London Midland Trains

[T840MAK]

What sort are the cramped two car ones on chase line? I have to resort to catching the 4.27 to Walsall then waiting for the cannock train there. Tonight the 505 which was late as per was ridiculous

My buses barely run at all, and when they do they're late, but you don't find me complaining over and over again on here, you find me doing something about it and then finding an alternative method to get me where I need to be so that I'm not late all the time.

[Stuharris 6360]

According to a report on Midlands Today, London Midland have abandoned the proposed trial of an ex London Underground unit on the Coventry - Nuneaton line.

[Adam 404]

According to a report on Midlands Today, London Midland have abandoned the proposed trial of an ex London Underground unit on the Coventry - Nuneaton line.

http://www.nuneaton-news.co.uk/trial-to-boost-rail-services-between-nuneaton-and-coventry-has-derailed/story-30041689-detail/story.html

[Sh4318]

90% sure I saw 172338 at Tyseley this morning. I know it's due back with LM this month

[mikestone]

RMT balloting for strike action over the introduction of security staff
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-38688969
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[Stuharris 6360]

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport-news/2017/01/23/lorry-hits-bridge-sparking-train-chaos-across-the-midlands/

[Sh4318]

172333 now back out operated 2J16 the 08:00 Leamington Spa - Stourbridge Junction this morning seen it at Olton.

Its damaged driving carriage has been replaced by what I assume is a driving carriage from 172338 as the 8 has been replaced with a non standard number 3.

172338's back in service, it has the toilet driving carriage from 172333

[Rob H]

172338's back in service, it has the toilet driving carriage from 172333

I'll keep an eye out for it when I next go to Olton :)

[Stuharris 6360]

Ballot on industrial action now cancelled after London Midland stopped using security guards on 31st January 2017.

According to the document for the new franchise, there is an option for the new owner to run trains DOO, so there will be another reason for industrial action.

[andy41]

Ballot on industrial action now cancelled after London Midland stopped using security guards on 31st January 2017.

According to the document for the new franchise, there is an option for the new owner to run trains DOO, so there will be another reason for industrial action.

I think there may be a few disputes ahead of us in the queue! Plus that would mean new trains and I doubt we're high up the priority list for those somehow.

[Alex]

I think there may be a few disputes ahead of us in the queue! Plus that would mean new trains and I doubt we're high up the priority list for those somehow.

I'm willing to bet that 323's & 350's could be refitted, although i do seem to remember something about 350's being incompatible with DOO gear (could be wrong there).
But yeah, we're gonna be in for a lot of trouble, assuming the franchisee decides to go for DOO, which, if it's Govia, let's hope they learnt a lesson with Southern...

[andy41]

None of the current LM stock is suitable for conversion, that's the official word behind the scenes at the moment, so new stock would almost certainly be required across the board.

[Kevin]

I'm willing to bet that 323's & 350's could be refitted, although i do seem to remember something about 350's being incompatible with DOO gear (could be wrong there).
But yeah, we're gonna be in for a lot of trouble, assuming the franchisee decides to go for DOO, which, if it's Govia, let's hope they learnt a lesson with Southern...

Major difference here though
West mins trains are max 6/8 carriages length
One of the issues Southern had / pretended to have (depending who you listen to) was DOO on 12 car services being too much to ask

[Tony]

None of the current LM stock is suitable for conversion, that's the official word behind the scenes at the moment, so new stock would almost certainly be required across the board.

Just been speaking to a London Midland manager, no plans to do it, but 172s are suitable. In reply to Kevin's comment, although no 12 car trains in the West Midlands, LM runs12 car formations

[T840MAK]

LM run 12 car 350 formations - I believe the 350s are in the same boat as the TPE 185s, they cannot go DOO, as they are incompatible.