4368 was on the 47 today
what is with LED displays on it?
why are they different?
Quote from: OH25 on October 08, 2013, 03:58:42 PM
4368 was on the 47 today
what is with LED displays on it?
why are they different?
So someone has noticed the first change. Full colour LED destination display
Well yes.
Full colour is, full colour.
LED is orange on black.
Flip Dot is little yellow flipping dots to make the destination.
Indeed, the interior is brighter with the LED interior lights.
They be the same in the B7RLE & E200's if I'm not mistaken.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 08, 2013, 07:03:31 PM
Well yes.
Full colour is, full colour.
LED is orange on black.
Flip Dot is little yellow flipping dots to make the destination.
I'm not sure I see the point in these full colour LEDs. Go North East use them for the route numbers on their array of branded routes but in practice they're not that easy to read.
Maybe this is NXWM's idea of 'gold' corridor buses? :)
Is this an experimental bus to see if the colour LEDs work and are effective?
Quote from: Mike K on October 08, 2013, 07:39:33 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 08, 2013, 07:03:31 PM
Well yes.
Full colour is, full colour.
LED is orange on black.
Flip Dot is little yellow flipping dots to make the destination.
I'm not sure I see the point in these full colour LEDs. Go North East use them for the route numbers on their array of branded routes but in practice they're not that easy to read.
You're right Mike.
In the daytime you can read any colours easier providing theyre bright, but at night its best to have high contrast and not so bright as some LED's are blinding at night!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 08, 2013, 07:42:04 PM
Is this an experimental bus to see if the colour LEDs work and are effective?
They only show Orange on black on the display anyway!
On the bristol rd, looks fantastic
Will take a look for it today :)
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Ooh TV on top deck :-)
The upstairs interior light on passenger side is already not working !
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 09, 2013, 11:56:32 AM
The upstairs interior light on passenger side is already not working !
Probably because the driver has only one side switched on
.
Wouldn't be on the road if they weren't working
Sorry meant to say it was just the front upstairs segment on left that was out
Not really much to get excited about then
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 09, 2013, 01:44:42 PM
Not really much to get excited about then
Which of the features are you not getting excited about? It has a lot of features not even mentioned yet
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2013, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 09, 2013, 11:56:32 AM
The upstairs interior light on passenger side is already not working !
Probably because the driver has only one side switched on
.
Wouldn't be on the road if they weren't working
Is this really a reason that vehicles come off the road? As I often see buses out with quite clearly just one bulb gone with the ones either side of the missing bulb working so can't be down to it not being switched on, one I can definitely identify is 4001, upstairs on the left, others that often have bulbs out include the Gemini's which often seem to have a problem with flickering tubes
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2013, 02:16:42 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 09, 2013, 01:44:42 PM
Not really much to get excited about then
Which of the features are you not getting excited about? It has a lot of features not even mentioned yet
What is the little black speaker type thing on the ceiling at front upstairs?
Which of the features are you not getting excited about? It has a lot of features not even mentioned yet
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I hope it a speaker where the driver can comminicate with the passengers without having to get out of the cab, ie to explain to passengers if the bus is going on diversion and where it will come back onto the route. I have often seen passengers smoking upstairs and wished I could tell them to put it out without having to go upstairs. I have suggested this for a good while, in London it is fitted to all their buses....
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That's the light which wasn't working, also note the small black speaker thing at the front left
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2013, 02:16:42 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 09, 2013, 01:44:42 PM
Not really much to get excited about then
Which of the features are you not getting excited about? It has a lot of features not even mentioned yet
so what features do these buses have then?
I think it will talk
Sadly I think you're right Dylan.
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That's the light which wasn't working, also note the small black speaker thing at the front left
Well that one light is surely a broken bulb, connection etc... as that single unit isn't on one switch surely
A bus shouldn't leave garage with an interior light out, although it will normally be allowed to carry on in service if it happens during the day.
4368 has 3 features fitted to help catch vandals and other crime committed on it which I am not going to list on here, but are not fitted to any other vehicle in the fleet at the moment, and are very innovative.
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2013, 08:59:27 PM
4368 has 3 features fitted to help catch vandals and other crime committed on it which I am not going to list on here, but are not fitted to any other vehicle in the fleet at the moment, and are very innovative.
Smoke detectors? Linked to water sprinklers? That would be pretty useful, lol ;D
Is this an experimental vehicle to see if these features work Tony, and if they do will they be fitted to more vehicles in the fleet!!
Quote from: Stu on October 09, 2013, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2013, 08:59:27 PM
4368 has 3 features fitted to help catch vandals and other crime committed on it which I am not going to list on here, but are not fitted to any other vehicle in the fleet at the moment, and are very innovative.
Smoke detectors? Linked to water sprinklers? That would be pretty useful, lol ;D
Would that be in case or catches fire, or to soak anybody who dares smoke on the vehicle? ;D ;D ;D
Ejector seats would be the most effective......
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2013, 08:59:27 PM
A bus shouldn't leave garage with an interior light out, although it will normally be allowed to carry on in service if it happens during the day.
4368 has 3 features fitted to help catch vandals and other crime committed on it which I am not going to list on here, but are not fitted to any other vehicle in the fleet at the moment, and are very innovative.
Like the pre chipped paint on the stair well to stop anyone else doing it!!?
I did seem to think the seat backs looked a little more glossy?
In all seriousness I wish there was an effective way of stopping smoking on buses. The most a driver can do is report it on the Wayfarer which just makes statistics. Certainly a case for more inspectors on buses who can take action.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 09, 2013, 09:58:18 PM
In all seriousness I wish there was an effective way of stopping smoking on buses. The most a driver can do is report it on the Wayfarer which just makes statistics. Certainly a case for more inspectors on buses who can take action.
People do get prosecuted by Councils for smoking on buses. Plain clothes inspectors / police regularly travel on buses just watching for smokers. They are then prosecuted by the council in whose area they are caught for smoking in an enclosed space
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2013, 08:59:27 PM
A bus shouldn't leave garage with an interior light out, although it will normally be allowed to carry on in service if it happens during the day.
4368 has 3 features fitted to help catch vandals and other crime committed on it which I am not going to list on here, but are not fitted to any other vehicle in the fleet at the moment, and are very innovative.
The best anti vandal feature the bus has is that the destination display hasn't yet been programmed for route 14.
(Tongue firmly in cheek by the way, before the good people of The Rock, Chelmsley etc have a pop at me for disrespecting them)
NX Marketing has ideas of colour coding all main corridors into central Birmingham and I've seen a colour coded map with their initial ideas.
While I'm open minded towards branding it should be used for a reason on routes which need to stand out e.g. to a University for people unfamilar with a city or where where competition has to be seen off.
The current route hubs in central Birmingham mean certain colours will never operate alongside each other.
Just because the destination display can show different colours doesn't mean you have to use it. Some companies tried them but didn't adopt it with Reading being one of the few that have it and some of the colours are hard to see, their buses are painted in route colours anyway ::)
Localised route numbers have been readopted on NX routes, so why not local colours for buses, Birmingham dark blue, Black Country (Midland Red) red, Walsall light blue etc.
51 would be in Walsall livery
74 would be in West Brom livery
126 would be in Wolverhampton
120 would be in Black Country single deckers
You could even reallocate the 900 back to Coventry, they would stand out as they would be red and ivory as on 4453.
No branding needed to stand out, total flexibility at garages.
Obviously many buses in Birmingham would be dark blue and cream, but it would give back local identity used so effectively by the Go Ahead group.
Yes but that would mean that the company loses its identity.
Although I agree and I'd do anything to see the back of the NX name and for it all to be localised. Its highly unlikely for it to happen though.
In addition, what's the point of the full colour displays if they're not going to be used? What's their plan?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 10, 2013, 03:56:23 PM
Yes but that would mean that the company loses its identity.
Although I agree and I'd do anything to see the back of the NX name and for it all to be localised. Its highly unlikely for it to happen though.
In addition, what's the point of the full colour displays if they're not going to be used? What's their plan?
I remember being told at Bordesley that they're going to strip back some of the black vinyl around the destination blinds and brand buses with LED colours as part of the blinds, a bit like this http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3795/10190747905_50244f5bb1_z.jpg (only photo of a bus I actually own, it's awful, but you get the idea)
Quote from: Russ Smith on October 10, 2013, 04:56:25 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 10, 2013, 03:56:23 PM
Yes but that would mean that the company loses its identity.
Although I agree and I'd do anything to see the back of the NX name and for it all to be localised. Its highly unlikely for it to happen though.
In addition, what's the point of the full colour displays if they're not going to be used? What's their plan?
I remember being told at Bordesley that they're going to strip back some of the black vinyl around the destination blinds and brand buses with LED colours as part of the blinds, a bit like this http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3795/10190747905_50244f5bb1_z.jpg (only photo of a bus I actually own, it's awful, but you get the idea)
That's just truly awful.
(Not the photoshop, that is very good)
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 10, 2013, 06:13:39 PM
Quote from: Russ Smith on October 10, 2013, 04:56:25 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 10, 2013, 03:56:23 PM
Yes but that would mean that the company loses its identity.
Although I agree and I'd do anything to see the back of the NX name and for it all to be localised. Its highly unlikely for it to happen though.
In addition, what's the point of the full colour displays if they're not going to be used? What's their plan?
I remember being told at Bordesley that they're going to strip back some of the black vinyl around the destination blinds and brand buses with LED colours as part of the blinds, a bit like this http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3795/10190747905_50244f5bb1_z.jpg (only photo of a bus I actually own, it's awful, but you get the idea)
That's just truly awful.
(Not the photoshop, that is very good)
I'd imagine it's so that you get less branded buses off-route, but seems a bit limiting in terms of the information you can put on the branding!
I also heard blinds will be going 'smart' in the future, where the via points become more precise as the bus progresses through the route, and places it's already passed disappear, now that sounds good.
Quote from: Russ Smith on October 10, 2013, 06:53:27 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 10, 2013, 06:13:39 PM
Quote from: Russ Smith on October 10, 2013, 04:56:25 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 10, 2013, 03:56:23 PM
Yes but that would mean that the company loses its identity.
Although I agree and I'd do anything to see the back of the NX name and for it all to be localised. Its highly unlikely for it to happen though.
In addition, what's the point of the full colour displays if they're not going to be used? What's their plan?
I remember being told at Bordesley that they're going to strip back some of the black vinyl around the destination blinds and brand buses with LED colours as part of the blinds, a bit like this http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3795/10190747905_50244f5bb1_z.jpg (only photo of a bus I actually own, it's awful, but you get the idea)
That's just truly awful.
(Not the photoshop, that is very good)
I'd imagine it's so that you get less branded buses off-route, but seems a bit limiting in terms of the information you can put on the branding!
I also heard blinds will be going 'smart' in the future, where the via points become more precise as the bus progresses through the route, and places it's already passed disappear, now that sounds good.
Yes but pointless.
They seem to keep getting all this technology but what's the point? Passengers want buses. On time. With sufficient volume of drivers to not lose any mileage.
Anybody spotted this out today? Going to try and find it
The most effective way of stopping smoking on buses (and I have a great deal of respect for bus drivers) is for the driver to grow a pair, go upstairs and confront them, tell them they've phoned the police or will phone the police, and make sure they actually pay attention to passengers telling them about it. I've watched passengers come downstairs before and tell the driver that someone upstairs is smoking and they've completely ignored it and just drove off. Happened to me on the 94 last week. You could smell the smoke all over the bus, even downstairs, but the driver didn't do a thing. Didn't flag down police, didn't pull over, nothing.
Quote from: JB93 on October 11, 2013, 01:27:58 PM
The most effective way of stopping smoking on buses (and I have a great deal of respect for bus drivers) is for the driver to grow a pair, go upstairs and confront them, tell them they've phoned the police or will phone the police, and make sure they actually pay attention to passengers telling them about it. I've watched passengers come downstairs before and tell the driver that someone upstairs is smoking and they've completely ignored it and just drove off. Happened to me on the 94 last week. You could smell the smoke all over the bus, even downstairs, but the driver didn't do a thing. Didn't flag down police, didn't pull over, nothing.
Drivers aren't allowed to leave their cabs, drivers could then potentially be attacked if they we're to confront the culprit, particularly if part of a gang
VIP buses have large effective do not smoke signs,
They do some things right.
Quote from: JoNi on October 11, 2013, 07:17:37 PM
VIP buses have large effective do not smoke signs,
They do some things right.
Shouldn't that be
one thing right!
Quote from: JoNi on October 11, 2013, 07:17:37 PM
VIP buses have large effective do not smoke signs,
They do some things right.
You mean the Transport for London ones that happen to be left on most of their buses?
I was standing at Birmingham International in the week waiting for a 900 to Coventry. The Real Time Information showed the VIP 966 as cancelled, but a clapped out Dart arrived just ahead of the NXWM 966. Stu it had 966 on the blinds so that's at least two things VIP get right.It was the one Tony saw the previous day the doors were closed (well actually I didn't see them open) appreciate this item has gone off topic.
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 11, 2013, 12:01:03 PM
Anybody spotted this out today? Going to try and find it
Might be a bit late now but it was on the 14 about 5:30 leaving Birmingham. The rear display was showing showing a random pattern of dots rather than any readable number.
Quote from: N94 on October 11, 2013, 07:56:05 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 11, 2013, 12:01:03 PM
Anybody spotted this out today? Going to try and find it
Might be a bit late now but it was on the 14 about 5:30 leaving Birmingham. The rear display was showing showing a random pattern of dots rather than any readable number.
They didn't reformat the rear display after installation.
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 11, 2013, 12:01:03 PM
Anybody spotted this out today? Going to try and find it
Its on the 45 today. 1040hrs ex city Kings Norton Green.
may sound a bit slow, but what is different about this display? :-\
Quote from: Tony on October 08, 2013, 04:08:56 PM
Quote from: OH25 on October 08, 2013, 03:58:42 PM
4368 was on the 47 today
what is with LED displays on it?
why are they different?
So someone has noticed the first change. Full colour LED destination display
I've noticed them. Just didn't make a thread becuase i couldn't catch the fleet no. I saw it on th 97 going into the city centre on the day of YW's open day. I though " why are the displays more different?"
Quote from: jnl1984 on October 12, 2013, 12:42:11 PM
may sound a bit slow, but what is different about this display? :-\
I believe the 'full-colour' LED displays can display more than one colour.
Anyone spotted this today?
And rear display have been replaced like on normal tridents
Quote from: Sayeed_M on October 16, 2013, 12:00:33 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 16, 2013, 11:25:08 AM
Anyone spotted this today?
it is on the bristol rd
It was on the Bristol Road yesterday too, just missed catching it last night at Lee Bank
If anyone sees 4368 tomorrow, can you please let me know. Going to try and find it :)
Quote from: John on October 16, 2013, 10:11:35 PM
If anyone sees 4368 tomorrow, can you please let me know. Going to try and find it :)
I'll look out for you John :) If I see it I'll post it on here
Anyone seen it today?
Quote from: John on October 17, 2013, 11:55:52 AM
Anyone seen it today?
John you still after 4150 too ?
I'd love to see the test sequence of the blinds on this vehicle and see what it comes up with
Quote from: Ex BC driver on October 27, 2013, 11:01:32 AM
I'd love to see the test sequence of the blinds on this vehicle and see what it comes up with
Its a white sequence with zebra crossing bars sort of thing of alternating directions scrolling across, then it shows information about the size of the display and colour depictions. 144x19 front and 96x15 side.
Anybody see 4368 this morning? Was on the Bristol Road and having a good thrash by the looks of things; was following it down the Bristol Road through the rain and you should've seen the tidal waves it was throwing up! Jolly good show I tell ya
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 27, 2013, 06:29:57 PM
Quote from: Ex BC driver on October 27, 2013, 11:01:32 AM
I'd love to see the test sequence of the blinds on this vehicle and see what it comes up with
Its a white sequence with zebra crossing bars sort of thing of alternating directions scrolling across, then it shows information about the size of the display and colour depictions. 144x19 front and 96x15 side.
Anybody see 4368 this morning? Was on the Bristol Road and having a good thrash by the looks of things; was following it down the Bristol Road through the rain and you should've seen the tidal waves it was throwing up! Jolly good show I tell ya
I saw it today... Near 4.36pm, on Colmore Row. It was serving the 24, and I could recognise it from a far distance! But, might I just say, in my opinion, the side display is quite horrendous. :-\
I was on 1210 70 from marston green-wheatsheif coventry road on 4368 :)
If anyone sees 4368 tomorrow, can you please let me know. I keep missing it :(
Bristo0l road seems to be a hotspot
I've only seen it once so far and the front LED looked like a normal one at a quick glance, also noticed the back has got a standard dot matrix again!
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2013, 08:59:27 PM
A bus shouldn't leave garage with an interior light out, although it will normally be allowed to carry on in service if it happens during the day.
4368 has 3 features fitted to help catch vandals and other crime committed on it which I am not going to list on here, but are not fitted to any other vehicle in the fleet at the moment, and are very innovative.
i know what it's got
Quote from: karl724223 on October 29, 2013, 08:59:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2013, 08:59:27 PM
A bus shouldn't leave garage with an interior light out, although it will normally be allowed to carry on in service if it happens during the day.
4368 has 3 features fitted to help catch vandals and other crime committed on it which I am not going to list on here, but are not fitted to any other vehicle in the fleet at the moment, and are very innovative.
i know what it's got
How ???????
You can notice, if you concentrate, the different colours in the front OLED display. (Especially noticeable at night where there is a very slight blue outline below the writing., and a greenish hue to the left!)
Although I agree with the above comments, the side display is a mess. Not a fan of that one.
No luck today finding it as usual. Went down both the Bristol Road and the Pershore Road
Saw transbus trident 4638 with orange led display at Stechford on 14 to chelmsey wood at 1430
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on October 30, 2013, 05:07:56 PM
Saw transbus trident 4638 with orange led display at Stechford on 14 to chelmsey wood at 1430
4368? 4638 is a WB Gemini
sorry I meant 4368
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on October 30, 2013, 06:34:26 PM
sorry I meant 4368
Are you sure as it was in depot having work done?
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on October 30, 2013, 05:07:56 PM
Saw transbus trident 4638 with orange led display at Stechford on 14 to chelmsey wood at 1430
As 4368 was not out today, maybe you saw 4632 instead, as that is in NX livery and had an LED display, it was on the 14 today
On the 14 today seen at Tile Cross heading to City at 10:40
Sightings of 4368 tomorrow appreciated. Going to have another go at finding it
Quote from: John on November 01, 2013, 08:02:11 PM
Sightings of 4368 tomorrow appreciated. Going to have another go at finding it
On your travels if you see 4720 or 4722 :) let me know please, the last 2 i need and didnt find them today on the SuttonLines ::)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 01, 2013, 08:12:18 PM
Quote from: John on November 01, 2013, 08:02:11 PM
Sightings of 4368 tomorrow appreciated. Going to have another go at finding it
On your travels if you see 4720 or 4722 :) let me know please, the last 2 i need and didnt find them today on the SuttonLines ::)
Will do Nathan ;)
Quote from: neale95 on November 01, 2013, 10:50:25 AM
On the 14 today seen at Tile Cross heading to City at 10:40
I saw it in the City Centre, just as i was walking to the X51 stop for the Depot Visit...
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 01, 2013, 08:12:18 PM
Quote from: John on November 01, 2013, 08:02:11 PM
Sightings of 4368 tomorrow appreciated. Going to have another go at finding it
On your travels if you see 4720 or 4722 :) let me know please, the last 2 i need and didnt find them today on the SuttonLines ::)
Nathan, 4720 just left Sutton for Town on a 902 (10.30am)
If my timetable is correct it should get into sutton at 13:31 on the 905, much appreciated john (:
saw 4368 operate on the 60 seen at Yardley swan shopping centre 0920 to birmingham
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on November 02, 2013, 02:11:01 PM
saw 4368 operate on the 60 seen at Yardley swan shopping centre 0920 to birmingham
Thanks, At last I saw it by sheer luck on the 60 today, and got a good pic of the nearside, with the LED side display
4368 really stands out, just seen it on the 60
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That's the light which wasn't working, also note the small black speaker thing at the front left
Looking at John's latest photo they still haven't sorted out the upstairs front left interior light, bulb still out!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10627813793/in/photostream/
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on November 02, 2013, 04:01:40 PM
Definitely, but looking at John's latest photo they still haven't sorted out the upstairs front left interior light, bulb still out!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10627813793/in/photostream/
Is that light supposed to work, or given 4368s special features, if someone trys to etch on the windows, does it fire water all over them? ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 02, 2013, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on November 02, 2013, 04:01:40 PM
Definitely, but looking at John's latest photo they still haven't sorted out the upstairs front left interior light, bulb still out!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10627813793/in/photostream/
Is that light supposed to work, or given 4368s special features, if someone trys to etch on the windows, does it fire water all over them? ::) ::) ::)
Sorry, somehow I accidentally deleted that pic ::), here is the new link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10628354105/
Will any other buses be getting similar treatment?
4368 is on BC 14 today Birmingham-Chelmsey Wood
Tony caught 4368 out on YW6 today look in Noteworthy Workings November thread for the pic of 4368 on the 6 but I seen 4368 on the 60 first thing this morning so must have moved onto YW6 mid morning :-\
Quote from: Rob4367 on November 05, 2013, 09:19:10 PM
Tony caught 4368 out on YW6 today look in Noteworthy Workings November thread for the pic of 4368 on the 6 but 4368 was on the 60 first thing this morning :-\
One good thing, they appear to have repaired that upstairs light. :)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 05, 2013, 09:23:00 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on November 05, 2013, 09:19:10 PM
Tony caught 4368 out on YW6 today look in Noteworthy Workings November thread for the pic of 4368 on the 6 but 4368 was on the 60 first thing this morning :-\
One good thing, they appear to have repaired that upstairs light. :)
Are Yardley Wood short of buses at the minute again?
Quote from: John on November 05, 2013, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 05, 2013, 09:23:00 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on November 05, 2013, 09:19:10 PM
Tony caught 4368 out on YW6 today look in Noteworthy Workings November thread for the pic of 4368 on the 6 but 4368 was on the 60 first thing this morning :-\
One good thing, they appear to have repaired that upstairs light. :)
Are Yardley Wood short of buses at the minute again?
or drivers, or perhaps both?
4368 was in the news this morning I think.
I heard a radio report on it this morning at work, and also this article on the Birmingham Mail website
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/west-midlands-police-first-uk-6274732
Quote from: John on November 06, 2013, 05:09:05 PM
I heard a radio report on it this morning at work, and also this article on the Birmingham Mail website
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/west-midlands-police-first-uk-6274732
No longer a trident according to the article it's now a Trojan
Quote from: richie on November 06, 2013, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: John on November 06, 2013, 05:09:05 PM
I heard a radio report on it this morning at work, and also this article on the Birmingham Mail website
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/west-midlands-police-first-uk-6274732
No longer a trident according to the article it's now a Trojan
'Trojan' just refers to the fact that it's an undercover bus. Fall Of Troy, the Trojan horse and all that. Beware Greeks Bearing Gifts, or smart buses with crime-busting technology and all that. ;)
Quote from: Stu on November 06, 2013, 07:53:57 PM
Quote from: richie on November 06, 2013, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: John on November 06, 2013, 05:09:05 PM
I heard a radio report on it this morning at work, and also this article on the Birmingham Mail website
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/west-midlands-police-first-uk-6274732
No longer a trident according to the article it's now a Trojan
'Trojan' just refers to the fact that it's an undercover bus. Fall Of Troy, the Trojan horse and all that. Beware Greeks Bearing Gifts, or smart buses with crime-busting technology and all that. ;)
It was the Greeks who gave the Trojan horse to the Trojans. Technically, it wasn't a Trojan horse but a Greek horse. Hence the tag "Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes",which, you'll recall, is usually and somewhat inaccurately translated, "Beware Greeks bearing gifts."
The point is, just as the Trojan horse was Greek, what you call a Greek tag is, in fact, Latin. The Greeks wouldn't suggest bewaring of themselves, if one can use such a participle, and it's clearly Latin not because "Timeo" ends in "o", as the Greek first person also ends in "o". No, there is a Greek word "Timao" meaning "I honour", but the "os" ending is a nominative singular termination of a second declension in Greek and an accusative plural in Latin, though actually Danaos is not only the Greek for Greek, it's also the Latin for Greek.
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 06, 2013, 08:08:36 PM
Quote from: Stu on November 06, 2013, 07:53:57 PM
Quote from: richie on November 06, 2013, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: John on November 06, 2013, 05:09:05 PM
I heard a radio report on it this morning at work, and also this article on the Birmingham Mail website
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/west-midlands-police-first-uk-6274732
No longer a trident according to the article it's now a Trojan
'Trojan' just refers to the fact that it's an undercover bus. Fall Of Troy, the Trojan horse and all that. Beware Greeks Bearing Gifts, or smart buses with crime-busting technology and all that. ;)
It was the Greeks who gave the Trojan horse to the Trojans. Technically, it wasn't a Trojan horse but a Greek horse. Hence the tag "Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes",which, you'll recall, is usually and somewhat inaccurately translated, "Beware Greeks bearing gifts."
The point is, just as the Trojan horse was Greek, what you call a Greek tag is, in fact, Latin. The Greeks wouldn't suggest bewaring of themselves, if one can use such a participle, and it's clearly Latin not because "Timeo" ends in "o", as the Greek first person also ends in "o". No, there is a Greek word "Timao" meaning "I honour", but the "os" ending is a nominative singular termination of a second declension in Greek and an accusative plural in Latin, though actually Danaos is not only the Greek for Greek, it's also the Latin for Greek.
Very good, did you study Classics at school/college too then? (I know I did :()
Quote from: Stu on November 06, 2013, 08:22:52 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 06, 2013, 08:08:36 PM
Quote from: Stu on November 06, 2013, 07:53:57 PM
Quote from: richie on November 06, 2013, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: John on November 06, 2013, 05:09:05 PM
I heard a radio report on it this morning at work, and also this article on the Birmingham Mail website
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/west-midlands-police-first-uk-6274732
No longer a trident according to the article it's now a Trojan
'Trojan' just refers to the fact that it's an undercover bus. Fall Of Troy, the Trojan horse and all that. Beware Greeks Bearing Gifts, or smart buses with crime-busting technology and all that. ;)
It was the Greeks who gave the Trojan horse to the Trojans. Technically, it wasn't a Trojan horse but a Greek horse. Hence the tag "Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes",which, you'll recall, is usually and somewhat inaccurately translated, "Beware Greeks bearing gifts."
The point is, just as the Trojan horse was Greek, what you call a Greek tag is, in fact, Latin. The Greeks wouldn't suggest bewaring of themselves, if one can use such a participle, and it's clearly Latin not because "Timeo" ends in "o", as the Greek first person also ends in "o". No, there is a Greek word "Timao" meaning "I honour", but the "os" ending is a nominative singular termination of a second declension in Greek and an accusative plural in Latin, though actually Danaos is not only the Greek for Greek, it's also the Latin for Greek.
Very good, did you study Classics at school/college too then? (I know I did :()
No...I watch Yes Minister! :-) At work they call me the real life Sir Humphrey!
It says in the article that 324 of these systems have been bought and all of Bordsley Garage buses have been fitted, any idea what other garages are likely to get them?
No point in fitting them to PE Mercs, don't want them ruined by smoke damage! :D :D :D
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 06, 2013, 08:30:03 PM
It says in the article that 324 of these systems have been bought and all of Bordsley Garage buses have been fitted, any idea what other garages are likely to get them?
No point in fitting them to PE |Mercs, don't want them ruined by smoke damage! :D :D :D
I'd say AG & BC might get them :)
Quote from: Rob4367 on November 06, 2013, 08:31:03 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 06, 2013, 08:30:03 PM
It says in the article that 324 of these systems have been bought and all of Bordsley Garage buses have been fitted, any idea what other garages are likely to get them?
No point in fitting them to PE |Mercs, don't want them ruined by smoke damage! :D :D :D
I'd say AG & BC might get them :)
BC, definitely, it already has it on 4368, but I can't stand the side display! >:(
In other news, i've been on 4368, on the 24, yesterday, the screens looks stunning & interior downstairs lights are brighter... They look good...
4368 seen on 45 to longbridge at Birmingham 1120
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on November 23, 2013, 12:30:16 PM
4368 seen on 45 to longbridge at Birmingham 1120
Something for me to look out for today :)
4368 seen on 45E today at Birmingham 1020
4368 out on the 97 today
Quote from: Nathan on May 31, 2014, 06:33:57 PM
4368 out on the 97 today
spotted it myself Nathan :)