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Title: Service changes from end of April
Post by: winston on March 05, 2014, 10:03:51 AM
PD0000478/194 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH

Variation Accepted: Operating between CANNOCK BUS STATION and STAFFORDSHIRE UNIVERSITY given service number 75/74 effective from 26-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/393 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH

    Registration Accepted
    Starting Point: LICHFIELD
    Finish Point: TAMWORTH
    Via: Upper John St, Hopwas Hill, Tamworth
    Service Number: X65
    Service Type: Normal Stopping
    Effective Date: 28-APR-2014
    Other Details: Monday to Saturday, Half hourly AM/PM Peak times and Hourly off Peak. No service Sundays or Bank Holiday Mondays

Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Bob on March 05, 2014, 12:11:20 PM
Why an express service to tamworth? ?? It only takes half hour any way
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: winston on March 05, 2014, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: bob on March 05, 2014, 12:11:20 PM
Why an express service to tamworth? ?? It only takes half hour any way

I assume it is in response to Central Buses X55 which must be having an effect of Arriva's takings
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Bob on March 05, 2014, 01:25:37 PM
Theyd be better off competing on the X12. Arriva lichfield to burton route take a ridiculous amount of time. I bwt they're kickin thereselves they never thought of it first lol. Wonder what theyre changing on the stafford services. ...
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Bob on March 05, 2014, 01:27:16 PM
When mid staffs is dissolved most people from cannock will be going to new cross hospital for appts as theyre takingover ccannock hospital.  So maybe the 68 will gain in importance
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Cheese on March 05, 2014, 04:59:51 PM
Think the 74/75 change is a cancellation of the 74A. X65 very much a response against the X55...
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Bob on March 05, 2014, 06:44:00 PM
Lol the 74a was stupidly timed. Surely a regular 20min service would of been better
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: andy on March 05, 2014, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 05, 2014, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: bob on March 05, 2014, 12:11:20 PM
Why an express service to tamworth? ?? It only takes half hour any way

I assume it is in response to Central Buses X55 which must be having an effect of Arriva's takings

This is why the bus industry is screwed. The minute an operator comes along with an innovative and quality idea, the status quo can too easily flex their muscles and run loss leaders to get rid of them. They will start undercutting on fares and dispose of the competition then reduce the service and increase the fares again once the competition is eradicated.  Only large corporate players can afford to do this and as long as that is the case nothing will ever progress.
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Bob on March 05, 2014, 10:46:26 PM
Yep pity someone doesnt do it to arriva on the Walsall 1 :)
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: winston on March 06, 2014, 04:36:28 PM
PD0000374/144 - STEVENSONS OF UTTOXETER LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, 4 WESTMORELAND, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stone, Granvill Square and Stone, Granvill Square given service number 1/2/3 effective from 28-Apr-2014.

PD0000374/165 - STEVENSONS OF UTTOXETER LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, 4 WESTMORELAND, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Uttoxeter Bus Station and Derby Bus Station given service number X50A effective from 28-Apr-2014.

PD0000374/166 - STEVENSONS OF UTTOXETER LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, 4 WESTMORELAND, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Hanley Bus Station and Uttoxeter Bus Station given service number X50 effective from 28-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0000374/176 - STEVENSONS OF UTTOXETER LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, 4 WESTMORELAND, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stone and Stone Schools given service number 494 effective from 28-Apr-2014.

PD0000374/178 - STEVENSONS OF UTTOXETER LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, 4 WESTMORELAND, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Hanley and Cranberry given service number 190 effective from 28-Apr-2014.

PD0000478/295 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Cancellation Accepted: Operating between STAFFORD and WOLVERHAMPTON given service number 88/88A/88B effective from 28-Apr-2014.

PD0000478/298 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Chell Road and Church Eaton, Royal Oak given service number 482 effective from 28-Apr-2014.

PD0000478/300 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Pitcher Bank and Hixon, Bank House given service number 841 effective from 28-Apr-2014.

PD0000478/301 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Chell Road and Hixon, Bank House given service number 5/5A effective from 28-Apr-2014.

PD0000478/366 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Burton Upon Trent (New Street) and Lichfield Bus Station given service number 7/7A/7E/813 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/370 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Uttoxeter Bus Station and Uttoxeter Bus Station given service number 4 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.



Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Bob on March 06, 2014, 06:59:48 PM
Looks like theyve lost a shedload of stafford services jeez...could it spell the end of the mpd dart in stafford lol? Are all the derby trips on the X50 going?  So itll run between hanley and Uttoxeter only?
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Tony on March 06, 2014, 07:27:14 PM
Quote from: bob on March 06, 2014, 06:59:48 PM
Looks like theyve lost a shedload of stafford services jeez...could it spell the end of the mpd dart in stafford lol? Are all the derby trips on the X50 going?  So itll run between hanley and Uttoxeter only?

The Stafford services are deregistered because they are all tendered services and the next round of tendering has not been announced yet so Arriva need to deregister them in case they do not win them again as the change date is coming up to the 56 day deadline. If Arriva do win the renewed tender, which is still a strong possibility they will be reregistered under short notice registrations
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Bob on March 06, 2014, 07:48:29 PM
Yea or will they be that desperate for exclusivity in stafford like they were in stafford theyll throw the dummy out again?
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: pb2012 on March 21, 2014, 07:28:17 PM
Route 19 being cut short to operate between Walsall & Blowich only,Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere?
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 21, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on March 21, 2014, 07:28:17 PM
Route 19 being cut short to operate between Walsall & Blowich only,Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere?

Yes it has :)
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Westy on March 21, 2014, 08:53:23 PM
That 19 is always changing for one reason or another.

Compared with Nx Walsall 29 which I seem to recall has not changed at all since the North Walsall Review.

Don't remember the old 319 changing that much under Twm/Nx.
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Bob on March 21, 2014, 08:55:48 PM
Its cos its failed and fallen flat on its face lol like most things arriva midlands do....
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Rob H on March 21, 2014, 09:26:28 PM
IMO I can understand them ceratailing the 19 because not many people use the 19 between Walsall & Bloxwich I've noticed it a couple of times when I caught it I was the only passenger on the bus between Walsall & Bloxwich.
Title: Re: Service changes from end of April
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 21, 2014, 09:38:02 PM
Quote from: Rob H on March 21, 2014, 09:26:28 PM
IMO I can understand them ceratailing the 19 because not many people use the 19 between Walsall & Bloxwich I've noticed it a couple of times when I caught it I was the only passenger on the bus between Walsall & Bloxwich.

But it is operating between Walsall and Bloxwich only Rob :)