NX 2013 Bus Orders

[don]

In terms of comfort, the Wright Eclipses' smash the Scania Omnilinks' out of the sky. The 37 is a good example to see the difference as both vehicle types are used. The Wright Eclipses' offer a smooth ride and are more generous with legroom/headroom. Speed wise, they are capable of the same speed, although I'm guessing the ECU's on the Wright Eclipses are set up in a way that offers more miles per gallon, hence the lag of high revving, thus less pickup.

What you must be aware of is what the Eclipses' lack in speed, they make up for when the doors open and close.

Absolutely totally agree with this. As a passenger, that's all that's important for me and I note even some of the drivers take advantage of the comfort of the driver's seat- one of them looked so laid back he could have been 50Cent riding around in his pimp mobile. Yo.

I liked the Mercs though because they had a very logical layout and it seems that the Wrights have followed this pattern. It really simply works, whereas the Omnilinks look a little be all over the place. I have size XL legs, and I can assure you the Wrights 'Eclipse' the Omnilinks for comfort EVERY time.

The best single decked buses though? What were those ones that were used on the Black Diamond 9?... Proper nice with ace seats and really quiet running gear!!!

Which have exactly the same running gear / Chassis as the Urban Eclipse!

Lol - must be psycho-cematic - darker coloured vehicle = quieter!!  ;)

"Don,

1999-2004 is over a 5 year period as follows:

1999-2000 (1 year)
2000-2001 (2 years)
2001-2002 (3 years)
2002-2003 (4 years)
2003-2004 (5 years)"

Not wishing to bang on about this but the fact is the latter part of the 699 double deckers were delivered in the second half of 2004, with the last few in early 2005. To make this a bit clearer, assuming a 15 yr life, these would not be due for replacement until mid 2019 to early 2020. The earliest (1999-2000 vehicles) would fall due in 2014-2015.

However, there are variations (for instance around 130 vehicles were delivered in 2001), whilst there is overlap with some of the later Mercs and Presidents, and also the 20 odd Bendibuses with the double deckers. However, a maximum rate of replacement varying between 100 - 130 vehicles per annum over the next 7.5 to 8 yrs would maintain a max age of 15 yrs and an even profile across the fleet or thereabouts!

[winston]

In terms of comfort, the Wright Eclipses' smash the Scania Omnilinks' out of the sky. The 37 is a good example to see the difference as both vehicle types are used. The Wright Eclipses' offer a smooth ride and are more generous with legroom/headroom. Speed wise, they are capable of the same speed, although I'm guessing the ECU's on the Wright Eclipses are set up in a way that offers more miles per gallon, hence the lag of high revving, thus less pickup.

What you must be aware of is what the Eclipses' lack in speed, they make up for when the doors open and close.

Absolutely totally agree with this. As a passenger, that's all that's important for me and I note even some of the drivers take advantage of the comfort of the driver's seat- one of them looked so laid back he could have been 50Cent riding around in his pimp mobile. Yo.

I liked the Mercs though because they had a very logical layout and it seems that the Wrights have followed this pattern. It really simply works, whereas the Omnilinks look a little be all over the place. I have size XL legs, and I can assure you the Wrights 'Eclipse' the Omnilinks for comfort EVERY time.

The best single decked buses though? What were those ones that were used on the Black Diamond 9?... Proper nice with ace seats and really quiet running gear!!!

Which have exactly the same running gear / Chassis as the Urban Eclipse!

Lol - must be psycho-cematic - darker coloured vehicle = quieter!!  ;)

"Don,

1999-2004 is over a 5 year period as follows:

1999-2000 (1 year)
2000-2001 (2 years)
2001-2002 (3 years)
2002-2003 (4 years)
2003-2004 (5 years)"

Not wishing to bang on about this but the fact is the latter part of the 699 double deckers were delivered in the second half of 2004, with the last few in early 2005. To make this a bit clearer, assuming a 15 yr life, these would not be due for replacement until mid 2019 to early 2020. The earliest (1999-2000 vehicles) would fall due in 2014-2015.

However, there are variations (for instance around 130 vehicles were delivered in 2001), whilst there is overlap with some of the later Mercs and Presidents, and also the 20 odd Bendibuses with the double deckers. However, a maximum rate of replacement varying between 100 - 130 vehicles per annum over the next 7.5 to 8 yrs would maintain a max age of 15 yrs and an even profile across the fleet or thereabouts!

Don,

you're quite right the quantities go up to 2005 deliveries, so it should have said 1999-2005 (i.e. approx 6 year period)

[RW]

Anyone have any thoughts on what, if anything, NX might consider purchasing in 2013, apart from the pending delivery of hybrids. Any chance they may hold fire to assess some of the 'new' vehicles being developed by the various bus builders?

[winston]

Anyone have any thoughts on what, if anything, NX might consider purchasing in 2013, apart from the pending delivery of hybrids. Any chance they may hold fire to assess some of the 'new' vehicles being developed by the various bus builders?

I would have though that they may opt to order greater numbers of Euro 5 vehicles before the Euro 6 requirement comes in to force, the technology to meet Euro 6 requirement is set to make new buses more expensive.

As regards NX orders, I would have thought that the majority would need to be new double deckers after this years large intake of single deckers (B7RLE's & Enviro 200's due now)

[karl724223]

3 axel enviro 400s for the 9  and a load of mcv b7s

[winston]

3 axel enviro 400s for the 9  and a load of mcv b7s

Karl,

I take it you prefer the MCV/B7RLE to the Wright bodied examples

[nx4737]

3 axel enviro 400s for the 9  and a load of mcv b7s

Karl,

I take it you prefer the MCV/B7RLE to the Wright bodied examples

Someone has to...

[karl724223]

not much difference from a driving point of view driving wise  mcv b7 doesnt rattle as much as a volvo b7

[JackC]

3 axel enviro 400s for the 9  and a load of mcv b7s

3 axle Envrios are 500s and I doubt you'll ever see any in the West Midlands. They're mostly produced for Hong Kong and I don't see them being up NX's street. They're welcome to buy more MOVe though, love the look of those.  ;D

[Wolfman]

National Express West Midlands and 1532 : YJ61OBF

BX61LKF and BX61LKU : Volvo B7RLE / Wright Eclipse 2's are the last of the batch 2001 to 2029 to be delivered, both noted in Heysham Docks sunday.
Also in was BX61LHU and BX61LHV : Volvo B5LH / Wright Eclipse Gemini 2's.

http://61reg.blogspot.co.uk/2011_12_01_archive.html

[nx4737]

National Express West Midlands and 1532 : YJ61OBF

BX61LKF and BX61LKU : Volvo B7RLE / Wright Eclipse 2's are the last of the batch 2001 to 2029 to be delivered, both noted in Heysham Docks sunday.
Also in was BX61LHU and BX61LHV : Volvo B5LH / Wright Eclipse Gemini 2's.

http://61reg.blogspot.co.uk/2011_12_01_archive.html

I think you're a year behind the rest of us there :-/

[Wolfman]

whoops.

well i was half asleep while online this morning.

[dayvid]

Hmmm look at whats been spotted amongst our new megabuses at plaxtons :-)

[Tony]

Someone has posted on Facebook a picture of a nearly finished B5L/Gemini Hybrid at the Wrights factory
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=302079229904507&set=a.104050816374017.7863.100003072975336&type=1&theater

not sure if that link will work for non-facebook users

[John]

Someone has posted on Facebook a picture of a nearly finished B5L/Gemini Hybrid at the Wrights factory
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=302079229904507&set=a.104050816374017.7863.100003072975336&type=1&theater

not sure if that link will work for non-facebook users

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