So it illegal to run early? I didn't think it was.
It's not illegal as such, but the company will be penalised by the TC.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 19, 2015, 02:40:53 PM
So it illegal to run early? I didn't think it was.
Not illegal! Just not allowed. As the saying goes you can be on time.or.late but NEVER early when leaving a timing point
Quote from: WN on December 19, 2015, 05:57:52 PM
Not illegal! Just not allowed. As the saying goes you can be on time.or.late but NEVER early when leaving a timing point
And that is something a lot of passengers fail to understand, usually the ones pressing the stop bell while a bus is waiting to make up time when running early!
Quote from: WN on December 19, 2015, 05:57:52 PM
Not illegal! Just not allowed. As the saying goes you can be on time.or.late but NEVER early when leaving a timing point
The saying is you can have loads of excuses to run late, but none for early.
What if your being chased by an axe murdered, then can you run early? I've always wondered that lmao.
What about the riots in Birmingham 2011
Wait your time while bricks and looters coming attacking your bus.
So if the bus in front doesn't run you can't be instructed to run early to even out the gap in service?
Its awkward when the timing points are in places that you cause an obstruction because traffic cant pas
Quote from: BU07 LGO on December 21, 2015, 07:22:25 PM
Its awkward when the timing points are in places that you cause an obstruction because traffic cant pas
We've got a few of those. Three I can think of are
Streetly Road, Short Heath on the 28 both directions
Bromford Lane on the 914 City bound
33 Warren Farm Road/Hawthorn Road, Pheasey bound
Quote from: John on December 21, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
We've got a few of those. Three I can think of are
Streetly Road, Short Heath on the 28 both directions
Bromford Lane on the 914 City bound
33 Warren Farm Road/Hawthorn Road, Pheasey bound
The 51 is bad at perry barr train station, and Foley arms on the 937 Brownhills bound, the traffic queues up on to the island even when I put hazards on its hard to get round because there's always cars coming the other way!
997 by the drakes drum
The daisy bank timing point on the 82 got moved in January to two stops before as it was right infront of a set of traffic lights and caused a crap load of traffic.
Quote from: B10L1473 on December 20, 2015, 11:41:03 PM
What about the riots in Birmingham 2011
Wait your time while bricks and looters coming attacking your bus.
I was on corporation st at the time of the riots with riot police chasing the mob up corporation st, I had a drop back of several minutes when the city inspector approached me and told me to do one forget the time , I booted it out of city with me merc I drove to five ways and waited my time there.
Quote from: 2900 on December 22, 2015, 11:49:38 AM
I was on corporation st at the time of the riots with riot police chasing the mob up corporation st, I had a drop back of several minutes when the city inspector approached me and told me to do one forget the time , I booted it out of city with me merc I drove to five ways and waited my time there.
Imagine it with a E400. Wait for doors to close. Then a delay. Then the thing starts moving. More delay. Then you're up to 10mph and another delay as it changes gear. Then a delay when you press the horn to alert a pedestrian of your presence. Put your indicators on, more delay. Get what I'm saying here. Ha ha.
But riots are no laughing matter.
With the best will in the world, if I was a driver and I noticed what I perceived to be a threat to myself or any passengers on my bus, I'd move on
So what possible excuse could there be for a bus running early? Particularly from the start of the route (as per my 66 to work this morning, left at 07:37)
I ask as the response I got from the inspector was "his clock's probably different, they all run at different times"
!!!!
Surely that's a major problem if that was the case?
Quote from: Kevin on November 03, 2016, 08:01:40 AM
So what possible excuse could there be for a bus running early? Particularly from the start of the route (as per my 66 to work this morning, left at 07:37)
I ask as the response I got from the inspector was "his clock's probably different, they all run at different times"
!!!!
Surely that's a major problem if that was the case?
Alot of the wayfarers have different times to be fair bit if it's meant to be put down on the vcr
Quote from: Kevin on November 03, 2016, 08:01:40 AM
So what possible excuse could there be for a bus running early? Particularly from the start of the route (as per my 66 to work this morning, left at 07:37)
I ask as the response I got from the inspector was "his clock's probably different, they all run at different times"
!!!!
Surely that's a major problem if that was the case?
The tracking system has recorded it leaving at 7:39:31
When a vehicle is tracked, where is the time generated from?
GPS?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 03, 2016, 12:05:43 PM
When a vehicle is tracked, where is the time generated from?
GPS?
Yes
Quote from: Tony on November 03, 2016, 08:32:23 AM
The tracking system has recorded it leaving at 7:39:31
So does that mean every other bus leaves 2 mins late then? Because it was definitely 07:37 by every other measurement of time
In the time between it leaving and my version of 07:40, I had time to walk up from the corner of Moor Street Queensway, watch it come back down the hill, argue with him that he was early, board the 65, ask the driver what time it was, go and query the incident with the inspector at the top and board the 65 again
I'd be willing to bet that the GPS has the bus as being stationary on the other side of the road at that particular time
It's not uncommon to have a wayfarer with the wrong time, I always check it when I get on