9 Birmingham- Halesowen-Stourbridge -hagley -Kidderminster at ,least 1 a hour or even 1 ever half hour
the 142 the same just missing out birminghan
Quote from: Ced on January 17, 2015, 10:18:30 PM
9 Birmingham- Halesowen-Stourbridge -hagley -Kidderminster at ,least 1 a hour or even 1 ever half hour
the 142 the same just missing out birminghan
Won't happen, at least the 9 one won't, NXWM are reluctant to operate outside of the nBus zone, and given that Hagley and Kidderminster are out of said zone, it's unlikely that they would extend any services into that zone, as well as possibly messing about with 9 could do damage further along the route, on one of the most established routes that they operate. As well as these, the journey time would be increased and would require a higher PVR than current, which would mean Pensnett would need more resources. So all in all, it would be a very unfeasible proposition, at least for NXWM.
I have no idea about the 142, so can't go into detail about it
Dont understand this reluctance to operate outside the NBus zone.
They still operate the main service in Wombourne, plus they still operate a regular service to Burntwood from Walsall.
Wombourne is unavoidable as its on the Wolves to Stourbridge route, but even Arriva & Chase before it had a go between Walsall & Burntwood & where are they now!
I can't see much need for it, they can get the 192 into halesowen then 9 to birmingham
Or 318 and 125 to stourbridge, then 9 to birmingham
Anyone from Birmingham to Hagley is going to use the half hourly train anyway.
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That's quite apart from probably destroying the economics of the Kidderminster-Bridgnorth section of the 125
To extend the 142 to Hagley wouldn't be commercially viable as the market is currently only able to support the commercial 318.
The 9 suffers timekeeping issues at peak/shoulder peak times so to extend to Hagley would make it worse.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 18, 2015, 02:07:03 PM
I can't see much need for it, they can get the 192 into halesowen then 9 to birmingham
Or 318 and 125 to stourbridge, then 9 to birmingham
Or take the train, 4 an hour
Quote from: Matt on January 18, 2015, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on January 18, 2015, 09:15:09 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 18, 2015, 02:07:03 PM
I can't see much need for it, they can get the 192 into halesowen then 9 to birmingham
Or 318 and 125 to stourbridge, then 9 to birmingham
Or take the train, 4 an hour
2/3 an hour from Hagley, 2 from Blakedown
I know. I was thinking of Kidderminster for some reason, tired (it's 3tph to Hagley)
Quote from: Westy on January 18, 2015, 08:47:30 AM
Dont understand this reluctance to operate outside the NBus zone.
They still operate the main service in Wombourne, plus they still operate a regular service to Burntwood from Walsall.
Wombourne is unavoidable as its on the Wolves to Stourbridge route, but even Arriva & Chase before it had a go between Walsall & Burntwood & where are they now!
Back when bus deregulation first took place, it didn't stop Travel West Midlands from operating outside the West Midlands and WMPTE area, they used to operate evening journeys on the 318 to Redditch & i am sure they operated other services to.
Quote from: Matt on January 18, 2015, 11:06:51 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on January 18, 2015, 10:10:17 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 18, 2015, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on January 18, 2015, 09:15:09 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 18, 2015, 02:07:03 PM
I can't see much need for it, they can get the 192 into halesowen then 9 to birmingham
Or 318 and 125 to stourbridge, then 9 to birmingham
Or take the train, 4 an hour
2/3 an hour from Hagley, 2 from Blakedown
I know. I was thinking of Kidderminster for some reason, tired (it's 3tph to Hagley)
It's 3 most hours but 2 some, hence why I said 2/3
It's only 2 per hour early mornings really, it's probably hourly more(evenings and Sundays) Than half hourly
Its three an hour from 1000-1800 to Kiddeminster, and even longer the other way, since they gained a through Worcester service in December.
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Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 18, 2015, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 18, 2015, 08:47:30 AM
Dont understand this reluctance to operate outside the NBus zone.
They still operate the main service in Wombourne, plus they still operate a regular service to Burntwood from Walsall.
Wombourne is unavoidable as its on the Wolves to Stourbridge route, but even Arriva & Chase before it had a go between Walsall & Burntwood & where are they now!
Back when bus deregulation first took place, it didn't stop Travel West Midlands from operating outside the West Midlands and WMPTE area, they used to operate evening journeys on the 318 to Redditch & i am sure they operated other services to.
*Cough* X20 to Stratford *Cough*(am i right?)
@Stuharris 6360
Quote from: clayderman on January 20, 2015, 09:16:52 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 18, 2015, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 18, 2015, 08:47:30 AM
Dont understand this reluctance to operate outside the NBus zone.
They still operate the main service in Wombourne, plus they still operate a regular service to Burntwood from Walsall.
Wombourne is unavoidable as its on the Wolves to Stourbridge route, but even Arriva & Chase before it had a go between Walsall & Burntwood & where are they now!
Back when bus deregulation first took place, it didn't stop Travel West Midlands from operating outside the West Midlands and WMPTE area, they used to operate evening journeys on the 318 to Redditch & i am sure they operated other services to.
*Cough* X20 to Stratford *Cough*
(am i right?) @Stuharris 6360
X92, I seem to recall a glossy leaflet promoting a summer Sunday service!
Quote from: Westy on January 20, 2015, 09:49:09 PM
Quote from: clayderman on January 20, 2015, 09:16:52 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 18, 2015, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 18, 2015, 08:47:30 AM
Dont understand this reluctance to operate outside the NBus zone.
They still operate the main service in Wombourne, plus they still operate a regular service to Burntwood from Walsall.
Wombourne is unavoidable as its on the Wolves to Stourbridge route, but even Arriva & Chase before it had a go between Walsall & Burntwood & where are they now!
Back when bus deregulation first took place, it didn't stop Travel West Midlands from operating outside the West Midlands and WMPTE area, they used to operate evening journeys on the 318 to Redditch & i am sure they operated other services to.
*Cough* X20 to Stratford *Cough*
(am i right?) @Stuharris 6360
X92, I seem to recall a glossy leaflet promoting a summer Sunday service!
The X92 used to be between Birmingham and Hereford via Kidderminster and Ludlow, as a picture of the timetable is in a book i have on WMPTE
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 20, 2015, 09:54:52 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 20, 2015, 09:49:09 PM
Quote from: clayderman on January 20, 2015, 09:16:52 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 18, 2015, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 18, 2015, 08:47:30 AM
Dont understand this reluctance to operate outside the NBus zone.
They still operate the main service in Wombourne, plus they still operate a regular service to Burntwood from Walsall.
Wombourne is unavoidable as its on the Wolves to Stourbridge route, but even Arriva & Chase before it had a go between Walsall & Burntwood & where are they now!
Back when bus deregulation first took place, it didn't stop Travel West Midlands from operating outside the West Midlands and WMPTE area, they used to operate evening journeys on the 318 to Redditch & i am sure they operated other services to.
*Cough* X20 to Stratford *Cough*
(am i right?) @Stuharris 6360
X92, I seem to recall a glossy leaflet promoting a summer Sunday service!
The X92 used to be between Birmingham and Hereford via Kidderminster and Ludlow, as a picture of the timetable is in a book i have on WMPTE
Yes i am sure that the X92 & X20 were operated, and numerous Travel West Midlands early morning journeys especially on Sundays were operated by Midland Red West.
Correct
@clayderman :) TWM did indeed used to operate the Sunday X20 (Late 90's into early 2000's iirc) with Spectra's.
From my neck of the woods NX runs 11 to Kenilworth and Leamington and 20 to Bedworth, a couple of significant towns in Warwickshire.
It starts getting awkward and confusing when normals have no notion of Centro pass boundaries and such, additional £2.20 and £2.40 single fares, child concessions are two-thirds, the Warks Conc pass starts at 9am, then those few select locations over the border where Centro tickets are valid - Keresley Village and Baginton/Middlemarch. Have I missed anything out? ::)
Having all that to contend with would be a general reason why NX wants to steer clear of the shires.
Quote from: Nathan on January 20, 2015, 10:00:41 PM
Correct @clayderman :) TWM did indeed used to operate the Sunday X20 (Late 90's into early 2000's iirc) with Spectra's.
Third photo down
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4008.html
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2015, 09:39:20 AM
Quote from: Nathan on January 20, 2015, 10:00:41 PM
Correct @clayderman :) TWM did indeed used to operate the Sunday X20 (Late 90's into early 2000's iirc) with Spectra's.
Third photo down
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4008.html
Cracking photo and really smart route branding. That's how I remember the Spectras.
Quote from: Mike K on February 12, 2015, 07:19:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2015, 09:39:20 AM
Quote from: Nathan on January 20, 2015, 10:00:41 PM
Correct @clayderman :) TWM did indeed used to operate the Sunday X20 (Late 90's into early 2000's iirc) with Spectra's.
Third photo down
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4008.html
Cracking photo and really smart route branding. That's how I remember the Spectras.
Nothing can ever replace the TWM Cosmos logo, it's by far the best out there - I will certainly miss the Spectras when they go, no pun intended, so I ought to get myself down to Wolverhampton within the next week...