreaded them!
One of the 529's refers to 'Origin to Destination via Willenhall' & part of the Walsall 31 / 32 isn't printed properly!
Quote from: Westy on December 15, 2023, 09:37:18 PMHad a look at a few online & nobody's proofreaded them!
One of the 529's refers to 'Origin to Destination via Willenhall' & part of the Walsall 31 / 32 isn't printed properly!
Nobody's proofread this either 😂
Quote from: monkeyjoe on December 15, 2023, 08:33:37 PMI was just a Boxing Day timetables. Is it different rules for the Black Country garages not running late services out of brum city centre when the brum garages are? I thought bc pb and wa had the same management. Curious really.
I haven't gone through them all - there are alot (as the proof readers will know...), but the 9, 12, 51, 74, 87 and X8 at least will all be running into the late evening.
To gives examples the 9, 51 , 74 are finishing 2300 ish ; the 94 , 50 , 97 ,33 finishing normal 0000/0100 ish.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on December 16, 2023, 03:15:33 AMTo gives examples the 9, 51 , 74 are finishing 2300 ish ; the 94 , 50 , 97 ,33 finishing normal 0000/0100 ish.
Longer Routes though are the 9, 51 maybe not as long as the 94 or 97, 74 depends is it to West Brom or Dudley.
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 16, 2023, 11:23:31 AMLonger Routes though are the 9, 51 maybe not as long as the 94 or 97, 74 depends is it to West Brom or Dudley.
51 is hardly 'long' at those times of the day, it's near enough the same time as the 97 when there's no traffic.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on December 15, 2023, 08:33:37 PMI was just a Boxing Day timetables. Is it different rules for the Black Country garages not running late services out of brum city centre when the brum garages are? I thought bc pb and wa had the same management. Curious really.
It is probably more down to what staff garages have available or are willing to work on that day, rather than any 'rules'.
I note with interest that on the 2/3 timetable, that there is a departure from Birmingham on the 2 at 20:05, with the next one four hours later at 00:05. Either there is an error in the timetable, or some other bus off another service will operate this journey.
Quote from: Stu on December 16, 2023, 06:20:10 PMI note with interest that on the 2/3 timetable, that there is a departure from Birmingham on the 2 at 20:05, with the next one four hours later at 00:05. Either there is an error in the timetable, or some other bus off another service will operate this journey.
Those post midnight journeys are incorrect, this is some sort of repeat of the 'glitch' where the schedule rolls over into the following day, those timings will be for the following day.
Quote from: Jack on December 16, 2023, 05:04:56 PM51 is hardly 'long' at those times of the day, it's near enough the same time as the 97 when there's no traffic.
Maybe the distance to Walsall Garage otherwise I don't know
So, been waiting for a 4 since 13:10, it's now 14:08 and 3 buses have gone past not 1 has stopped mainly elderly in the bus stop too, it is a joke, all these advertisements no fuss travel by bus, it's a joke, people aren't going to want to use the buses if they don't stop, the 4 services need double deckers, they are expempt from Sandwell and Dudley bridge, they need using on the route. After todays performance National express have lost some passengers after waiting over a hour for a bus, these were elderly too, now don't get me wrong I know it's Boxing Day and there is a special service operating but when the third bus that went passed was not that full and went straight past that is a joke no excuses for that. Hopefully start to use deckers on the 4s now as they really are needed.
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 26, 2023, 02:39:02 PMSo, been waiting for a 4 since 13:10, it's now 14:08 and 3 buses have gone past not 1 has stopped mainly elderly in the bus stop too, it is a joke, all these advertisements no fuss travel by bus, it's a joke, people aren't going to want to use the buses if they don't stop, the 4 services need double deckers, they are expempt from Sandwell and Dudley bridge, they need using on the route. After todays performance National express have lost some passengers after waiting over a hour for a bus, these were elderly too, now don't get me wrong I know it's Boxing Day and there is a special service operating but when the third bus that went passed was not that full and went straight past that is a joke no excuses for that. Hopefully start to use deckers on the 4s now as they really are needed.
If double deckers were to go onto the 4 (which I doubt very much), where would the double deckers come from and even more important where would the single deckers go bearing in mind that NX has too many single deckers anyway
Quote from: Steve3229vp on December 26, 2023, 02:59:08 PMIf double deckers were to go onto the 4 (which I doubt very much), where would the double deckers come from and even more important where would the single deckers go bearing in mind that NX has too many single deckers anyway
There will probably soon be more deckers in the fleet when the electrics enter service in the next few months. Though more likely Birmingham routes that get extra deckers I guess.
Also Diamond don't use double decker buses on their WA 4's either.
Quote from: Steve3229vp on December 26, 2023, 02:59:08 PMIf double deckers were to go onto the 4 (which I doubt very much), where would the double deckers come from and even more important where would the single deckers go bearing in mind that NX has too many single deckers anyway
There is more than enough double deckers spare on Sundays, even if the 4s get doubles on peak times in the week and Sunday service it would definitely improve the route and bring more customers in.
So, you tell drivers they can ignore a height restriction and guess what, others get ignored with serious consequences
Quote from: Steve3229vp on December 26, 2023, 02:59:08 PMIf double deckers were to go onto the 4 (which I doubt very much), where would the double deckers come from and even more important where would the single deckers go bearing in mind that NX has too many single deckers anyway
It's fairly simple - just replace them directly with new electrics (NXWM will soon have 80 new ones parked up).
I know that's unlikely to happen - however they'll almost certainly be indirectly replaced by electrics of one type or another, B7RLEs displaced by electrics, replacing the Scanias where single deckers are still needed. Note there are still 19 at CV (as well as the E200s).
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 26, 2023, 03:38:33 PMdoubles on peak times
Double deckers are already in use at peak times, so where would you get double deckers from ?
Quote from: Steve3229vp on December 26, 2023, 03:48:05 PMDouble deckers are already in use at peak times, so where would you get double deckers from ?
The 4s do not get double deckers in peak time. It's always single deckers.
Quote from: Tony on December 26, 2023, 03:41:10 PMSo, you tell drivers they can ignore a height restriction and guess what, others get ignored with serious consequences
Exactly it's been said many times that Deckers are too not be going under that bridge but clearly certain people clearly are brainless...
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 26, 2023, 03:38:33 PMThere is more than enough double deckers spare on Sundays, even if the 4s get doubles on peak times in the week and Sunday service it would definitely improve the route and bring more customers in.
The quote about double deckers in peak time came from you not me !
Isn't there a parallel route the 4 could use, to allow double deckers?
Not too sure on the road layout in that area.
Quote from: Steve3229vp on December 26, 2023, 04:04:39 PMThe quote about double deckers in peak time came from you not me !
Yes I said if they could get double deckers on peak time, I didn't say it gets them.
Quote from: Tony on December 26, 2023, 03:41:10 PMSo, you tell drivers they can ignore a height restriction and guess what, others get ignored with serious consequences
Well no not really, mark it on the running boards in red and bold EXEMPTION IN PLACE, or why don't they change the route slightly to go the way West Brom send double deckers on dead run to and from West Bromwich. Something needs to be done regarding the 4 service.
Quote from: Westy on December 26, 2023, 04:39:24 PMIsn't there a parallel route the 4 could use, to allow double deckers?
Not too sure on the road layout in that area.
Yes they could send them the way West Bromwich garage send their buses to and from oldbury on dead run.
I've just realised that today, Boxing Day, only NXWM have run to/in Stourbridge, Halesowen, Oldbury, Sutton Coldfield and Solihull - if I've got it right.
Also, like last year, NX Coventry has been the only operator running not only in Coventry but also Leamington and Nuneaton. No doubt the lack of Stagecoach buses in Nuneaton has encouraged NXC to run the over full 20 route to Nuneaton today - on Sundays it only reaches Bedworth.
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 26, 2023, 02:39:02 PMSo, been waiting for a 4 since 13:10, it's now 14:08 and 3 buses have gone past not 1 has stopped mainly elderly in the bus stop too, it is a joke, all these advertisements no fuss travel by bus, it's a joke, people aren't going to want to use the buses if they don't stop, the 4 services need double deckers, they are expempt from Sandwell and Dudley bridge, they need using on the route. After todays performance National express have lost some passengers after waiting over a hour for a bus, these were elderly too, now don't get me wrong I know it's Boxing Day and there is a special service operating but when the third bus that went passed was not that full and went straight past that is a joke no excuses for that. Hopefully start to use deckers on the 4s now as they really are needed.
Low bridge under Sandwell and dudley Station
Quote from: Lukeee on December 26, 2023, 06:18:35 PMLow bridge under Sandwell and dudley Station
Buses are expempt from the bridge
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 26, 2023, 06:24:13 PMBuses are expempt from the bridge
Yes but Drivers can't ignore the Garage advice I'm sure 4951 I think or a WB 49xx during Covid lost part of it's Route on the 3. As for running a diversion route for Double Deckers wouldn't that be counter intuitive because passengers catch the 4 to get to Sandwell and Dudley or Oldbury, running it another one means it would loose passengers. Maybe a frequency increase but the 4 will be busy it is the most direct route between West Bromwich and Walsall.
Is there actually a reason lots of services are running until 6 or 7, that I may have missed. And why the 51, 529, 79 and so are running until 11PM or Midnight.
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 26, 2023, 06:42:58 PMYes but Drivers can't ignore the Garage advice I'm sure 4951 I think or a WB 49xx during Covid lost part of its Route on the 3. As for running a diversion route for Double Deckers wouldn't that be counter intuitive because passengers catch the 4 to get to Sandwell and Dudley or Oldbury, running it another one means it would loose passengers. Maybe a frequency increase but the 4 will be busy it is the most direct route between West Bromwich and Walsall.
You can still use it to Sandwell and Dudley as it comes out the road the other side of the bridge, or ad you said a frequency increase but double deckers would be ideal for the route
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 26, 2023, 07:06:21 PMYou can still use it to Sandwell and Dudley as it comes out the road the other side of the bridge, or ad you said a frequency increase but double deckers would be ideal for the route
Yes but where do they get from there are many routes that could do with Double Deckers such as the WA 11, 11A, 4's, 31/32, 29, 34/37 of a peak time but they don't have enough Double Deckers.
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 26, 2023, 07:11:08 PMYes but where do they get from there are many routes that could do with Double Deckers such as the WA 11, 11A, 4's, 31/32, 29, 34/37 of a peak time but they don't have enough Double Deckers.
That's what I've been trying to tell him. The last couple of weeks there has been single deckers on the 937 and 997 in peak hours, so that reinforces what both of us have now said which is - Where do you get the double deckers from ?
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 26, 2023, 06:51:18 PMIs there actually a reason lots of services are running until 6 or 7, that I may have missed. And why the 51, 529, 79 and so are running until 11PM or Midnight.
I don't know for certain but it may be down to the staff numbers available to work. Some drivers will already be on holiday, many may not wish to work the overtime.
https://x.com/nxwestmidlands/status/1739719507935949037?s=20
Is this the same section we were discussing earlier?
(Note : Incident now cleared!)
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 26, 2023, 07:11:08 PMYes but where do they get from there are many routes that could do with Double Deckers such as the WA 11, 11A, 4's, 31/32, 29, 34/37 of a peak time but they don't have enough Double Deckers.
We already know the issue with the 4 regarding the sandwell & dudley station bridge
The 11/A also cant use doubles due to low trees on the route at tipton
Quote from: Steve3229vp on December 26, 2023, 07:28:20 PMThat's what I've been trying to tell him. The last couple of weeks there has been single deckers on the 937 and 997 in peak hours, so that reinforces what both of us have now said which is - Where do you get the double deckers from ?
The 997 needs Double Deckers I Don't get it as it takes ages to get to Walsall and Brum, but it serves busy areas like Aldridge, Rushall, Pheasey and more. The X51 occasionally has Single Deckers on it and it gets rammed. The 51 always seems to have Doubles on
Quote from: Stu on December 26, 2023, 07:40:25 PMI don't know for certain but it may be down to the staff numbers available to work. Some drivers will already be on holiday, many may not wish to work the overtime.
This has never been an issue as far as I'm aware on other Boxing Days
Quote from: EK40 on December 26, 2023, 09:42:11 PMWe already know the issue with the 4 regarding the sandwell & dudley station bridge
The 11/A also cant use doubles due to low trees on the route at tipton
There has been one pictured on the 311 but yeah low trees on Powis Aveune.
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 26, 2023, 09:52:51 PMThis has never been an issue as far as I'm aware on other Boxing Days
All driving duties on Boxing day are volunteer overtime.
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 26, 2023, 06:51:18 PMIs there actually a reason lots of services are running until 6 or 7, that I may have missed. And why the 51, 529, 79 and so are running until 11PM or Midnight.
Only main routes on Boxing Day run until the end of night like the 4 service. Other routes finish around teatime. Been like that few years now on Boxing Day.
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 26, 2023, 09:52:13 PMThe 997 needs Double Deckers I Don't get it as it takes ages to get to Walsall and Brum, but it serves busy areas like Aldridge, Rushall, Pheasey and more. The X51 occasionally has Single Deckers on it and it gets rammed. The 51 always seems to have Doubles on
Occasionally running boards for the 51 have single deckers on because of not being able to use many hydrogen vehicles now. Don't know if this will still be the case come January.
@Tony will double deckers be considered on the 4s and 3s
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 26, 2023, 10:55:55 PM@Tony will double deckers be considered on the 4s and 3s
Isnt the usual 3 allocation e200s?
Probably would need to be deemed enough to get full size singles (which we dont have much of a shortage of) before stepping up to doubles (especially when city routes like the 12/13 could use them more)
And for the 4
an exemption wont let a 14ft double decker fit under a 13ft bridge and i cant see how you'd divert the route sensibly considering the nearest way around would be up spon lane which would probably make anyone on the A4034 annoyed as they wont have any nearby peaktime service anymore
Quote from: EK40 on December 27, 2023, 12:06:24 AMAnd for the 4
an exemption wont let a 14ft double decker fit under a 13ft bridge and i cant see how you'd divert the route sensibly considering the nearest way around would be up spon lane
West Bromwich Street is nearer than Spon Lane. Think it was said that is the dead route from WB.
There is an exemption for buses though its been explained its "not a good idea to tell drivers to ignore one sign and not other identical ones elsewhere". And i'd guess for same reason Diamond don't use deckers on the 4 either.
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=2835.msg321284#msg321284
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 26, 2023, 05:14:48 PMWell no not really, mark it on the running boards in red and bold EXEMPTION IN PLACE, or why don't they change the route slightly to go the way West Brom send double deckers on dead run to and from West Bromwich. Something needs to be done regarding the 4 service.
Nothing wrong with the 4's it's you just moaning again, they are frequent enough. You clearly can't argue with a Red Circle Sign so keep dreaming about DD's as it's not going to happen.
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 26, 2023, 10:55:55 PM@Tony will double deckers be considered on the 4s and 3s
Why does the 3 need Deckers for? More busier routes for them to be used on.
Your moaning about the 4 is getting annoying, I've been using the 4 for years and i've never had an issue, it's a frequent enough service plus with Diamond on it too. The only time you'll see standing loads is when there's heavy traffic or one bus has gone missing. Deckers can't go on there as it's a Red Circle which the drivers have been told to not ignore. Also where do you expect Deckers to come from and those singles to go? The 4 (404) has been single Deckers for decades funny now it's only you who's moaning about it, never heard anyone else complain about it.
Rant over.
Quote from: Jack on December 27, 2023, 03:08:28 AMWhy does the 3 need Deckers for? More busier routes for them to be used on.
Your moaning about the 4 is getting annoying, I've been using the 4 for years and i've never had an issue, it's a frequent enough service plus with Diamond on it too. The only time you'll see standing loads is when there's heavy traffic or one bus has gone missing. Deckers can't go on there as it's a Red Circle which the drivers have been told to not ignore. Also where do you expect Deckers to come from and those singles to go? The 4 (404) has been single Deckers for decades funny now it's only you who's moaning about it, never heard anyone else complain about it.
Rant over.
If I'm annoying you ignore me then, and no you can't argue with a red circle, but when the COUNCIL have said buses are expempt they are alllwed clearly you don't use the 4s as often as me because they are always rammed, especially morning and afternoon hence why I said even if they just get them on peak boards and Sundays,
Quote from: Tony on December 26, 2023, 10:12:54 PMAll driving duties on Boxing day are volunteer overtime.
Oh right I didn't know that
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 27, 2023, 08:22:53 AMIf I'm annoying you ignore me then, and no you can't argue with a red circle, but when the COUNCIL have said buses are expempt they are alllwed clearly you don't use the 4s as often as me because they are always rammed, especially morning and afternoon hence why I said even if they just get them on peak boards and Sundays,
But you have been told that NX says no and that is final. The Drivers can't ignore there bosses. The Council aren't NX. NX knows how much of a risk it wants to take with it's Double Deckers as Jack has said it has worked fine with Single Deckers for years. The 4M especially at this time of year is really busy due to Christmas Shoppers at Merry Hill but it has coped fine. If NX were to get Double Deckers where do you propose they get them from or what type. I wouldn't want them to be removed of the Rammed Birmingham services and services like the 6, 7 and 10
Another ALF 😡
Quote from: karl724223 on December 27, 2023, 09:33:41 AMAnother ALF 😡
Agreed. Yet it's always longstanding members getting told off.
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 27, 2023, 11:42:46 AMQuote from: Wba_lad on December 27, 2023, 11:42:46 AMIt's not a accusation it's the truth!
It's not a accusation it's the truth!
It's an accusation and this is a warning that you are getting very close to being removed.
You lied to the other admins to get back on this forum
Quote from: Tony on December 27, 2023, 11:50:40 AMIt's not a accusation it's the truth!
It's an accusation and this is a warning that you are getting very close to being removed.
You lied to the other admins to get back on this forum
I don't want to be romoved.
Everyone so angry
If he was removed before and clearly lied to get back on then he should be removed. Considering you told me last week that Tony knew it was you so that was clearly a lie aswell
Anyway back on Topic I assume today is Saturday Service as the 34 is every 20 Minutes I think are usually every 12 minutes during Monday - Friday.
I do believe it's Saturday service today yes
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 27, 2023, 11:52:15 AMI don't want to be romoved.
Quote from: cris 99 on December 27, 2023, 12:11:12 PMIf he was removed before and clearly lied to get back on then he should be removed. Considering you told me last week that Tony knew it was you so that was clearly a lie aswell
Agreed enough is enough.
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 27, 2023, 12:06:36 PMEveryone so angry
Post Christmas blues and hangovers, I'd wager 🤣🤣
From what I can see, the WBA member raised a reasonable issue with the 4M route (he's not the only one - I've seen moans elsewhere about it, including on You Tube). It's other people that seem to have taken issue and got aggressive (I'm not referring to
@Tony before anyone says it) - but I've yet to see any sensible answer to the original issue raised, although the question of upgrading to double deckers does seem to have been done to death on here. The fact is the currently allocated buses are due to be withdrawn in the next couple of years, and also seem to struggle with loadings at times. Why all that is not a sensible topic for discussion, I fail to comprehend!
And by the way, what is this ALF nonsense?? 🥴
I think half the issue with the 4 yesterday was that Diamond wasn't operating on the route, so there were only the NX buses. The timetables on NX suggested they were running between the three services (4/4H/4M) every 15 minutes between Walsall and Blackheath, which seems to be a third of the normal combined five minute running. I guess demand outstripped supply.
Quote from: ellspurs on December 27, 2023, 01:53:49 PMI think half the issue with the 4 yesterday was that Diamond wasn't operating on the route, so there were only the NX buses. The timetables on NX suggested they were running between the three services (4/4H/4M) every 15 minutes between Walsall and Blackheath, which seems to be a third of the normal combined five minute running. I guess demand outstripped supply.
Diamond don't normally run a Sunday service on there .
They were running on several services other routes that normally run on Sundays across Birmingham, the Black Country and Redditch.
Quote from: 2206 on December 27, 2023, 02:01:50 PMDiamond don't normally run a Sunday service on there .
They were running on several services other routes that normally run on Sundays across Birmingham, the Black Country and Redditch.
Was NX just running their Sunday service then?
Quote from: ellspurs on December 27, 2023, 02:06:16 PMWas NX just running their Sunday service then?
Reduced Sunday Service but yes although I think the 4 and maybe 4M ran til 10/11PM
Quote from: Jack on December 27, 2023, 11:05:05 AMAgreed. Yet it's always longstanding members getting told off.
The majority of long standing members never hear from us at all, but there's always a handful (same few every time...) that insist on 'baiting' / playing moderator on the forum, instead of using the proper channels.
Those posts are as annoying as the members they are complaining about! Thus resulting in pages of bickering & whinging....
Quote from: karl724223 on December 27, 2023, 09:33:41 AMAnother ALF 😡
Quote from: don on December 27, 2023, 01:16:04 PMAnd by the way, what is this ALF nonsense?? 🥴
Whatever it is, it ends here. It seems to have insulting/abusive connotations, and I've had enough of it.
Anyone who continues to use this term against other members will find themselves no longer a member here.
Same goes for anyone who persists in baiting, trolling and petty bickering.
I once again remind
everybody of the Forum Rules. (https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4859.0)
One issue with the 4/4H/4M is since the joint timetable with diamond there is less buses on the route, when I used to drive the 4 it often wasn't too busy and on the occasion you had a full bus you could guarantee the next bus would only be a couple minutes behind and have about half a load tops, I haven't been on the route since spring so I can't comment on how loadings are since the frequency changes
Quote from: Lukeee on December 27, 2023, 07:16:47 PMOne issue with the 4/4H/4M is since the joint timetable with diamond there is less buses on the route, when I used to drive the 4 it often wasn't too busy and on the occasion you had a full bus you could guarantee the next bus would only be a couple minutes behind and have about half a load tops, I haven't been on the route since spring so I can't comment on how loadings are since the frequency changes
If it's anything like the 31/32, I miss those quieter buses, as everyone piled on NX rather than Diamond!
Seems like the 4 is the perfect candidate for new bendibuses! :cool: :cool: :cool:
Quote from: bususer28 on December 27, 2023, 08:49:57 PMSeems like the 4 is the perfect candidate for new bendibuses! :cool: :cool: :cool:
Would fit like a dream round caldmore lmao
Quote from: bususer28 on December 27, 2023, 08:49:57 PMSeems like the 4 is the perfect candidate for new bendibuses! :cool: :cool: :cool:
Try getting those around certain parts of the route and you'll be stuck!
@Stu can this thread be separated in to festive timetable and issues with the 4/4M/4H please
Quote from: BK63 YWP on December 28, 2023, 08:49:59 AM@Stu can this thread be separated in to festive timetable and issues with the 4/4M/4H please
I've created one.
Are 24 hours services like the X1 and 74 still running I'm sure I read somewhere that the 74 wasn't but not sure if that is for Boxing Day. I think the 74 Is a 24 hour route anyway
The timetable for service 74 is showing a 3 hour gap in service between 0035 and 0325 on the West Brom - Birmingham journeys.
X1 is still showing an hourly service between 0000 and 0300 between Birmingham Airport and Birmingham.
63 is still showing an hourly service overnight as well.
97 is only showing a two hour gap in service between 0200 and 0400 or so.
I can't remember if there were any other 24 hour services.
Quote from: ellspurs on December 28, 2023, 11:11:17 AMThe timetable for service 74 is showing a 3 hour gap in service between 0035 and 0325 on the West Brom - Birmingham journeys.
X1 is still showing an hourly service between 0000 and 0300 between Birmingham Airport and Birmingham.
63 is still showing an hourly service overnight as well.
97 is only showing a two hour gap in service between 0200 and 0400 or so.
I can't remember if there were any other 24 hour services.
63 has a 2 hour gap on weekday mornings. On Saturday and Sunday morning timetables it has an extra 03:01 journey.
74 has extra early morning journeys on Saturday and Sunday morning timetables as well.
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 28, 2023, 09:54:56 AMI've created one.
@Wba_lad we didn't need you to create a new thread!
The request was for Stu or another admin to create a new thread & merge the 4/4H/4M comments from this thread in to a new one...
Are there supposed to be timetable changes on both the 7th & 14th, or is there a 'technical issue' again?
Quote from: Westy on January 01, 2024, 05:16:51 PMAre there supposed to be timetable changes on both the 7th & 14th, or is there a 'technical issue' again?
What are you specifically referring to?
Yes, there will be changes on both dates:
https://wmbu.org.uk/2023/12/service-changes-in-january-2024/
Most changes from 14th January will relate to the closure of Dudley bus station.
Quote from: Stu on January 01, 2024, 05:24:42 PMWhat are you specifically referring to?
Yes, there will be changes on both dates:
https://wmbu.org.uk/2023/12/service-changes-in-january-2024/
Most changes from 14th January will relate to the closure of Dudley bus station.
Here's an example :
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/9-walsall-wolverhampton
As you can see, changes on both dates & correct me if I'm wrong, neither service has changes scheduled as per NX's own publicity online!
I only found out while checking what the timetables were for tomorrow.
The 69 has a change on both 7th & 14th.
The 7th we know about, but the 14th?
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/69-walsall-wolverhampton
Something similar happened last year, which ISTR you commented on.
Quote from: Westy on January 01, 2024, 08:20:22 PMHere's an example :
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/9-walsall-wolverhampton
As you can see, changes on both dates & correct me if I'm wrong, neither service has changes scheduled as per NX's own publicity online!
I only found out while checking what the timetables were for tomorrow.
The 69 has a change on both 7th & 14th.
The 7th we know about, but the 14th?
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/69-walsall-wolverhampton
Something similar happened last year, which ISTR you commented on.
Its the same on all Black Country routes I think. Probably because the Dudley changes happen that day.
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/34-walsall-bilston
It doesn't say there are timetable changes on the 14th. If you look at the timetable for the 7th i'm sure you'll see its exactly the same as the one for the 14th.
Quote from: 2206 on January 01, 2024, 08:24:04 PMIt doesn't say there are timetable changes on the 14th. If you look at the timetable for the 7th i'm sure you'll see its exactly the same as the one for the 14th.
But as I said, something similar happened last year.
That's why I was checking.