i just heard on bbc wm that the 50 is running thru the night
Also, does anyone know anything about the 50 stops that have appeared on Brandwood Road (Towards Vicarage Road)??
Quote from: jnl1984 on June 10, 2014, 09:56:07 PM
Also, does anyone know anything about the 50 stops that have appeared on Brandwood Road (Towards Vicarage Road)??
TGB certain trips only
It is something to do with TGB... Could be because there is a 50X now, not to be confused with the Johnsons X50, that serves Yardley Wood, which I think is the reason for those stops by the garage having 50 on, and there is also a new 50Y service that uses Brandwood road BUT it terminates at King Edward school, whereas the 50 marked bus stops continue to Kings Heath down Vicarage Road (basically every stop that is served by the 69). I personally just assume it is another Centro cock up as these are both school services. http://www.thegreenbus.co.uk/bus_services/school/schools/14-15/ (See Woodrush School). Let's face it though this obsession with using the number "50" on every route, it is no wonder people are confused...
Also the 50s that carry on to Wythall at peaks seem to just flash Wythall up for a couple of seconds then carry on with the usual tickets and prices display, and the one I saw wasn't displaying 50A but just 50 so it would be easy for someone to let the Wythall bus carry on past them without realising.
Yes, I spotted these and agree they are to do with the 50Y school service.
I would say TGB should have used a different number, as it is bound to get confusing with a 50/50A/50X/50Y/X50 now operating, although the 50X and 50Y do take completely different routes between Kings Heath and the Maypole
http://b14kingsheath.net/profiles/blogs/kings-heath-50-bus-night-bus-service
Well this has been implemented a lot quicker than I imagined, wonder which corridor's next for a night service if this one's successful? Would personally like to see a 0333 departure from city, if you leave Broad Street (ew) at three, it would take you half an hour to stumble over to Moor Street
Quote from: Russ Smith on June 15, 2014, 08:30:34 AM
Well this has been implemented a lot quicker than I imagined, wonder which corridor's next for a night service if this one's successful? Would personally like to see a 0333 departure from city, if you leave Broad Street (ew) at three, it would take you half an hour to stumble over to Moor Street
I'd like to see this implemented on the 61 or 63 next, and surely the 9 has to be a strong contender, even if only as far as Halesowen
Hurrahs and huzzahs, progress...
Maybe one day we will be back to having a proper network of night buses on all the major routes. Can but hope...
In the late 90's they used to have departures from Broad street on most major corridors. I also remember when their was a trial by Lea Hall on the 94/97 n that used to run along Smallbrook Queensway ( only 2 nights buses at that particular time). In addition the trial used to run thur- sun. Didn't last that long from memory.
97A Must be going down well then if the night buses are slowly returning, I for one am delighted about the 50.
Is the 50 the right choice for the next 24 hour service? Fair enough there are a number of pubs and restaurants etc along the route and the city itself but beyond Kings Heath up to Maypole it's all tower blocks and I personally don't know anybody who'd stand on the Alcester Road at 3am for a bus, it's unnerving enough in the day sometimes.
I think the 9, 126 or a 904E would still be better contenders as they connect major places rather than just enter the lions den
I think they have picked the 50 as it brings in the most revenue.
It's a shame only 2 routes so far are benefiting from night services and people who live in all other areas who go out for a night out are forced to pay high taxi fares. The taxi drivers in this city must be rubbing their hands with glee.
London, Manchester, Oxford, Edinburgh and probably others have had night services for years, yet the 2nd city has to make do with just one and another in the pipeline, while all other routes finish around midnight.
personally I would make nightbuses (hourly minimum) on the 50 as far as maypole, 97 to airport, 9 as far as halesowen, Bristol Road (but merge the 61 and 63 for that so it does a one way loop serving both parts of the 61/63), 126 (probably to Dudley minimum), Pershore road (similar to how I suggested the Bristol Road), 900, 904, 957 and maybe 51
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 15, 2014, 03:43:30 PM
personally I would make nightbuses (hourly minimum) on the 50 as far as maypole, 97 to airport, 9 as far as halesowen, Bristol Road (but merge the 61 and 63 for that so it does a one way loop serving both parts of the 61/63), 126 (probably to Dudley minimum), Pershore road (similar to how I suggested the Bristol Road), 900, 904, 957 and maybe 51
The last 45 from town runs near empty every night mate so I doubt Pershore Road should be a contender.
"The last 45 from town runs near empty every night mate so I doubt Pershore Road should be a contender."
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That is mainly as the times have only recently changed. A lot of people still think the last bus is a 47 leaving town at 00:03, when in fact there is another bus, a 45 leaving town at 00:18.
the last Pershore Rd bus is usually well used, even more so on Friday and Saturday nights.
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on June 15, 2014, 04:03:00 PM
"The last 45 from town runs near empty every night mate so I doubt Pershore Road should be a contender."
That is mainly as the times have only recently changed. A lot of people still think the last bus is a 47 leaving town at 00:03, when in fact there is another bus, a 45 leaving town at 00:18.
the last Pershore Rd bus is usually well used, even more so on Friday and Saturday nights.
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Oh, I stand corrected! Cheers fella.
Due to the shifts I work at weekends, I currently spend around £80-100 a month on taxis. Last week I actually finished late enough to get the first 14 home.
So for purely selfish reasons, if NX want to put on a 24hour service on any of the Saltley bound buses, I'd be very grateful! :)
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 15, 2014, 03:43:30 PM
personally I would make nightbuses (hourly minimum) on the 50 as far as maypole, 97 to airport, 9 as far as halesowen, Bristol Road (but merge the 61 and 63 for that so it does a one way loop serving both parts of the 61/63), 126 (probably to Dudley minimum), Pershore road (similar to how I suggested the Bristol Road), 900, 904, 957 and maybe 51
That's a really good suggestion running the 61/63 and the 45/47 as a loop. Though, I suspect that even if they only ran as far as Northfield / Cotteridge it would be welcomed.
Possible something on the 74 (as far as West Bromwich), and 37 as well.
not related to the new night service but is related to the 50 http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/birmingham-bus-door-shot-at-7270255
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/the-247-service-50-
Quote from: Sh4318 on July 06, 2014, 08:41:15 PM
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/the-247-service-50-
So is it terminating at Maypole during the night then?
Quote from: John on July 06, 2014, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on July 06, 2014, 08:41:15 PM
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/the-247-service-50-
So is it terminating at Maypole during the night then?
Probably done to make sure it can be operated by one bus
I wonder if extra journeys will be added on Sunday morning/Saturday night. According to the NX Bus link, the last 50 on a Saturday night will be:
0403 from Moor St
0329 from Maypole
The first 50 on a Sunday morning is:
0600 from Moor St
0611 from Kings Heath/0636 from Maypole
That leaves a gap of approx. 2 hours between services on Saturday night/Sunday morning
We'll be providing the new service every hour starting at 01:03 from Moor St in Birmingham the city centre followed by services at 02:03, 03:03 and 04:03, so if you tired of paying for expensive taxis or ringing up home in the early hours, we've got your return journey from work, a night out or a late night train journey sorted.
Don't worry, there's no inspectors out at that hour so free rides all round.
In fact, why not put "Free Service 50" on the front?
Quote from: Tony on July 06, 2014, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: John on July 06, 2014, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on July 06, 2014, 08:41:15 PM
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/the-247-service-50-
So is it terminating at Maypole during the night then?
Probably done to make sure it can be operated by one bus
I recall quite a few other services on the old night bus networks terminated short of their daytime terminus to allow for single bus operation, e.g. 62 to Longbridge, 45 to Man on the Moon etc
Quote from: Mike K on July 06, 2014, 10:02:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 06, 2014, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: John on July 06, 2014, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on July 06, 2014, 08:41:15 PM
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/the-247-service-50-
So is it terminating at Maypole during the night then?
Probably done to make sure it can be operated by one bus
I recall quite a few other services on the old night bus networks terminated short of their daytime terminus to allow for single bus operation, e.g. 62 to Longbridge, 45 to Man on the Moon etc
At least the running time should be possible, unlike the X64 which is one bus operation from about 9pm till last bus, hourly - 24minutes Corporation Street to Woodcock Hill. Regularly late. I'm sure
@Tony can back me up on this.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 06, 2014, 10:57:50 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 06, 2014, 10:02:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 06, 2014, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: John on July 06, 2014, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on July 06, 2014, 08:41:15 PM
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/the-247-service-50-
So is it terminating at Maypole during the night then?
Probably done to make sure it can be operated by one bus
I recall quite a few other services on the old night bus networks terminated short of their daytime terminus to allow for single bus operation, e.g. 62 to Longbridge, 45 to Man on the Moon etc
At least the running time should be possible, unlike the X64 which is one bus operation from about 9pm till last bus, hourly - 24minutes Corporation Street to Woodcock Hill. Regularly late. I'm sure @Tony can back me up on this.
That does sound extremely tight. You'd need a Leyland Lynx to stand a chance of keeping to time there. Actually a Lynx on the X64 = a 921.
There was a white vehicle with a billboard on the back of it advertising the new night service for the 50, seen it about 5 mins ago near Kings Heath
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F2ykatub.jpg&hash=cdfe6572c50130349f7682b1afeaee9f58e7f972)
This the one?
Quote from: trident4370 on July 08, 2014, 01:10:45 AM
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F2ykatub.jpg&hash=cdfe6572c50130349f7682b1afeaee9f58e7f972)
This the one?
Yeah :D
The timetable is viewable on NWM:
http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&hideBannerInfo=1&command=direct&line=33050&net=cen&project=y11&sup=A&lineVer=5&itdLPxx_direction=H&itdLPxx_line=33050&itdLPxx_net=cen&itdLPxx_project=y11&itdLPxx_sup=A&itdLPxx_lineVer=5&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_debug=
Just wondering, how's this night service doing for timekeeping and patronage? Also - are journeys labelled on the blinds as 50, 50N (or N50) or 50E? Would be great if somebody has a picture!
50 quality from the past!
Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2014, 08:32:20 PM
50 quality from the past!
More here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Bc3xxNcxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE8SAYn0ENM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhq1zjZy8-Q
Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2014, 08:32:20 PM
50 quality from the past!
The fleetnumber on that is ironic!