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Title: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: fleetline6477 on June 27, 2014, 10:10:50 PM
I'm aware that some depots run the odd journey on routes operated by other depots, often in peak times.

Two examples

BC operate 2 a.m. peak journey on 9E Halesowen - Birmingham before taking up 829 school services

WB operate 1 bus on peak morning 140E Blackheath - Dudley followed by 1 round trip on 140 and 241.

What other journeys are people aware of?
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: notepanel on June 27, 2014, 10:19:47 PM
BC operate the 966 0717 ex Clock Garage into Solihull. This bus then goes on to the 97 and is quite often a branded vehicle.

Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: the trainbasher on June 27, 2014, 10:24:15 PM
Do PE still do a early morning 256E Wall Heath/K'ford to Stourbridge?
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: monkeyjoe on June 27, 2014, 10:30:46 PM
 BY on the 70 school journeys. According the NXWM website PB operate journeys on it to, wondering if that is an error.
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: lynx1103 on June 28, 2014, 12:12:25 AM
Do PB still do any peak time workings on 11A/11C
They used to years ago
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Sh4318 on June 28, 2014, 12:14:30 AM
WB run the 289(E) on Sundays. BC run a journey on the 966, using a bus that goes onto the 97
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Stu on June 28, 2014, 10:37:47 AM
I don't know if it's still the case any more, but YW sometimes operated one of the 5A morning journeys.
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: John on June 28, 2014, 10:41:11 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 28, 2014, 12:12:25 AM
Do PB still do any peak time workings on 11A/11C
They used to years ago

I don't think so anymore
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Mike K on June 29, 2014, 08:52:07 AM
There's the morning peak trips that WB does on the 140/241. Not sure whether that will remain after the next service changes though.
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Sayeed on June 29, 2014, 09:00:06 AM
BC does 50 on afternoon peak journeys (?)
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Liverpool Street on June 29, 2014, 11:59:44 AM
Quote from: Sayeed on June 29, 2014, 09:00:06 AM
BC does 50 on afternoon peak journeys (?)

Nope.
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Steve3229vp on June 29, 2014, 01:06:26 PM
I've often wondered why this isn't done more widely to save fuel/dead mileage,  e.g  buses on PB's 28 route that start and finish at Bordesley Green or Small Heath should be run by BY instead maybe ?
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on June 29, 2014, 01:10:19 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on June 29, 2014, 01:06:26 PM
I've often wondered why this isn't done more widely to save fuel/dead mileage,  e.g  buses on PB's 28 route that start and finish at Bordesley Green or Small Heath should be run by BY instead maybe ?

This is what happened years ago, but now with fewer depots it is now not so possible. Plus garages like to be responsible for the whole of a route, i suppose it is easier for monitoring revenue/passenger numbers! Remember when the 79 used to be operated by Wolverhampton, West Bromwich & Hockley, the 9 by Quinton & Stourbridge & so on.
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Tony on June 29, 2014, 01:24:05 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on June 29, 2014, 01:06:26 PM
I've often wondered why this isn't done more widely to save fuel/dead mileage,  e.g  buses on PB's 28 route that start and finish at Bordesley Green or Small Heath should be run by BY instead maybe ?

Remember also that a board that starts at Bordesley Green may finish at the Scott Arms, so moving that board may actually increase dead mileage
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 05, 2014, 09:56:50 PM
WB on the 141 from 20th July
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on July 05, 2014, 10:00:17 PM
Didn't at one time, PE operate some journies on the 87, may have just been drivers, but can't remember.
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 05, 2014, 10:14:16 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 05, 2014, 10:00:17 PM
Didn't at one time, PE operate some journies on the 87, may have just been drivers, but can't remember.

Wasn't that to do with the tunnels?  I might be completley wrong but i'm sure i saw on here that some garages had buses on standby in Brum to fill in any big gaps in service. I'm sure a WN Trident made it onto the 51?
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on July 05, 2014, 10:24:43 PM
I don't think so @Nathan, sure this was a few years ago.
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: trident4370 on July 05, 2014, 10:29:07 PM
Pretty sure at one point AG did some 49 journeys and YW did some 37 journeys.
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: fleetline6477 on February 12, 2015, 07:15:30 PM
The WB depot thread says that a WB running board has a short peak working on 6E Walsall to Aldridge at 0800.

WB also provide a peak running board on 140 / 241.

What other depots run journeys on routes operated by other depots and to what times do these operate?
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: notepanel on February 12, 2015, 07:34:27 PM
BY operate the 70E school service (Park Hall School - Ward End). This departs at 1509 ex Park Hall School.

BC also operate a couple of early morning 9 journeys. I believe these are the 0714 & 0724 ex Halesowen and 0847 & 0856 ex Quinton.

I believe the 838 school service is operated jointly by PB & BY - but stand to be corrected!
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on February 12, 2015, 07:40:23 PM
PE operate a couple of peak hour journeys on the 256E between Wallheath/Kingswinford and Stourbridge.
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Sayeed on February 12, 2015, 07:53:18 PM
Quote from: fleetline6477 on February 12, 2015, 07:15:30 PM
The WB depot thread says that a WB running board has a short peak working on 6E Walsall to Aldridge at 0800.

WB also provide a peak running board on 140 / 241.

What other depots run journeys on routes operated by other depots and to what times do these operate?

You might add those details to your previous topic ;)
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=2989.0

Thanks Sayeed, merged, due to yet another duplicate thread, Winston
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: spudnick on February 12, 2015, 09:44:58 PM
Quote from: Stu on June 28, 2014, 10:37:47 AM
I don't know if it's still the case any more, but YW sometimes operated one of the 5A morning journeys.

They used to operate one round trip Monkspath - City, City - Solihull but this reverted to AG at 2-3 years ago.
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: fleetline6477 on February 12, 2015, 09:58:25 PM
Quote from: Sayeed on February 12, 2015, 07:53:18 PM
Quote from: fleetline6477 on February 12, 2015, 07:15:30 PM
The WB depot thread says that a WB running board has a short peak working on 6E Walsall to Aldridge at 0800.

WB also provide a peak running board on 140 / 241.

What other depots run journeys on routes operated by other depots and to what times do these operate?

You might add those details to your previous topic ;)
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=2989.0

Thanks Sayeed, merged, due to yet another duplicate thread, Winston

So sorry, guys. I completely forgot I'd already started the thread a while back.
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Tara4352 on February 15, 2015, 04:34:26 PM
Once before when WB had 823 I saw it on a 289
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Trident 4609 on February 15, 2015, 04:41:50 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on February 15, 2015, 04:34:26 PM
Once before when WB had 823 I saw it on a 289

Was this on a Sunday by any chance?  Before it was re-extended back to MH, the Sunday 289E's were operated by WB garage.
Title: Re: Journeys on other depot's routes
Post by: Tara4352 on February 15, 2015, 04:56:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 15, 2015, 04:41:50 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on February 15, 2015, 04:34:26 PM
Once before when WB had 823 I saw it on a 289

Was this on a Sunday by any chance?  Before it was re-extended back to MH, the Sunday 289E's were operated by WB garage.
😉😉 No it wasn't actually as I was on the retail park at oldbury and it said 289 WEST BROMWICH