Hi Guys (this is my first post)
Just saying about what happend on 1672 (route 82) on june 14th
So i was waiting for it like i do everyday to get home from school and i saw it coming down the road and then it just stopped and i was wandering what was happening and so i waited for the next 82 (bus 1670) and then as we were pulling out of bilston and the driver said ''If you've been waiting for a long time apologies but the bus before me had a window put through with a rock and by some kids from my school st thomas more in darlaston'' I'm in year 8 by the way but know a hell of a lot about nxwm buses :)
Thanks for reading
Oh cool what got you into buses?
I'm 15 in year 10 and I have the same condition and same obsession as Trident 4609 (Nathan) and we are good friends in real life
I live in Halesowen right on the 9, 241 and 002 with every other Halesowen route just round the corner
Its mindless little sh'ts that commit acts such as that, hope they get what they deserve, rant over
Quote from: domino.99 on June 15, 2013, 10:53:24 PM
Oh cool what got you into buses?
Just to add, what first got me into buses was the sound of the Voith Volvo B10M Citybuses which I used to get to school every day a few years back
Listen to this one from the same batch... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAVNNILjLtc&feature=youtu.be&t=1m51s
Yeah ashley i know exactly which mindless little sh't it was
Quote from: domino.99 on June 16, 2013, 07:26:57 AM
Yeah ashley i know exactly which mindless little sh't it was
So report it to Safer Travel police then! - not doing say is almost as bad as what he has done. If you don't and he does it again it could be your granny who gets a brick on her head and a face full of glass next time.
or worse, with a stone coming through window behind cab, landing just 4 inches away from a pram with a very young baby in it!!! cant see what the obsession is with smashing bus windows, its dangerous and puts people in danger, inconveniences people as bus cant move, and costs time and money while its off the road (i wonder if people stopped criminal damage/window smashing/vandalising how much money bus companies would save? - remember these mindful acts and consider these when the bus fares are increased.
Or even worse going through the Drivers open window knocking the driver out causing the bus to career off course into oncoming traffic causing a fatal head on which could mean multiple injuries or death! These prats have no consideration for others. You can report this anonymously and should not be worried, I sincerely hope you do report them, this is a most serious incident and unexcusable
Just to say i have reported it and someone from nxwm and a pcso will be coming in to school on monday
Quote from: domino.99 on June 16, 2013, 11:15:01 AM
Just to say i have reported it and someone from nxwm and a pcso will be coming in to school on monday
Well Done
So what do you think will happen to it do you think it will get withdrawn or what?
Quote from: domino.99 on June 16, 2013, 11:21:43 AM
So what do you think will happen to it do you think it will get withdrawn or what?
It won't get withdrawn, it will just get a replacement window
Quote from: John on June 16, 2013, 11:23:01 AM
Quote from: domino.99 on June 16, 2013, 11:21:43 AM
So what do you think will happen to it do you think it will get withdrawn or what?
It won't get withdrawn, it will just get a replacement window
And how long do you think that will take?
Quote from: domino.99 on June 16, 2013, 11:15:01 AM
Just to say i have reported it and someone from nxwm and a pcso will be coming in to school on monday
Good on ya! :)
Quote from: 4006 on June 16, 2013, 11:27:49 AM
Quote from: domino.99 on June 16, 2013, 11:15:01 AM
Just to say i have reported it and someone from nxwm and a pcso will be coming in to school on monday
Good on ya! :)
Thanks Mate
Quote from: domino.99 on June 16, 2013, 11:24:57 AM
Quote from: John on June 16, 2013, 11:23:01 AM
Quote from: domino.99 on June 16, 2013, 11:21:43 AM
So what do you think will happen to it do you think it will get withdrawn or what?
It won't get withdrawn, it will just get a replacement window
And how long do you think that will take?
It would depend how busy engineering is/having appropriate spares, but I've known windows to be replaced within hours.
Quote from: notepanel on June 16, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on June 16, 2013, 11:24:57 AM
Quote from: John on June 16, 2013, 11:23:01 AM
Quote from: domino.99 on June 16, 2013, 11:21:43 AM
So what do you think will happen to it do you think it will get withdrawn or what?
It won't get withdrawn, it will just get a replacement window
And how long do you think that will take?
It would depend how busy engineering is/having appropriate spares, but I've known windows to be replaced within hours.
Buses with Gasket Glazing (held in with the rubber seals) can be repaired withing minutes, it normally takes longer for the cleaner to make sure none of the little squares of glass from the broken window are still on the bus than a fitter to actually fit the glass.
Buses with Bonded Glazing (glued onto the body frame) take longer as you have to wait for the glue to dry before the bus can be used again
Itl be back out tomorrow ill bet, theres plenty of spare parts for Mercs in a shed somewhere (theoretically)
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 16, 2013, 01:35:27 PM
Itl be back out tomorrow ill bet, theres plenty of spare parts for Mercs in a shed somewhere (theoretically)
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A quick run down to PE should solve the problem if WN haven't got the right part, PE should have one or there are some scrap Mercs on the car park that would have one.
If WN gutted 1544 when that was dusting over then they should have something.
are the mercs bonded windows? if so you risk breaking them removing them, and photos of withdrawn mercs on the net dont show many windows missing on the sides. as for the chap who reported the window smasher well done. be proud that the cuplrit gets a comeuppance
Quote from: mranon on June 16, 2013, 02:29:47 PM
are the mercs bonded windows? if so you risk breaking them removing them, and photos of withdrawn mercs on the net dont show many windows missing on the sides. as for the chap who reported the window smasher well done. be proud that the cuplrit gets a comeuppance
They are bonded, yes. They and the Scania's are the only buses in the NXWM fleet with bonded windows I believe. Every other bus has gasket.
Quote from: JackC on June 16, 2013, 02:44:32 PM
Quote from: mranon on June 16, 2013, 02:29:47 PM
are the mercs bonded windows? if so you risk breaking them removing them, and photos of withdrawn mercs on the net dont show many windows missing on the sides. as for the chap who reported the window smasher well done. be proud that the cuplrit gets a comeuppance
They are bonded, yes. They and the Scania's are the only buses in the NXWM fleet with bonded windows I believe. Every other bus has gasket.
I thought the B10Ls were also bonded. Gives buses a more modern appearance in my opinion. B7RLEs look miles better with bonded glazing.
Quote from: Mike K on June 16, 2013, 02:54:51 PM
I thought the B10Ls were also bonded. Gives buses a more modern appearance in my opinion. B7RLEs look miles better with bonded glazing.
I'm sure the B10Ls are, yes.
I also think the Solos are bonded as well
Also one more question can you go to WN / PE garage and go and have a look around or do you have to get invited
Quote from: domino.99 on June 16, 2013, 03:10:26 PM
Also one more question can you go to WN / PE garage and go and have a look around or do you have to get invited
You can't just turn up to a garage anymore & expect to get permission to have a look around due to health & safety issues.
The only way to request a visit is to write a letter to the depot manager or NXWM HQ
Quote from: domino.99 on June 16, 2013, 03:10:26 PM
Also one more question can you go to WN / PE garage and go and have a look around or do you have to get invited
Write a letter to the garage like my mom did and they will say if you can or not.
I've been lucky enough to visit Park Lane garage twice. First in 2005 when i was 6 and second time On April 20th 2013.
Quote from: John on June 16, 2013, 03:01:10 PM
Quote from: Mike K on June 16, 2013, 02:54:51 PM
I thought the B10Ls were also bonded. Gives buses a more modern appearance in my opinion. B7RLEs look miles better with bonded glazing.
I'm sure the B10Ls are, yes.
I also think the Solos are bonded as well
Completely forgot about those two ::)
nxwm are usually tight with the options list, the geminis look much better bonded such as first's.
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 17, 2013, 12:13:23 AM
nxwm are usually tight with the options list, the geminis look much better bonded such as first's.
It is not so much tight as practical. As stated above gasket glazing can be replaced in a short time, The Lynx had bonded glazing and had to be off the road for two days every time a window was broken
Quote from: Tony on June 17, 2013, 07:28:16 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 17, 2013, 12:13:23 AM
nxwm are usually tight with the options list, the geminis look much better bonded such as first's.
It is not so much tight as practical. As stated above gasket glazing can be replaced in a short time, The Lynx had bonded glazing and had to be off the road for two days every time a window was broken
Leyland Lynx training video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMojU4lhFfY
1672 on WN32 today
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 17, 2013, 01:11:28 PM
1672 on WN32 today
And the 11 and 33 due to interworking then
If it stays out until tonight then yes it will go on the 11, its monday afternoon remember
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 17, 2013, 01:41:36 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 17, 2013, 01:11:28 PM
1672 on WN32 today
And the 11 and 33 due to interworking then
The 11 doesn't interwork with the 32/33 other than maybe in the evening.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 17, 2013, 05:00:50 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 17, 2013, 01:41:36 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 17, 2013, 01:11:28 PM
1672 on WN32 today
And the 11 and 33 due to interworking then
The 11 doesn't interwork with the 32/33 other than maybe in the evening.
Oh sorry i always thought it did
I was on the 529 yesterday morning, I saw 1672 turning right to Moseley Road, this was 10:50am. It was a 10:40am bus departing from Wolverhampton. The window looked normal.
Quote from: Nytro on June 20, 2013, 07:16:03 PM
I was on the 529 yesterday morning, I saw 1672 turning right to Moseley Road, this was 10:50am. It was a 10:40am bus departing from Wolverhampton. The window looked normal.
Why would it look anything else?
Quote from: Tony on June 20, 2013, 08:55:45 PM
Quote from: Nytro on June 20, 2013, 07:16:03 PM
I was on the 529 yesterday morning, I saw 1672 turning right to Moseley Road, this was 10:50am. It was a 10:40am bus departing from Wolverhampton. The window looked normal.
Why would it look anything else?
Wow, my first post and I get that from Tony. I thought I'd be kind to update info about 1672... <sigh>
Quote from: Nytro on June 21, 2013, 12:01:00 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 20, 2013, 08:55:45 PM
Quote from: Nytro on June 20, 2013, 07:16:03 PM
I was on the 529 yesterday morning, I saw 1672 turning right to Moseley Road, this was 10:50am. It was a 10:40am bus departing from Wolverhampton. The window looked normal.
Why would it look anything else?
Wow, my first post and I get that from Tony. I thought I'd be kind to update info about 1672... <sigh>
I'm afraid you'll have to get used to it. Don't worry, and welcome :)
I prefer gasket glazing on geminis
Quote from: Nytro on June 21, 2013, 12:01:00 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 20, 2013, 08:55:45 PM
Quote from: Nytro on June 20, 2013, 07:16:03 PM
I was on the 529 yesterday morning, I saw 1672 turning right to Moseley Road, this was 10:50am. It was a 10:40am bus departing from Wolverhampton. The window looked normal.
Why would it look anything else?
Wow, my first post and I get that from Tony. I thought I'd be kind to update info about 1672... <sigh>
Well what happened to 1672 then, was it the one with the broken window? As to be quite honest I'm sure with such a large fleet there is a broken window somewhere probably nearly every day so the fact a window has been broken and then changed is hardly headline bus enthusiast news
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on June 21, 2013, 07:21:48 AM
Quote from: Nytro on June 21, 2013, 12:01:00 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 20, 2013, 08:55:45 PM
Quote from: Nytro on June 20, 2013, 07:16:03 PM
I was on the 529 yesterday morning, I saw 1672 turning right to Moseley Road, this was 10:50am. It was a 10:40am bus departing from Wolverhampton. The window looked normal.
Why would it look anything else?
Wow, my first post and I get that from Tony. I thought I'd be kind to update info about 1672... <sigh>
Well what happened to 1672 then, was it the one with the broken window? As to be quite honest I'm sure with such a large fleet there is a broken window somewhere probably nearly every day so the fact a window has been broken and then changed is hardly headline bus enthusiast news
Yes wilmotm, I was one broken window, the only thing of significance is that domino.99 knew who broke it from his school and fair play to him informed the safer travel team. So hopefully that may prevent the culprit doing it again in the future & potentially injuring a passenger or driver in the process
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 21, 2013, 12:10:23 AM
I'm afraid you'll have to get used to it. Don't worry, and welcome :)
Thank you for the warm welcome, Nitromatt1.
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on June 21, 2013, 07:21:48 AM
Well what happened to 1672 then, was it the one with the broken window? As to be quite honest I'm sure with such a large fleet there is a broken window somewhere probably nearly every day so the fact a window has been broken and then changed is hardly headline bus enthusiast news
Yes, I was referring to the OP's post. ( Thanks, Winston, for covering it for me. )