Service Changes August 29th 2021.

[BBS]

The '20' baffles me the most. Is there a reliability issue with the X20 or something? As it's not like nobody uses it.

i agree X20 has good demand but not sure what the combined authority are up to

[Gareth]

i agree X20 has good demand but not sure what the combined authority are up to

What's the combined authority got to do with it? X20 I believe is a fully commercial route run by NX.

[BBS]

What's the combined authority got to do with it? X20 I believe is a fully commercial route run by NX.

X20 not sure really.

[SO6597]

The changes in South Bham may be part of a bigger picture? The proposed cross-city routes showed Longbridge and Frankley as being the terminus points on the south side. Perhaps the focus is on putting in place local connecting services prior to moving towards the cross-city phase?

[Pat]

1A is going to be 41? and 31 being cancelled? strange should of cancelled the 32 or at least make it replace 31

31 is only part subsidised, whereas 32 is fully subsidised.  The people who pay the subsidy make the decisions.  Operators can't just cancel, or change the route.

[2206]

The changes in South Bham may be part of a bigger picture? The proposed cross-city routes showed Longbridge and Frankley as being the terminus points on the south side. Perhaps the focus is on putting in place local connecting services prior to moving towards the cross-city phase?

How does cutting X20 short of the City Centre improve anything though? Surely makes the service less atractive to passengers?
Unless something is still not clear and there are further changes?

[SO6597]

How does cutting X20 short of the City Centre improve anything though? Surely makes the service less atractive to passengers?
Unless something is still not clear and there are further changes?

I'm not surprised that the X20 looks like it is changing. It's heavily used from Bham to Selly Oak but the loadings usually look light once it goes beyond Northfield and the Longbridge - Cofton Hackett section is even quieter. Be interesting to see if it is withdrawn completely or just cut back to somewhere like Selly Oak. The new road layout by the triangle lends itself well to a new terminal point. 

[2206]

Be interesting to see if it is withdrawn completely or just cut back to somewhere like Selly Oak. The new road layout by the triangle lends itself well to a new terminal point.

If the X20 journeys were cut back to Selly Oak they'd probably just be renumbered as X21's.
If it is that badly used south of Selly Oak, what would the point of the new commercial 20 be?

[BBS]

31 is only part subsidised, whereas 32 is fully subsidised.  The people who pay the subsidy make the decisions.  Operators can't just cancel, or change the route.

So what will replace where the 31 went?

[Jack]

So what will replace where the 31 went?

Maybe this 41 will play a part...

[metrocity]

And some of the routes marked as cancelled, TfWM have asked to continue

On a commercial basis I presume ?

[BBS]

Maybe this 41 will play a part...

yes maybe

[Jack D]

Or an extension to 58 as it interworks anyway?

[BBS]

Or an extension to 58 as it interworks anyway?

i dont think 58 will come acocks green and go via shirley  to solihull

[ellspurs]

i dont think 58 will come acocks green and go via shirley  to solihull

Ah, I remember when the 71 used to do Acocks Green to Sutton Coldfield via Solihull and Chelmsley Wood.

That's now basically the

71 Sutton Coldfield to Chelmsley Wood
72 Chelmsley Wood to Solihull
A12 Solihull to Acocks Green.

Riding the Lynxs on that full route was always fun.