https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-27th-october-2019
- 10H cut to operate between QE Hospital and City Centre only. 15:55 from QE Hospital to City Centre will no longer operate.
This revised 10H will most likely continue to run empty all day, as the areas this route serves have much more frequent and better services.
- 10S will be cut to operate between Quinton and Selly Oak only.
Seriously failing to see the point of these changes to the 10H & 10S Just withdraw them and integrate parts of them nto other existing routes or a new one.
As for the 27 I don't get that either. Where exactly is it terminating?
Quote from: 2206 on October 03, 2019, 02:53:54 PM
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-27th-october-2019
- 10S will be cut to operate between Quinton and Selly Oak only.
Well that will be more empty then.
Quote from: mesub on October 03, 2019, 05:20:08 PM
Well that will be more empty then.
The 10S will also be serving Worlds End faraday avenue now too. Do this mean that Simmons Drive and Martley Croft will no longer have a day time service??
Also this means the 10H isn't serving Harborne anymore.
I heard the 10 will be operated by West Bromwich interworking with a new route 54.
And service 45 will transfer to Walsall from this date.
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 03, 2019, 04:41:19 PM
Seriously failing to see the point of these changes to the 10H & 10S Just withdraw them and integrate parts of them nto other existing routes or a new one.
As for the 27 I don't get that either. Where exactly is it terminating?
The 27 will start from the Waitrose stop near the Junction pub off the high street. I'd guess it will be rerouted via the old 29 route and instead of going up Metchley Lane it will run up the whole length of Harborne Park Road then go down the high street before returning up Vivian Road back on route. This should save some time as Metchley Lane can be very bad with traffic.
For some reason the page linked above shows routes 54/A operating between Worlds End and Birmingham which should read Worlds End and West Bromwich.
Quote from: j789 on October 03, 2019, 07:12:12 PM
The 27 will start from the Waitrose stop near the Junction pub off the high street. I'd guess it will be rerouted via the old 29 route and instead of going up Metchley Lane it will run up the whole length of Harborne Park Road then go down the high street before returning up Vivian Road back on route. This should save some time as Metchley Lane can be very bad with traffic.
Yeah I figured that, but then I thought surely not. As you can't have a terminus there?? Imagine he has time to wait for his next journey, he'll be in the way of traffic. Or am I missing something here?
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 03, 2019, 06:48:19 PM
Also this means the 10H isn't serving Harborne anymore.
But it will serve the
Hospital ;)
Quote from: j789 on October 03, 2019, 07:12:12 PM
The 27 will start from the Waitrose stop near the Junction pub off the high street. I'd guess it will be rerouted via the old 29 route and instead of going up Metchley Lane it will run up the whole length of Harborne Park Road then go down the high street before returning up Vivian Road back on route. This should save some time as Metchley Lane can be very bad with traffic.
As in go down Harborne High Street to the Junction and then take a sharp right into Vivian Road? The bus stop outside Waitrose is a marked bus bay so I suspect one bus could lay over there for a short time.
Quote from: Mike K on October 03, 2019, 07:35:26 PM
As in go down Harborne High Street to the Junction and then take a sharp right into Vivian Road? The bus stop outside Waitrose is a marked bus bay so I suspect one bus could lay over there for a short time.
Yeah plenty of space for a bus to park. Only real issue would be any delivery lorries from Waitrose turning out the car park which would not be able to get round. However I'd guess most of these come in the early morning or evening. If any remembers when the Ludlows 004 first started it actually terminated opposite this stop as Vivian road was 2 way running then. With the 29 running the opposite way down the road that was a very tight squeeze. Much better now being one way. I'd say the new route is better as the x22 still offers the links to the hospital and I doubt many people used it on metchley Lane. It's not too far walking down the high street either to the stops not being served or can get a regular 23/24 bus
It might be the case that the route round Harborne is unchanged, but it is just the terminus stopping point that is changing?
Quote from: Stu on October 03, 2019, 08:19:35 PM
It might be the case that the route round Harborne is unchanged, but it is just the terminus stopping point that is changing?
This could equally be the case. Although they never seem to wait time at the Green Man anyway so passengers are unlikely to tell the difference.
New detailed timetable for the 27
file:///C:/Users/Steven%20Baker/Downloads/National%20Express%20West%20Midlands_27%20(7).pdf
Just copy and paste into your browser
Quote from: 2206 on October 03, 2019, 02:53:54 PM
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-27th-october-2019
- 10H cut to operate between QE Hospital and City Centre only. 15:55 from QE Hospital to City Centre will no longer operate.
This revised 10H will most likely continue to run empty all day, as the areas this route serves have much more frequent and better services.
- 10S will be cut to operate between Quinton and Selly Oak only.
No mention of the loss of the 36 !
Quote from: Steve3229vp on October 03, 2019, 09:04:02 PM
New detailed timetable for the 27
file:///C:/Users/Steven%20Baker/Downloads/National%20Express%20West%20Midlands_27%20(7).pdf
Just copy and paste into your browser
Link doesn't work as it's a file that's local to your computer.
A file storage service like Google drive, one drive or drop box will be links that work
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 03, 2019, 09:10:34 PM
Link doesn't work as it's a file that's local to your computer.
A file storage service like Google drive, one drive or drop box will be links that work
Try this
https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/plan-your-journey/timetables/#/route/cen_33027_Y_H_y11_7-7
Quote from: Steve3229vp on October 03, 2019, 09:38:40 PM
Claribels, no change of timetable
Meant to be reducing the 94 frequency to take on more tendered work (36)...
Quote from: Steve3229vp on October 03, 2019, 09:33:20 PM
Try this
https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/plan-your-journey/timetables/#/route/cen_33027_Y_H_y11_7-7
So the 27 route is completely unchanged. 3 mins layover in Harborne during the day so in reality most buses will do the Harborne loop without waiting anywhere - much as they generally do now.
Quote from: Winston on October 03, 2019, 09:46:37 PM
Meant to be reducing the 94 frequency to take on more tendered work (36)...
What will the new frequency be?
Quote from: 2206 on October 03, 2019, 10:16:30 PM
What will the new frequency be?
every 18 mins & sat reduce due to low numbers
Quote from: Solo1 on October 04, 2019, 08:08:20 AM
every 18 mins & sat reduce due to low numbers
NX will probably gain some extra passengers then and maybe a bit busier at peak/busy times then. Since the Claribel buses do leave full when I see them in the City Centre at 3 - 5 PM.
I wander if NX will put any extra capacity on during the peak times, double deckers on the 55 maybe, as the Omnilinks struggle to cope at present.
I doubt decreasing the frequency of the Claribel service will do anything to increase in passenger numbers either, most who use it would probably switch to using NXWM.
Quote from: 2206 on October 04, 2019, 12:21:20 PM
NX will probably gain some extra passengers then and maybe a bit busier at peak/busy times then. Since the Claribel buses do leave full when I see them in the City Centre at 3 - 5 PM.
I wander if NX will put any extra capacity on during the peak times, double deckers on the 55 maybe, as the Omnilinks struggle to cope at present.
A frequency reduction on the Claribel's 94 will be the start of a downward spiral for that route, tendered work is all well and good, but it can easily be lost on re-tender.
One of my predictions on the level.
Interesting new route change on the 10 and 10S
Buses will run from Four Dwellings along Quinton Road West, then turn right onto Simmons Drive and follows this down to Martley Croft. It will then turn left and run up Quinton Road West and will turn right onto Hopedale Road where it will follow the 19 to West Boulevard where it will pick up the normal line of route.
It's a good way to get the 10 and 10S serving the same bus stops as the 24 heading towards Harborne where hopefully it will pick up more customers.
Quote from: metrocity on October 03, 2019, 09:09:11 PM
No mention of the loss of the 36 !
Shame about the 36. They could have really made a change to the route as it has only been going through operators every 2 years or so. But reliability was a huge issue. The last bus just passed me at 18:51 while it was supposed to be there at 18:38.
The 54/54A change doesn't make any sense.
On the website it says that it will run from Worlds End to Birmingham but when I click on the link to the timetable, it says that it will run its normal route from Worlds End to West Brom. Also why does every other journey on the 54 becomes the 54A. Wouldn't it make more sense if the 54A combined into the 54 because the 54A is basically the 54 in the evenings and Sundays.
The 54a will be doing part of the current diamond 55 route between the Queens Head and the George
So is the 55 being withdrawn and replaced by the 54A?
The 55 is being completely withdrawn and as far as I know the 54a is only covering the Queens Head to The George.
The 54a will run from West Brom the same as the 54, when we get to Thimblemill Road the 54 will turn up William Road whilst the 54a will continue straight up to the Queens Head
Quote from: Zander on October 14, 2019, 05:40:44 PM
The 55 is being completely withdrawn and as far as I know the 54a is only covering the Queens Head to The George.
The 54a will run from West Brom the same as the 54, when we get to Thimblemill Road the 54 will turn up William Road whilst the 54a will continue straight up to the Queens Head
Yes, the decision has been made to make the old 445 even more convoluted
If diamond are losing the Sunday 5 does that mean NX is getting it back or is the end of the 5 on Sunday
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on October 14, 2019, 07:13:39 PM
If diamond are losing the Sunday 5 does that mean NX is getting it back or is the end of the 5 on Sunday
No mention of it so i'd take it as the Sunday service is being axed.
Quote from: Nathan on October 14, 2019, 07:30:54 PM
No mention of it so i'd take it as the Sunday service is being axed.
The Sunday service on this route is completely withdrawn, with no replacement.
Apparently the 27 isn't being run by nxwm anymore but they're still on there. What's going on?
(The information was on the website)
Quote from: mesub on October 29, 2019, 05:57:48 PM
Apparently the 27 isn't being run by nxwm anymore but they're still on there. What's going on?
(The information was on the website)
Which 27?
Quote from: mesub on October 29, 2019, 05:57:48 PM
Apparently the 27 isn't being run by nxwm anymore but they're still on there. What's going on?
(The information was on the website)
What website?
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-27th-october-2019
Only 27 listed there is the Maypole to Harborne service, which is still being run by NX Bus.
Quote from: mesub on October 29, 2019, 05:57:48 PM
Apparently the 27 isn't being run by nxwm anymore but they're still on there. What's going on?
(The information was on the website)
Which website
Ah, I found it, looks like a 'formatting' error on this page:
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/national-express-west-midlands-bus-service-changes-from-27-october-2019
Quote27 Maypole - Harborne
The terminus will no longer operate from High Street, Green Man
A new terminus will operate from outside Waitrose, Vivian Road
Minor alterations to timetables
36 Heartlands Hospital - Tyseley - Acocks Green - Sparkhill
This service will not be operated by National Express West Midlands from 27th October 2019 due to the end of the contract
Customers should check the Network West Midlands website for more information
It's referring to the 36 service no longer being operated by NX, not the 27.
Quote from: Stu on October 29, 2019, 07:06:09 PM
It's referring to the 36 service no longer being operated by NX, not the 27.
Ah alright.
Apologies for not being clear about what website