The expected allocation of the batch of Pulsars due soon has been posted on The Arriva midlands North Yahoo group
3770 - 3775 Burton
3776 - 3778 Coalville (Thurmaston)
3779 - 3785 Cannock
3786 - 3792 Oswestry
3793 - 3798 Telford
All planned to receive registrations starting FL63 xxx
From what I'm told, the ones for Burton/Leicester are for the 9/9A, the ones at Cannock are for Pye Greens, the ones at Telford are for 481 so what are the ones at Oswestry for?
Crikey imagine em going up Bradbury lane lol SCREEEEEAAAAAAAMMMM
Quote from: bob on November 04, 2013, 10:30:04 PM
Crikey imagine em going up Bradbury lane lol SCREEEEEAAAAAAAMMMM
Are you all there, bob?
They do scream at the slightest need to pick up speed?
So do a lot of things Voith, it doesn't mean they are struggling!
Yea but volvo b10b/voith etc arent underpowered lightweight buses...
There are HUNDREDS of them in Merseyside! Not all of the following are based in Merseyside, but many are- Arriva NW and Cymru have 2620-2700 and 2900-3155.
All Voith gearboxed screamers!
sconehead85
Do you rate them?
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 04, 2013, 09:57:56 PM
From what I'm told, the ones for Burton/Leicester are for the 9/9A, the ones at Cannock are for Pye Greens, the ones at Telford are for 481 so what are the ones at Oswestry for?
Oswestry have two main routes, the 70 to Shrewsbury and the 2 group to Wrexham. The 70 received four new 'long' Versas 3696-99 last year so I think the new Pulsars will be for the 2 replacing the 4 ex North West DAFs 2737/40-2 and Darts 2378-9 which have been the regulars on this route for many years.
Quote from: trident4370 on November 04, 2013, 11:18:29 PM
So do a lot of things Voith, it doesn't mean they are struggling!
I'd give up Joe. You'll never win!
Maybe the 04 plate cadets and the 2 55 plate darts will go shrewsbury or stafford?
Hey I never said they were crap buses, theyre not. Just a bit underpowered lol
Quote from: John on November 05, 2013, 08:56:30 AM
Quote from: trident4370 on November 04, 2013, 11:18:29 PM
So do a lot of things Voith, it doesn't mean they are struggling!
I'd give up Joe. You'll never win!
I think you may be right!
Quote from: cheshire exile on November 05, 2013, 07:10:02 AM
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 04, 2013, 09:57:56 PM
From what I'm told, the ones for Burton/Leicester are for the 9/9A, the ones at Cannock are for Pye Greens, the ones at Telford are for 481 so what are the ones at Oswestry for?
Oswestry have two main routes, the 70 to Shrewsbury and the 2 group to Wrexham. The 70 received four new 'long' Versas 3696-99 last year so I think the new Pulsars will be for the 2 replacing the 4 ex North West DAFs 2737/40-2 and Darts 2378-9 which have been the regulars on this route for many years.
That is correct, they are for Oswestry 2/2A etc.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 04, 2013, 10:31:53 PM
Quote from: bob on November 04, 2013, 10:30:04 PM
Crikey imagine em going up Bradbury lane lol SCREEEEEAAAAAAAMMMM
Are you all there, bob?
I've wondered that myself.
Here we go with the bitching...carry on girls xx
On behalf of the moderators, I'd just like to say, let's stop this "bitching" now, before it turns into another flame war ;)
I didnt say anything remotely bitchy :)
if the ones bound for telford are to go onto the 481 whats going to happen to the current versas (that never actually seem to be on the 481)?
Plus I have also herd that telford are ment to be getting more citaros to go onto the 44 so what would happen to the current pulsars on that.....
Commanders any day ;)
When will these new Pulsar's be in service?
Quote from: Tony on November 04, 2013, 08:37:16 PM
The expected allocation of the batch of Pulsars due soon has been posted on The Arriva midlands North Yahoo group
3770 - 3775 Burton
3776 - 3778 Coalville (Thurmaston)
3779 - 3785 Cannock
3786 - 3792 Oswestry
3793 - 3798 Telford
All planned to receive registrations starting FL63 xxx
3770 has now arrived at Heysham Docks
http://malsfotofile.smugmug.com/HeyshamDocks/Arriva/28032174_Vd8bWH#!i=2896274640&k=dR6FfhL&lb=1&s=A
Are the ones for the 9 going to have dp seats like the x38 ones? The 9/29 is a really long route and used to have coaches years ago I think
3776 - FL63 DXG
3777 - FL63 DXH
Have both arrived at Derby Garage, they are the same spec as the X38 Pulsars.
Also coming inbound to Derby I seen 3770 - FL63 DXA
Will be a big improvement if the entire batch is to the higher spec but doubt it
I can't see the batch for cannock bein to the same spec as the x38 pulsars as the cannock ones are for the Pye Greens
The 481 versas could possibly be movin to Shrewsbury or going on another route, the current pulasrs at Telford are going to be replacing volvo b6's/cadets
Maybe wednesfield will get the b6s they were originally supposed to have tamworths allocation werent they, im sure they got diverted to stafford by default cos of the oft thing
Coalville's 3776 and 3777 now arrived at Derby
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/10930612496/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/10930848653/in/photostream/
Anything happening with telford commanders as a resukt of new buses??
Theres only 2 iant there? Would be sensible for them to join the others at burton
Quote from: bob on November 19, 2013, 06:07:42 PM
Theres only 2 iant there? Would be sensible for them to join the others at burton
well it would but I would have thought most will be leaving Burton when the Pulsars enter service.
Maybe burtons darts will go instead...
First day in service for 3773
http://www.flickr.com/photos/81543024@N06/11172928905/
Quote from: John on December 02, 2013, 05:07:27 PM
First day in service for 3773
http://www.flickr.com/photos/81543024@N06/11172928905/
I don't know.. they look an awful lot nicer then NXWM's Single Deckers.
Arriva have sent me full details of the VDL/Wrights currently being delivered:-
3770-5 (FL63 DXA/B/C/D/E/F) - Burton
3776-8 (FL63 DXG/H/J) - Coalville
3779-85 (FL63 DXK/M/O/P/R/S/T) - Cannock
3786-92 (FL63 DXU/V/W/X/Y/Z/YA) - Oswestry
3793-7 (FL63 DYB/C; DWV/W/X/Y) - Telford
all of 3779-97 will initially be delivered to Cannock before entering service
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2013, 06:13:56 PM
Arriva have sent me full details of the VDL/Wrights currently being delivered:-
3770-5 (FL63 DXA/B/C/D/E/F) - Burton
3776-8 (FL63 DXG/H/J) - Coalville
3779-85 (FL63 DXK/M/O/P/R/S/T) - Cannock
3786-92 (FL63 DXU/V/W/X/Y/Z/YA) - Oswestry
3793-7 (FL63 DYB/C; DWV/W/X/Y) - Telford
all of 3779-97 will initially be delivered to Cannock before entering service
Look at that Bob, and not a mention of Tamworth. Music to your ears ;)
Much needed at cannock though. Wonder what theyll replace
Why would they be needing replacement? 3 have been refurbished. Plus theres loads worse buses in the fleet, the 51plate darts have aabsolutely had it and need getting rid of
Yea but they wont be needed now will they with versas going there
Cadets among other things - I wouldn't say the Darts, because they're small, Pulsars are large - they don't really match, if that makes sense?
Yea but the darts are used on the pye greens/33s regularly and are too small for both. The only thing darts are any good for is poss the 2/2a (im referring to mpds)
Yes, but who's to be sure that Arriva will move the MPDs to other routes by the time the Pulsars arrive? I know the depots like to have a varying size of vehicles in their fleet, ranging from 8.8m Darts to 11m+ VDLs/Citaros, so that they have flexible allocation on all their routes.
What would they move them to at cannock? ?? Too small for lichfield stafford walsall (1) and wolves routes?
It would appear that if cannock have new pulsars there only having 4 for the Pye Greens, as in January times are being changed so it runs every 15 minutes, 57 plates are ok for Pye Greens, why top of the range? Even better make it half hourly and throw a decker on as Bob has sed before
I'm guessing this batch of Pulsars will replace B6's and the oldest Darts?
Cannock don't have b6's, Telfors are replacing the current versas on 481's
Does anybody know when the Telford Pulsars will be delivered?
I may have been mistaken but it looked like a new Pulsar in CK yard this evening.
Are cannock still having any? The rumours were there were going to be 7, then 4 due to a rumoured reduction in frequency in january on pye greens, and then to none....
Quote from: bob on December 12, 2013, 09:37:13 PM
Are cannock still having any? The rumours were there were going to be 7, then 4 due to a rumoured reduction in frequency in january on pye greens, and then to none....
Bob,
Tony's already posted on the main site and one page further up this thread where the Pulsars are going as confirmed by Arriva
3779-85 (FL63 DXK/M/O/P/R/S/T) - Cannock
Was told earlier that Telford depot should be receiving their pulsars in February.
Fair enough then. I was told by a mate who also posts on here that a driver from cannock had said they weren't having them any more due to the garage not making enough. That was all
Quote from: bob on December 12, 2013, 10:28:55 PM
Fair enough then. I was told by a mate who also posts on here that a driver from cannock had said they weren't having them any more due to the garage not making enough. That was all
Pass..... Tony got the breakdown of new deliveries direct from Arriva & posted details on 3rd December
Yea true and thats literally from the horses mouth. I wonder if the cannock examples will be to the same spec as the burton ones....
Quote from: bob on December 12, 2013, 10:38:07 PM
Yea true and thats literally from the horses mouth. I wonder if the cannock examples will be to the same spec as the burton ones....
If Cannock isn't making much money as you say, it is never likely to without any new/nearly investment on at least its core routes
I dont know whether they make much or not. But 7 new buses and the 3 nicely refurbished volvos will go slightly towards improving arriva's image in cannock hopefully. They really need to start getting rid of some of the darts. Awful. And REALLY need to refurb the route 1 vehicles! The stafford buses need a respray eg the route isnt even sponsored by the mid staffs nhs trust anymore ( it wont even exist much longer lol) and staffs cc changed their logo about 3 yrs ago but the buses still have the old one lol
Quote from: bob on December 12, 2013, 10:52:38 PM
I dont know whether they make much or not. But 7 new buses and the 3 nicely refurbished volvos will go slightly towards improving arriva's image in cannock hopefully. They really need to start getting rid of some of the darts. Awful. And REALLY need to refurb the route 1 vehicles! The stafford buses need a respray eg the route isnt even sponsored by the mid staffs nhs trust anymore ( it wont even exist much longer lol) and staffs cc changed their logo about 3 yrs ago but the buses still have the old one lol
What's the size of Cannock allocation? Is it 50-60 or less?
Probably somewhere in between
Quote from: Winston on December 12, 2013, 11:00:41 PM
Quote from: bob on December 12, 2013, 10:52:38 PM
I dont know whether they make much or not. But 7 new buses and the 3 nicely refurbished volvos will go slightly towards improving arriva's image in cannock hopefully. They really need to start getting rid of some of the darts. Awful. And REALLY need to refurb the route 1 vehicles! The stafford buses need a respray eg the route isnt even sponsored by the mid staffs nhs trust anymore ( it wont even exist much longer lol) and staffs cc changed their logo about 3 yrs ago but the buses still have the old one lol
What's the size of Cannock allocation? Is it 50-60 or less?
63
3 of Cannocks new pulsars have arrived different spec to the 61 plates. All the passengers on the new pulsars will have the luxury of Leather seats
Jeeeeeezzz leather seats? ? Have they forgot that the pye greens go through Chadsmoor lol
Quote from: bob on December 14, 2013, 09:32:40 PM
Jeeeeeezzz leather seats? ? Have they forgot that the pye greens go through Chadsmoor lol
I know i can see it already half leather seats and half fabric where they have been changed due to vandalism
Haha yea maybe they wont be exclusively used on the pye greens maybe theyll be spread about more equitable. The 61 plates end up anywhere lol
Does anybody know about the specification for Telford's Pulsars? (i.e. leather seats, etc.)
Is the whole batch not the same then
Not sure about the rest of the batch, manages to ger a glimps of one of the cannock ones parked in the yard
How could you tell it was a cannock one though? By number plate?
It was 3779 which i believe is Cannock I also caught a glimps of DSO think thays cannocks too not sure of the fleet number
Sorry meant DXO
Quote from: busman99 on December 15, 2013, 07:13:55 PM
Sorry meant DXO
Should be 3781, according to Tony's list of registrations on page 3. It is also one of Cannocks
There was another one too must of been 3780 then could not see the reg though
Are they actually definitely for pye greens? Why they're gonna put leather DP seated buses on its beyond me?
My mate who works there says as far as he knows and from what they are sayong they are for pye green but as we know anything can change in Arriva overnight so I suppose we will have ro wait and see.
Its just weird with it being a local service etc theyd be better placed on 60/825 or another longer service
Quote from: busman99 on December 15, 2013, 07:26:32 PM
There was another one too must of been 3780 then could not see the reg though
3780 is still at Heysham today
And the 2013 prize for the least noticable route branding goes to....
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/3775.html
Quote from: Tony on December 17, 2013, 10:07:30 PM
And the 2013 prize for the least noticable route branding goes to....
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/3775.html (http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/3775.html)
It depends on what you class as route branding, I suppose. The 301 return branding on certain Walsall Omnilinks is even less noticeable
Im sorry but that branding is rubbish, nobody put any effort into that at all clearly
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 17, 2013, 10:10:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 17, 2013, 10:07:30 PM
And the 2013 prize for the least noticable route branding goes to....
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/3775.html (http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/3775.html)
It depends on what you class as route branding, I suppose. The 301 return branding on certain Walsall Omnilinks is even less noticeable
Cue bobs rant about arriva
According to arrivas fb page cannocks won't be entering service til feb so unless they're gona just sit in the yard for two months id be doubtful the ones parked up there are cannocks lol
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 18, 2013, 12:06:35 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 17, 2013, 10:10:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 17, 2013, 10:07:30 PM
And the 2013 prize for the least noticable route branding goes to....
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/3775.html (http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/3775.html)
It depends on what you class as route branding, I suppose. The 301 return branding on certain Walsall Omnilinks is even less noticeable
Cue bobs rant about arriva
Hell no its smart sassy out there catchy and with it :-p
The inside of the National Forest branded ones is different at least.
Different in what way
Branding inside
There is quite a few new pulsars at Cannock now, cant understand why they aee not entering service until feb but hey ho at least they will be out
Quote from: busman99 on December 19, 2013, 08:21:12 PM
There is quite a few new pulsars at Cannock now, cant understand why they aee not entering service until feb but hey ho at least they will be out
3781 and 3783 are the two at the rear of the rows that can be seen over the fence.
IIRC The 9 branding on their predecessors was also odd in that it carried no reference to the change of route number in Coalville.
The buses listed as being new for cannock in this thread dont have standard seats, they have leather seats
Must have been a mistake then, gotta admit I couldn't see em being stupid enough to but leather seated buses on Cannocks scummiest route lol
Will the buses have WI-FI?
Ive heard that cannocks new pulsars are being moved to shropshire. One left today
By cannocks new pulsars I presume you mean those that were just stored there then, and that the ones allocated to cannock havent arrived yet?
I don't want any more at Telford - 6 is bad enough, to be honest! Give them a few months and they'll be as shaky as the old ones :(
When cannocks enter service and if all the volvo's go itll be a really boring garage consisting of just pulsars, old commanders, and darts. Also apparently the four cadets are supposed to be moving to telford to join the rest of the batch. Itll be awful. Although they're welcome to the cadets though, the refurbed ones are an improvement but the legroom aint any better lol
Quote from: bob on January 08, 2014, 07:28:54 AM
When cannocks enter service and if all the volvo's go itll be a really boring garage consisting of just pulsars, old commanders, and darts. Also apparently the four cadets are supposed to be moving to telford to join the rest of the batch. Itll be awful. Although they're welcome to the cadets though, the refurbed ones are an improvement but the legroom aint any better lol
The 03-plate DAFs are actually really nice to ride on - nice seats, and they seem to drive really well :D I hope that the 03-plate Cadets are moving to Telford - be nice to see how bad they are ;)
If bu03 hrk doesnt get a refurb before it moves wait til you see the interior! ! Its the absolute worst cannock have got and thats saying something lol. Filthy and absolutely theadbare. The cadets dont seem to break down as much and I agree about them being a nice ride but you gotfa admit other than the seats that face each other at back the legroom is zilch even some shortish women struggle to.get their legs behimd em lol
I struggle with the legroom, a little bit. But that is outweighed by how nice the seats are (because of their head rest) :)
I don't think they're proper dp seats tho, my faves are on the w ewu volvos...or the h-dvm dp ones telford had
H-DVM ones, I believe, are the ones that are now used on the N-reg Scanias :--)
Yea weirdly they ripped em out and put em in, makes for a comfy bus :) im gonna hate it when the volvos go :-/. A pulsar broke down at stafford rail stn on the 74 this afternoon, lol sat there with an arriva van behind it :-p
3782 and 3791 noted in Cannock yard this morning. Tony
In preparation for the arrival of new Pulsars, Telford has de-branded the 61-plate Versas (at least, as far as I know, they've de-branded 2942) - so they are ready to be moved to Stafford.
have any of the new buses worked anywhere yet ??
Quote from: Ken Taylor on January 14, 2014, 08:04:22 PM
have any of the new buses worked anywhere yet ??
Just the Burton and Thurmaston ones for the 9/29 are in service to my knowledge
3779 to 3784 will now enter service from Telford garage on Wednesday 21st on service 481
What are the following ones to enter service after telfords? Cannocks? Wonder if theyll get Pye Green branding lol
I think it may be Oswestry then Cannock
There are several route branded pye green pulsars sat in Cannocks yard I seen them going past earlier there was about 2 or 3 branded up
Quote from: busman99 on January 21, 2014, 05:33:55 PM
There are several route branded pye green pulsars sat in Cannocks yard I seen them going past earlier there was about 2 or 3 branded up
Are they all for the Pye Green Circulars? Will there be any spare unbranded Pulsars at Ck?
Wonder if cannock are going to get any more new/cascaded buses to replace the Darts. I dont know what they're thinking of gettin rid of the volvos first!
Quote from: Nathan on January 21, 2014, 05:40:02 PM
Quote from: busman99 on January 21, 2014, 05:33:55 PM
There are several route branded pye green pulsars sat in Cannocks yard I seen them going past earlier there was about 2 or 3 branded up
Are they all for the Pye Green Circulars? Will there be any spare unbranded Pulsars at Ck?
Looks like they are all for pye green as they are branded 25 and 26
Quote from: busman99 on January 21, 2014, 06:01:19 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 21, 2014, 05:40:02 PM
Quote from: busman99 on January 21, 2014, 05:33:55 PM
There are several route branded pye green pulsars sat in Cannocks yard I seen them going past earlier there was about 2 or 3 branded up
Are they all for the Pye Green Circulars? Will there be any spare unbranded Pulsars at Ck?
Looks like they are all for pye green as they are branded 25 and 26
Although it won't be long before they make visits over here to Wolverhampton on the 68/70/76
Quote from: John on January 14, 2014, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Ken Taylor on January 14, 2014, 08:04:22 PM
have any of the new buses worked anywhere yet ??
Just the Burton and Thurmaston ones for the 9/29 are in service to my knowledge
The order they are allocated seems to have changed since the list I was given by Arriva with Telford actually getting the batch that I was told were for Cannock, and Cannock getting later ones. This is presumably why the 'February' start date for Cannocks' was mentioned
Presumably the b10bles are going to start to slip out of use once they begin entering service. ...
Quote from: busman99 on January 21, 2014, 06:01:19 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 21, 2014, 05:40:02 PM
Quote from: busman99 on January 21, 2014, 05:33:55 PM
There are several route branded pye green pulsars sat in Cannocks yard I seen them going past earlier there was about 2 or 3 branded up
Are they all for the Pye Green Circulars? Will there be any spare unbranded Pulsars at Ck?
Looks like they are all for pye green as they are branded 25 and 26
Picture of said branding on 3795
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34645962@N04/12072141823/
It looks like the 310 branding applied to 215* MPD's
Quote from: Nathan on January 21, 2014, 08:31:12 PM
It looks like the 310 branding applied to 215* MPD's
What cheap and nasty? Lol
The Oswestry bunch will be in use by next week so I believe. The Arriva Midlands facebook page says their new vehicles will be on show at the weekend in Oswestry I'm guessing
I'm guessing that the Cannock ones are now the Telford ones because of the leather seats :D
(and vice versa)
Telfords pulsars enter service today
Quote from: arrivadays on January 22, 2014, 07:21:37 AM
I'm guessing that the Cannock ones are now the Telford ones because of the leather seats :D
(and vice versa)
Yep telford get the luxury we get the no frills lol :-p even with the basic seats I bet theyll be wrrecked the pye greens are cannocks trampiest routes the branding should say in partnership with the Job centre and housing department lol