Rotala win sweep up tenders for Sandwell.

[winston]

So are NXWM not running the 4M?, or will they be in competition with one another

Yes they are as well as Diamond.

Thanks for that, I would have though that Diamond would be better to retain the Halesowen - Hayley Green loop still though, the number of buses serving Hasbury Estate has dropped drastically since the Dudley review

[sonic84]

I agree.  ;D  I would be sorry to see another service be cut from the Hayley Green loop.

Although it didn't technically loop  Hayley Green, I always thought it was a brilliant idea when the 636 was extended to Hayley Green just before the Dudley network review came into play. It appeared to carry decent loadings, but I got the impression it was always a temporary measure while the Halesowen bus station was being redeveloped.

[Ash]

I wonder if diamonds 4H will go from Walsall to Halesowen or start from West Bromwich and then through to Halesowen.

[Tony]

I wonder if diamonds 4H will go from Walsall to Halesowen or start from West Bromwich and then through to Halesowen.

As far as I know Diamond are not going to do a 4H

[Nathan4775]

Will Diamonds 404 soon to be '4' stay the same (West Bromwich - Walsall) or will there be an extension ?. Then if there is an extention does that mean the 404 and ?? will no longer interwork at Walsall

[winston]

I wonder if diamonds 4H will go from Walsall to Halesowen or start from West Bromwich and then through to Halesowen.

As far as I know Diamond are not going to do a 4H

If Diamond are pulling off the 417/4H altogether, I'm surprised NXWM haven't registered their 4H to continue past Halesowen & around the Hayley Green loop, there are enough people that use it from Halesowen. The only other NXWM route covering that area now but serving different roads is the 244, while Diamond still have the 142

[Nathan4775]

I wonder if diamonds 4H will go from Walsall to Halesowen or start from West Bromwich and then through to Halesowen.

As far as I know Diamond are not going to do a 4H

If Diamond are pulling off the 417/4H altogether, I'm surprised NXWM haven't registered their 4H to continue past Halesowen & around the Hayley Green loop, there are enough people that use it from Halesowen. The only other NXWM route covering that area now but serving different roads is the 244, while Diamond still have the 142

I thought Arriva operated 142 now ? or is that Evening Journeys

[winston]

I wonder if diamonds 4H will go from Walsall to Halesowen or start from West Bromwich and then through to Halesowen.

As far as I know Diamond are not going to do a 4H

If Diamond are pulling off the 417/4H altogether, I'm surprised NXWM haven't registered their 4H to continue past Halesowen & around the Hayley Green loop, there are enough people that use it from Halesowen. The only other NXWM route covering that area now but serving different roads is the 244, while Diamond still have the 142

I thought Arriva operated 142 now ? or is that Evening Journeys

142 Mon - Sat daytime is Black Diamond (commercially)
142 Mon - Sat Eves & Sunday is Arriva (tendered)

[Ash]

The 417 these days doesnt seem that busy im suprised its's still commercially viable to run the service and it definitely doesnt need the centro's the solo's would have enough capacity.

[winston]

Won with a Package deal.

The link  to the information on the Outcome of Tenders Oct 2012 is now available on Centro's website

http://www.centro.org.uk/bus/services.aspx

[PM]

Cheers for posting the link Winston, they really have won loads. Hansons have won something and Arriva havent won anything-hooray ;D

[winston]

Cheers for posting the link Winston, they really have won loads. Hansons have won something and Arriva havent won anything-hooray ;D

It seems Rotala have still got a bit of fight left in them..... they did take a bit of a risk bidding for a package of routes bearing in mind what happened with Arriva's package bid thanks to Hansons

[Tony]

Diamond are getting £6724 per year for operating the 530 route, the highest bid was £38001. Either someone wanted to make a good profit or Diamond are doing it very cheaply!

[winston]

Diamond are getting 6724 per year for operating the 530 route, the highest bid was 38001. Either someone wanted to make a good profit or Diamond are doing it very cheaply!

If you looks at routes 26A, 54, 19, 33A, 75, 64, 23 & 24 all which Diamond have won there is a massive range between highest & lowest tender bids. They must have offered a significant discount to the package price.

[andyr]

With such a big difference in prices there is little wonder th tat there is a general lack of investment at diamond. The same problems prevail in the coach industry with tour operators squeezing the operators for lower and lower prices. perhapes nx have the correct idea in seeming to be unwilling to get involved in this low price work?