Although I disagree with Karma (all be it a bit of fun which personally I do not care what my rating is) along with other on-line stats such as ebay feedback, reviews (which can be the same reviewer reviewing the same s**t firm in a positive manner under a different i.d) I have noticed recently that certain peoples -Karma have been re-set to default
Would anyone agree with me that while the said person/persons can re-set their Karma they can still apply justified/unjustified Karma onto other users? I'm not saying they will...but they could and so I would suggest the same rule should apply to everyone where Karma should not be influenced and once given remain unchanged. Afterall no Karma + or - is justified as it is just an opinion and most I would say is unjustified in any case. Friends will praise friends, enemys revoke enemys!
On a lot of other forums that i use a reason must be given before - rep can be given
Firstly, I'd like to hold my hands up & apologise unreservedly for my postings over the weekend. I broke my own rule about never posting after having a drink (particularly on contentious issues), not that that excuses my rant in any way.
As to the +/- issue, a major forum that i'm on steers well clear of the '-' aspect of reputation by only allowing positives, which is basically a good idea. Beyond the hardcore membership, you get a good idea of other members input by their relative mediocre '+' scores.
As for awarding karma/reputation, i only award positives anyway. I just don't see the point of me awarding negatives (even when p***ed :-[), cos a quick scan of their posts gives a much more accurate picture of them.
Quote from: NEL111P on July 03, 2012, 10:55:59 PM
Firstly, I'd like to hold my hands up & apologise unreservedly for my postings over the weekend. I broke my own rule about never posting after having a drink (particularly on contentious issues), not that that excuses my rant in any way.
As to the +/- issue, a major forum that i'm on steers well clear of the '-' aspect of reputation by only allowing positives, which is basically a good idea. Beyond the hardcore membership, you get a good idea of other members input by their relative mediocre '+' scores.
As for awarding karma/reputation, i only award positives anyway. I just don't see the point of me awarding negatives (even when p***ed :-[), cos a quick scan of their posts gives a much more accurate picture of them.
Agreed! + Karma resumed!
I think I've got the worst karma, mainly from Sir 4504 and Mr NathanJC.
Quote from: Michael on July 03, 2012, 11:34:22 PM
I think I've got the worst karma, mainly from Sir 4504 and Mr NathanJC.
i havent given you bad karma for ages 8), so how u got 195 i dont know
Quote from: Michael on July 03, 2012, 11:34:22 PM
I think I've got the worst karma, mainly from Sir 4504 and Mr NathanJC.
Better to be the best at something bad than being best at nothing!
Or you could just not care less about karma ratings, like I do. I couldn't tell you off the top of my head what mine are, and I don't even bother looking. 8)
Quote from: 4006 on July 04, 2012, 08:11:57 PM
Quote from: Michael on July 03, 2012, 11:34:22 PM
I think I've got the worst karma, mainly from Sir 4504 and Mr NathanJC.
Better to be the best at something bad than being best at nothing!
Haha one way to look at it! Nearly at the magic 200!
Quote from: Michael on July 04, 2012, 09:03:04 PM
Quote from: 4006 on July 04, 2012, 08:11:57 PM
Quote from: Michael on July 03, 2012, 11:34:22 PM
I think I've got the worst karma, mainly from Sir 4504 and Mr NathanJC.
Better to be the best at something bad than being best at nothing!
Haha one way to look at it! Nearly at the magic 200!
You just peaked!!!! 200 yay!!!!!
500 up next challenge ;D
I've never given any karma, but I'd gladly help you out with reaching the 500 (minus)! ;)
Although, technically you are at -163 overall as you have -201 + 38. I really should rename myself Mr. Pedantic.
Quote from: 4006 on July 03, 2012, 10:22:09 PM
Although I disagree with Karma (all be it a bit of fun which personally I do not care what my rating is) along with other on-line stats such as ebay feedback, reviews (which can be the same reviewer reviewing the same s**t firm in a positive manner under a different i.d) I have noticed recently that certain peoples -Karma have been re-set to default
Would anyone agree with me that while the said person/persons can re-set their Karma they can still apply justified/unjustified Karma onto other users? I'm not saying they will...but they could and so I would suggest the same rule should apply to everyone where Karma should not be influenced and once given remain unchanged. Afterall no Karma + or - is justified as it is just an opinion and most I would say is unjustified in any case. Friends will praise friends, enemys revoke enemys!
noticed that myself lots of + and - now nil -tive karma
Tony
What has happened to the Karma counter see its altered but how did you work out the new ratings
I think what now shows is the overall karma. Such as mine was +29 and -32 so its now -3
Quote from: windy miller on September 22, 2012, 03:36:25 PM
If the 'smite' option has also been removed then, presumably, your 'Karma' would only go UP from now on??? :-\
Smite has been replaced by 'not so nice'
Fair doos "smite" was abit of an agressive word tbf lol
It looks like instead of say +12/-1, if you press not so nice, then the number will do down by one, and go up if you press nice.
Karma? it's still next to The Pleck and round the corner From Palfrey!
it would be the clap not karma you would get from there lol :D
What's happened to Dave? :o
Over the last week my Karma has been reduced by at least 10 which I ain't bothered about but just wondered why as I don't make any stupid suggestions just mainly posting unusual working and if people respond to any of my questions I ask I show appreciation by thanking them. I just don't see the point to it as i believe a forum is for an open discussion if you don't like a suggestion give your view if you think its better and not just reduce someone's Karma. At the moment my Karma is on 20 I expect it to get reduced to at least -5 lol by the end of the evening from this comment. What do other people think about it as it is a forum for discussion.
To be honest, I don't use it, and I take no notice of my 'score' either. It doesn't bother me in the least. 8)
Quote from: Stu on February 05, 2013, 07:04:10 PM
To be honest, I don't use it, and I take no notice of my 'score' either. It doesn't bother me in the least. 8)
Same here just if regular posters keeping getting there score decreased and making some fair points they may not bother posting, just wondered what other people thoughts were really but agree I ain't fussed in the slightest just if someone disagrees with me would rather someone give me why they disagree and their own opinion not minus my karma but thats my view others are entitled to differ.
I just showed my agreement with your post by increasing your karma...
But seriously, I absolutely agree with you. I would suggest the whole idea of karma is removed and perhaps instead the ability to "plus/minus" individual posts is added - so your reputation on the whole site isn't worsened by one mistake in a post.
The only reason my karma went down so drastically (-29) is because I put a Snow Hill Lines banner picture as my signature. Then it started going up to about -9, and then to 0, either someone really likes me, or my karma was reset. I'm not too fussed anyway, if people want to give me bad karma because of my signature then that's their business :), now my karma is usually between 1 and -1
Quote from: nitromatt1 on February 05, 2013, 07:23:04 PM
I just showed my agreement with your post by increasing your karma...
But seriously, I absolutely agree with you. I would suggest the whole idea of karma is removed and perhaps instead the ability to "plus/minus" individual posts is added - so your reputation on the whole site isn't worsened by one mistake in a post.
Thanks nitromatt1 (I've repaid you lol), Sounds like an excellent idea to me they do a similar thing on the sky sports website you give it a tick if you like an individual comment and a cross if you don't. So for example one comment may have 38 ticks and 12 crosses. So overall a positive comment.
Is is possible instead to have a 'like' or 'thumbs up' only? It's good to like people's posts if you agree with them etc. don't really like the dislike option.
Quote from: 4006 (Not NEL 111P) on July 04, 2012, 08:11:57 PM
Quote from: Michael on July 03, 2012, 11:34:22 PM
I think I've got the worst karma, mainly from Sir 4504 and Mr NathanJC.
Better to be the best at something bad than being best at nothing!
Even more positive Krama and a good comment.
Quote from: Ash on February 05, 2013, 06:54:38 PM
Over the last week my Karma has been reduced by at least 10 which I ain't bothered about but just wondered why as I don't make any stupid suggestions just mainly posting unusual working and if people respond to any of my questions I ask I show appreciation by thanking them. I just don't see the point to it as i believe a forum is for an open discussion if you don't like a suggestion give your view if you think its better and not just reduce someone's Karma. At the moment my Karma is on 20 I expect it to get reduced to at least -5 lol by the end of the evening from this comment. What do other people think about it as it is a forum for discussion.
I know I rant but I do not slate on Karma I may get things wrong but please correct me and I get the same happen as you Ash just for commenting even on simple stuff. Mine will now go to -1000000000000000000000000000.
I really do think having karma on the forum is a pretty bad idea, for instance someone I know's karma is being repeatedly put down for no good reason and I'm having to put it back up again each time. As I see it it's just a way of picking on someone you don't like.
Although I don't know how much control Tony has over the features of the site, it would be a lot better - and I'm sure many others agree with me - if you give feedback on individual comments, rather than on the user as a whole. If Tony actually reads these, I really think it would be an idea to have the 'nice/not so nice' buttons used for voting on each comment, as previously suggested. Like they say, "judge the action not the person".
I think I win the award for worst karma.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on February 23, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
I really do think having karma on the forum is a pretty bad idea, for instance someone I know's karma is being repeatedly put down for no good reason and I'm having to put it back up again each time. As I see it it's just a way of picking on someone you don't like.
Although I don't know how much control Tony has over the features of the site, it would be a lot better - and I'm sure many others agree with me - if you give feedback on individual comments, rather than on the user as a whole. If Tony actually reads these, I really think it would be an idea to have the 'nice/not so nice' buttons used for voting on each comment, as previously suggested. Like they say, "judge the action not the person".
I don't think I can do that (unless someone who knows SMF better than me can advise)
Quote from: Tony on February 24, 2013, 09:57:19 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on February 23, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
I really do think having karma on the forum is a pretty bad idea, for instance someone I know's karma is being repeatedly put down for no good reason and I'm having to put it back up again each time. As I see it it's just a way of picking on someone you don't like.
Although I don't know how much control Tony has over the features of the site, it would be a lot better - and I'm sure many others agree with me - if you give feedback on individual comments, rather than on the user as a whole. If Tony actually reads these, I really think it would be an idea to have the 'nice/not so nice' buttons used for voting on each comment, as previously suggested. Like they say, "judge the action not the person".
I don't think I can do that (unless someone who knows SMF better than me can advise)
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3211
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3559
Quote from: vinh1000 on February 24, 2013, 10:06:05 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 24, 2013, 09:57:19 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on February 23, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
I really do think having karma on the forum is a pretty bad idea, for instance someone I know's karma is being repeatedly put down for no good reason and I'm having to put it back up again each time. As I see it it's just a way of picking on someone you don't like.
Although I don't know how much control Tony has over the features of the site, it would be a lot better - and I'm sure many others agree with me - if you give feedback on individual comments, rather than on the user as a whole. If Tony actually reads these, I really think it would be an idea to have the 'nice/not so nice' buttons used for voting on each comment, as previously suggested. Like they say, "judge the action not the person".
I don't think I can do that (unless someone who knows SMF better than me can advise)
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3211
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3559
Thanks, I will have a look at those later
I must say the first of those two mods does look ideal to me as a replacement for karma
On the subject of 'karma' it might be a better idea to list the karma 'status' as it were, on the Membership list..IE where they are only open to view by registered members and NOT by the casual observer/viewer/guest. If, (as at present) a casual viewer can see the overall 'rating' of each member and soon realise that 75% of the forum members are constantly being 'slated' by the other 25%, they might think twice about prospective membership.... ::) which is no help to anyone least of all Tony. Personally, I can't hope to keep everyone amused ALL of the time so I expect to get some 'downers' occasionally, but a simple 'thumb-up' or 'thumb-down' yellow Icon should be enough I would have thought.. :-\
Quote from: Tony on February 24, 2013, 10:22:28 AM
Quote from: vinh1000 on February 24, 2013, 10:06:05 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 24, 2013, 09:57:19 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on February 23, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
I really do think having karma on the forum is a pretty bad idea, for instance someone I know's karma is being repeatedly put down for no good reason and I'm having to put it back up again each time. As I see it it's just a way of picking on someone you don't like.
Although I don't know how much control Tony has over the features of the site, it would be a lot better - and I'm sure many others agree with me - if you give feedback on individual comments, rather than on the user as a whole. If Tony actually reads these, I really think it would be an idea to have the 'nice/not so nice' buttons used for voting on each comment, as previously suggested. Like they say, "judge the action not the person".
I don't think I can do that (unless someone who knows SMF better than me can advise)
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3211
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3559
Thanks, I will have a look at those later
The first link should prove well for the forum :)
Quote from: nobody on March 10, 2013, 09:24:31 PM
Karma is pointless if its anonymous. I'd like to know who disagrees with me so I can have discussions about it. Isn't that the point of a forum?
(It also allows people who know each other to raise each others karma artificially. You know who you are).
See above.
Tony, I was going to ask you yesterday but forgot, did you chance to look at the mods suggested above? As vinh1000 said, the first of them looks ideal to me
Quote from: nitromatt1 on March 10, 2013, 09:29:36 PM
Quote from: nobody on March 10, 2013, 09:24:31 PM
Karma is pointless if its anonymous. I'd like to know who disagrees with me so I can have discussions about it. Isn't that the point of a forum?
(It also allows people who know each other to raise each others karma artificially. You know who you are).
See above.
Tony, I was going to ask you yesterday but forgot, did you chance to look at the mods suggested above? As vinh1000 said, the first of them looks ideal to me
No I haven't had chance yet, any spare time I get at the moment I'm trying to finish the new Diamond fleetlist and links
Quote from: Tony on March 10, 2013, 09:41:36 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on March 10, 2013, 09:29:36 PM
Quote from: nobody on March 10, 2013, 09:24:31 PM
Karma is pointless if its anonymous. I'd like to know who disagrees with me so I can have discussions about it. Isn't that the point of a forum?
(It also allows people who know each other to raise each others karma artificially. You know who you are).
See above.
Tony, I was going to ask you yesterday but forgot, did you chance to look at the mods suggested above? As vinh1000 said, the first of them looks ideal to me
No I haven't had chance yet, any spare time I get at the moment I'm trying to finish the new Diamond fleetlist and links
No problem at all. I can imagine how busy you must be at the moment.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on February 23, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
I really do think having karma on the forum is a pretty bad idea, for instance someone I know's karma is being repeatedly put down for no good reason and I'm having to put it back up again each time. As I see it it's just a way of picking on someone you don't like.
Although I don't know how much control Tony has over the features of the site, it would be a lot better - and I'm sure many others agree with me - if you give feedback on individual comments, rather than on the user as a whole. If Tony actually reads these, I really think it would be an idea to have the 'nice/not so nice' buttons used for voting on each comment, as previously suggested. Like they say, "judge the action not the person".
Yes I say nothing and down it goes. I think I might just start doing that to every comment I do not at the moment even rate karma to anyone.
Yeah that happens to me u post an unusual working and ur karma just drops lol
Mine does that, I had 18 at one point, don't post and it just drops, never good lol.
Yeah I think it would be better to have like/dislike buttons for each comment as opposed to for the person in general if this is possible.
Or better still, just disable the karma feature altogether. I've administered forums using SMF before, and have never bothered with it myself.
Quote from: Ash on March 11, 2013, 12:09:40 PM
Yeah that happens to me u post an unusual working and ur karma just drops lol
And suprise suprise is happened twice again. Time to start just taking Karma off people I am getting sick of it. Something needs sorting about it.
I havent posted anything for a few days and my Karma has gone up 2!
Obviously I make more sence when I say nothing :P :P :P!!!!!
Quote from: 4006 on March 14, 2013, 04:20:27 PM
I havent posted anything for a few days and my Karma has gone up 2!
Obviously I make more sence when I say nothing :P :P :P!!!!!
I seem to find that too, if I keep quiet and just post unusual workings less chance of someone disagreeing with me and reducing my karma
Quote from: nitromatt1 on March 14, 2013, 04:27:16 PM
Quote from: 4006 on March 14, 2013, 04:20:27 PM
I havent posted anything for a few days and my Karma has gone up 2!
Obviously I make more sence when I say nothing :P :P :P!!!!!
I seem to find that too, if I keep quiet and just post unusual workings less chance of someone disagreeing with me and reducing my karma
I think you should take chances, but then again I've got -4?-2?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on March 14, 2013, 04:27:16 PM
Quote from: 4006 on March 14, 2013, 04:20:27 PM
I havent posted anything for a few days and my Karma has gone up 2!
Obviously I make more sence when I say nothing :P :P :P!!!!!
I seem to find that too, if I keep quiet and just post unusual workings less chance of someone disagreeing with me and reducing my karma
You should post as much as you want. Don't worry about the Karma, I've had -20+ before :)
Quote from: Shaun on March 14, 2013, 10:21:04 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on March 14, 2013, 04:27:16 PM
Quote from: 4006 on March 14, 2013, 04:20:27 PM
I havent posted anything for a few days and my Karma has gone up 2!
Obviously I make more sence when I say nothing :P :P :P!!!!!
I seem to find that too, if I keep quiet and just post unusual workings less chance of someone disagreeing with me and reducing my karma
You should post as much as you want. Don't worry about the Karma, I've had -20+ before :)
My lowest was -2 I think. Hopefully it won't go back down there unless someone decides to attack it daily again!
Karma has appeared to have been removed from the site. Personally i did't like karma as i just saw it as a way as being nasty to a certain person. My good Friend Nitromatt1's karma was being put down for no good reason. At one point my went down to -30 for no apparant reason
Quote from: Trident 4609 on March 29, 2013, 06:14:56 PM
Karma has appeared to have been removed from the site. Personally i did't like karma as i just saw it as a way as being nasty to a certain person. My good Friend Nitromatt1's karma was being put down for no good reason. At one point my went down to -30 for no apparant reason
Yes, it has been removed because of abuse
Quote from: Tony on March 29, 2013, 06:15:58 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on March 29, 2013, 06:14:56 PM
Karma has appeared to have been removed from the site. Personally i did't like karma as i just saw it as a way as being nasty to a certain person. My good Friend Nitromatt1's karma was being put down for no good reason. At one point my went down to -30 for no apparant reason
Yes, it has been removed because of abuse
Thank goodness for that. Mine seemed to go down even during extended periods of time when I was not posting and it seems like someone with nothing better to do was just clicking on dislike constantly. Maybe a button to like or dislike a particular comment would be a more useful feature
Quote from: Tony on March 29, 2013, 06:15:58 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on March 29, 2013, 06:14:56 PM
Karma has appeared to have been removed from the site. Personally i did't like karma as i just saw it as a way as being nasty to a certain person. My good Friend Nitromatt1's karma was being put down for no good reason. At one point my went down to -30 for no apparant reason
Yes, it has been removed because of abuse
Well thanks for removing it, i felt people were just using it to be nasty to an individual person.
Looks like my point has finally hit home.
Thanks Tony. Hopefully there will be less of a negative atmosphere on the site now
Quote from: Tony on March 29, 2013, 06:15:58 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on March 29, 2013, 06:14:56 PM
Karma has appeared to have been removed from the site. Personally i did't like karma as i just saw it as a way as being nasty to a certain person. My good Friend Nitromatt1's karma was being put down for no good reason. At one point my went down to -30 for no apparant reason
Yes, it has been removed because of abuse
We getting the disqus plugin?
On the subject of karma I have to plead guilty :-[ I'm afraid! If the person I chose to hit recently in response to my 'debits' actually was responsible then naturally he only had himself to blame. On the other hand If, (as I suspect) he may have been set-up then I offer him my apologies. So good luck mate ok? 8)
i always gave you good karma windy due to your jokes cheering me up after a long and stressful day.
WBdriver. thanks mate! some guy in front of me at the booking office at New St station said " I'd like a return ticket please".. The chap at the window said "where to?.. he said. 'Back here! 8)
Ive always refrained from negativity, but constantly had karma attacks, glad its gone
It's better without it in my opinion :)
Karma seams to have vanished (or is it my p.c on the blink?) I hope it has as I have taken advantage, not held back on my comments and may have upset a few people again...on the same hand if it really has gone...no more Mr nice guy ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: 4006 on March 30, 2013, 01:26:33 AM
Karma seams to have vanished (or is it my p.c on the blink?) I hope it has as I have taken advantage, not held back on my comments and may have upset a few people again...on the same hand if it really has gone...no more Mr nice guy ;D ;D ;D
It's been removed definitely as it's a forum everyone has the right to express their opinions if people don't like them argue your point back that's what i say as it is a discussion forum. As long as it doesn't get personal.
Will we have a replacement? If so will it be the links that was posted on the other karma discussion