27a/c

[j789]

Seeing as the two teminus points on the 27 route are close together, this route could quite easily be made into a circular 27a/c by extending the current route from the Maypole through druids heath to hawkesley. This would probably only require an extra vehicle or 2 to current requirements and would open up new links for passengers in this area.

[monkeyjoe]

Didn't they try that before and found it has reliability issues? Mind you that could have been more to do with the fact it was linked to the 35 doing a crazy route.

[Justin Tyme]

Yes, there was a 27A/27C in the early 1990s, running Kings Heath - Northfield - Hawkesley - Brandwood End - Kings Heath, with through fares across Kings Heath.  After a while it was merged with the 35, running City - Kings Heath - Hawkesley - Northfield - Kings Heath!  Not surprisingly the two routes were later separated.

Circulars without a terminus are often difficult to run reliably, as it's difficult to put in place layovers with enough recovery time without upsetting passengers.  If the Outer Circle wasn't such an institution, I guess it probably would have been replaced by overlapping routes.

[Nathan4775]

Couldnt they trial the 27? to see if it would actully work ?

[danny]

Think its been tried dude, didnt really go well tbf was a mad route which tied in with the madder 35 at the time, and could u imagine being a driver on a circular, where would you lay over without being harrased by the windgers hehe.

[j789]

I would think a layover point at Kings Heath would be feasible where the current 27/76/11a/c stop is before the High street. A five minute stop could be built in to allow for a driver changeover or make up time and this would not adversely effect any passengers.

[Nathan4775]

Think its been tried dude, didnt really go well tbf was a mad route which tied in with the madder 35 at the time, and could u imagine being a driver on a circular, where would you lay over without being harrased by the windgers hehe.

Could it not Layover outside YW garage ?

[danny]

Hmmm maybe, you both make good points, i supose if it was timetabled right it has the possibility to work and be a sucsess, its something that would have to be planned, cant help thinking the timetable would be very tight :)

[Nathan4775]

If it was given more running time through Northfeild, at shopping times, it could loosen up the timetable a little

[sonic84]

It does make sense for the route to be made into a circular. Especially given how close the two terminus points are.

Infact I'm surprised the 27 hasn't either been made into a circular service, or split into two routes. Hawkesley - Northfield & Northfield - Maypole.

[vinh1000]

Would be nice if split
Since 35 already goes to Kings Heath and 49 around that area to get to Maypole faster etc
To northfield would be good

[Nathan4775]

Couldnt the 35 be extended an the 27 amended ??

just an idea dont take of my head please  ;D

[sonic84]

How would you extend the 35 Nathan? From Hawkesley to Northfield, and then have the 27 run Maypole to Northfield?  Sounds like a good idea.

[danny]

Ye dude that idea could work, when ive been on 27 alot of people normally get off on northfield high street, dont see many carrying on

[monkeyjoe]

All this stuff you guys are talking about has all been done before and it didn't work. Maybe about 10 years ago i think.  Not sure of the exact details but i'm sure someone else can fill you in. The buses were always late from what i remember as i used to use them in those days.