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Title: 2017 Fares
Post by: Stu on December 09, 2016, 07:49:13 PM
This has been shared on my Facebook page just now, I presume it is an extract from a company memo?

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15400377_1190901967658691_742723647940454714_n.jpg?oh=d7ab63ce02639444650d1c6cdfdb3607&oe=58F61045)

"Blatant profiteering" indeed!  :D Once the news outlets get hold of this, it'll be like last year all over again, people getting outraged because the single fares went up, but overlooked the introduction of the off-peak Daysaver, as well as the decrease in Swift fares.
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: BU07 LGO on December 10, 2016, 09:03:34 AM
£1.50 short hop is much needed, though could be open to abuse like the people that ask for a city hop and go to wellhead lane!
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: Westy on December 10, 2016, 01:12:32 PM
Is there an official link yet?
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: Gareth on December 10, 2016, 01:18:07 PM
Mixed feeling about the £1.50 fare and its wording. It's great for passengers to get a big reduction like that. But I personally think more people should be walking instead of a short bus journey. And no I'm not talking about the elderly or disabled or when it's raining or snowing. There's one particular stop that my bus goes past. It's like a fight to the death with the 17 buggies that are usually waiting there. Particularly on a Sunday. They could walk to town from there in 10minutes.
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: 2206 on December 10, 2016, 04:31:02 PM
New fares are now advertised on 6112.
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: Stu on December 10, 2016, 04:54:44 PM
The reply containing this picture appears to have been removed from the post on my Facebook page.
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: B.C Driver on December 10, 2016, 05:55:54 PM
I would like the companys revenue team to be expanded.
Would like to see something similar to London where inspectors board buses in uniform or not, check tickets, get off, cross over the road, get on another bus and visa versa. Randomly targeting buses along the route as well as at 'gateway points'.
Would create a good revenue for the company in fines, deter smokers and deter future fare dodgers.
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: AndrewLee on December 10, 2016, 06:10:48 PM
Quote from: B.C Driver on December 10, 2016, 05:55:54 PM
I would like the companys revenue team to be expanded.
Would like to see something similar to London where inspectors board buses in uniform or not, check tickets, get off, cross over the road, get on another bus and visa versa. Randomly targeting buses along the route as well as at 'gateway points'.
Would create a good revenue for the company in fines, deter smokers and deter future fare dodgers.

Totally agree. Also, very early morning but especially late night checks. It's a free for all on a lot of routes!
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: BU07 LGO on December 10, 2016, 09:28:32 PM
Quote from: B.C Driver on December 10, 2016, 05:55:54 PM
I would like the companys revenue team to be expanded.
Would like to see something similar to London where inspectors board buses in uniform or not, check tickets, get off, cross over the road, get on another bus and visa versa. Randomly targeting buses along the route as well as at 'gateway points'.
Would create a good revenue for the company in fines, deter smokers and deter future fare dodgers.

They need more power, it's just a slight inconvenience for fare Dodgers to walk the last few stops
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on December 10, 2016, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on December 10, 2016, 09:28:32 PM
They need more power, it's just a slight inconvenience for fare Dodgers to walk the last few stops

It's great when theirs police with the revenue team then you see the fare dodgers really sh*t themselves !
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: Kevin on December 10, 2016, 09:46:22 PM
I'm currently in Rotterdam
The inspectors here are mostly plain clothed, swarm the vehicle and take no shit, not even from tourists
It's quite funny to watch when people get caught
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: Squiz1971 on December 11, 2016, 01:53:38 PM
What's happening with the travel card prices I take it they will go up a couple of quid in January?
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: markcf83 on December 11, 2016, 01:59:58 PM
What's the nBus day ticket going up to,if it's being increased at all?
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: Gareth on December 11, 2016, 02:42:32 PM
Swift monthly direct debit for nBus is increasing from £59 to £61.50
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: Steveminor on December 11, 2016, 10:39:21 PM
Day nbus up 20p off peak price frozen
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: JoNi on December 12, 2016, 01:27:15 PM
Funny, how the peak fares go up, after all they represent a captive audiance although it's usually presented as a way of reducing overcrowding.
Delayed boarding bus the other day at 7am when passenger in front of me asked for a £4 Daysaver!
Fares could have been frozen as I'm sure adoption of smartcards by NX will increase revenue.
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: Tony on December 12, 2016, 01:41:48 PM
Quote from: JoNi on December 12, 2016, 01:27:15 PM
Funny, how the peak fares go up, after all they represent a captive audiance although it's usually presented as a way of reducing overcrowding.
Delayed boarding bus the other day at 7am when passenger in front of me asked for a £4 Daysaver!
Fares could have been frozen as I'm sure adoption of smartcards by NX will increase revenue.

Why will the adoption of smart cards increase revenue? Every passenger that swaps will be paying less, and those people that currently overpay through not having the correct change will no longer overpay
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: markcf83 on December 12, 2016, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: Steveminor on December 11, 2016, 10:39:21 PM
Day nbus up 20p off peak price frozen

Thanks for that. Will be most helpful when I'm in Birmingham in May.
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: JoNi on December 12, 2016, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 12, 2016, 01:41:48 PM
Why will the adoption of smart cards increase revenue? Every passenger that swaps will be paying less, and those people that currently overpay through not having the correct change will no longer overpay

Out of date tickets (I think they are called products) on smartcards are immediately detected
End of scratchcards will collect more revenue from the likes of a female who sat opposite me on a 37 who scratched it off when the revenue squad boarded. She'd already done the year in advance!
Passback. A girl on 20 dropped her pass on floor so that a girl behind could pick it up and use it.
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: winston on December 16, 2016, 12:10:42 AM
E&S have picked up the story on the Jan fare increases, at least they've finally changed the picture.....
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport-news/2016/12/15/passengers-face-increase-in-fares-for-midland-metro-and-buses/
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: Gareth on December 16, 2016, 02:56:09 AM
Has the peak short hop been scrapped? I notice it now says £1.50 for off peak, but no mention of a peak time equivalent.
I'm also unclear of the city hop, is this just an increase from £1 to £1.50 at all times of day? Frozen on the Metro at £1 though 😃
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: Stu on December 16, 2016, 07:35:58 AM
Quote from: Westy on December 10, 2016, 01:12:32 PM
Is there an official link yet?

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/national-express-west-midlands-fares-changes-2017

Quote from: Gareth on December 16, 2016, 02:56:09 AM
Has the peak short hop been scrapped? I notice it now says £1.50 for off peak, but no mention of a peak time equivalent.
I'm also unclear of the city hop, is this just an increase from £1 to £1.50 at all times of day? Frozen on the Metro at £1 though 😃

The peak Short Hop was scrapped at the start of this year.
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: Gareth on December 16, 2016, 01:33:06 PM
And so it was! Thanks Stu. I wonder why I never noticed that last year. Possibly as I'd just got my swift card, so any kind of cash fare was irrelevant to me.
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: vinh1000 on December 17, 2016, 12:52:13 PM
Used to get City hop there and back and now it seems cheaper to get a monthly direct debit :-(
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: Stu on December 17, 2016, 01:18:15 PM
The people losing out are the ones who regularly buy cash fares and don't realise how much they could save by switching to weekly/monthly tickets instead.

My NX Regional Faresaver Direct Debit goes up £2 to £56.50 from next month.

£56.50 x 12 months = £678 for the year

£678 ÷ 52 weeks = £13.03 per week
£678 ÷ 364* days = £1.86 per day (*no services on Christmas Day of course)

To me, this still represents excellent value for money, considering I catch 2 buses every Monday to Friday to get to and from work, and then I'm still using buses at the weekend.
Title: Re: 2017 Fares
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on December 17, 2016, 10:40:44 PM
I remember when I was a uni student and I took advantage of NX's 12 month student pass which was like £3XX a year !

Steal of the century if you ask me !