London Midland Trains

[Bob]

The 720 from Cannock to Birmingham this morning was the worst I've ever been on. A TWO CARRIAGE UNIT AT MORNING PEAK TIME! People were literally pressed against the doors . Absolute joke London midland are. Someone collapsed and the alarm was pressed and the conductor couldn't get down the train as it was too busy. Have LM heard of health and safety? Passengers complain about the shocking service daily. The 8am one from Landywood is late daily so can't be relied on. Awful.

[Westy]

Did anyone in Walsall & Bloxwich go to the consultation the end of last week?

[Bob]

Two car sets every bloody day on the incredibly busy 16.42 from new St.  There was a woman doing a survey  for London midland on the platform today. Every response was how rubbish the service is. Rammed again today. People right up to the doors. Why can't they bring the sprinters back till its electrified. They had opening windows and an interior nowhere near as cramped and hot as the 170s

[WMT3000]

Just caught the 1700 acocks green to moor st - delayed by 6 mins due to missing member of train crew. Had to leg it across town as got to moor st at 1715 and wanted to catch the 1722 new st - northfield. I'm currently sat on the train at New St having done pretty well to get here in time - delayed awaiting train crew! I don't know what goes on in london midland management/human resources but it seems that they couldn't run the proverbial! The train I'm on is now ten minutes late with no sign of movement - they're just useless.

[Cheese]

Just caught the 1700 acocks green to moor st - delayed by 6 mins due to missing member of train crew. Had to leg it across town as got to moor st at 1715 and wanted to catch the 1722 new st - northfield. I'm currently sat on the train at New St having done pretty well to get here in time - delayed awaiting train crew! I don't know what goes on in london midland management/human resources but it seems that they couldn't run the proverbial! The train I'm on is now ten minutes late with no sign of movement - they're just useless.

Was also on the 1722 as far as Bournville, I catch that train most days and to be fair, today was the first time in a while it has been delayed by train crew issues.  Usually delayed by Notwork Fail's inability to actually get it into and then out of New Street...

[T840MAK]

Two car sets every bloody day on the incredibly busy 16.42 from new St.  There was a woman doing a survey  for London midland on the platform today. Every response was how rubbish the service is. Rammed again today. People right up to the doors. Why can't they bring the sprinters back till its electrified. They had opening windows and an interior nowhere near as cramped and hot as the 170s

Rail leasing is not as simple as that. There are currently no spare DMUs.

[Bob]

So the Chase line is and has been horrendous for years and there's no spare DMUs?  Some journeys are unsafe they're so packed. So nowhere in the country there's a couple of spare carriages? There's no old stock that can be put back into service?

[Tony]

So the Chase line is and has been horrendous for years and there's no spare DMUs?  Some journeys are unsafe they're so packed. So nowhere in the country there's a couple of spare carriages? There's no old stock that can be put back into service?

No, there's not one single DMU carriage currently off lease.

The next ones that will be available are the converted London tube stock and some class 153 single cars from First Great Western and London Midland is taking both of those as soon as they can.

[Bob]

Well that's a shockingly bad situation to be in and appalling service for passengers!  Wonder if the 153s will be for chase line or the LU stock

[Sh4318]

Well that's a shockingly bad situation to be in and appalling service for passengers!  Wonder if the 153s will be for chase line or the LU stock

Nope, 153s replacing 150s going to Northern. LU stock to Coventry - Nuneaton.
I wouldn't expect anything to change until the line is electrified

[Bob]

Same shit service for another two years then cos even when it's electrified the trains aren't gonna be ready

[T840MAK]

Well that's a shockingly bad situation to be in and appalling service for passengers!  Wonder if the 153s will be for chase line or the LU stock

How is it such a bad situation? Most demand now is for EMUs - but with so many electrification schemes running behind it's going to be a while before any DMUs are released.

The next DMUs are, as Tony says, 153s from Northern...which are going to LM to replace 150s which are going to Northern. Then 150s from GWR...which are going to Northern.

LM can only do so much with the resources available - complain about it if it's so important to you, and see if they will change the rolling stock planning.

[Stuharris 6360]

Well that's a shockingly bad situation to be in and appalling service for passengers!  Wonder if the 153s will be for chase line or the LU stock

That's railway privitisation for you, if it were easier, London Midland may have gone out and brought more carriages.

[Westy]

If the train service is that bad on the Chase Line, why aint the bus companies taking advantage?

[Tony]

That's railway privitisation for you, if it were easier, London Midland may have gone out and brought more carriages.

Oh of course, Nationalised British Rail, where the Chairman had to go to the government everytime he wanted to buy rolling stock. They would then take two years to decide, then only authorise about 2/3 of the stock requested, to be built by BR themselves taking another two years.

Much better system before privatisation. More stock is currently being built or on order than at anytime under Nationalsation, just even that isn't enough to cope with growth at the moment. Something BR never had to deal with.