Derby Garage

[RobertJ21a]

arriva and trent fighting over the X38 now,
https://www.route-one.net/news/strong-words-between-arriva-and-trentbarton-over-x38-competition/

from running a combined every 20 mins schedule, to arriva running its own 20 min schedule and trent running its own 15 min schedule. and arriva also changing the terminus in derby to the bus station for its X38 runs. trent keeping at victoria street.

A shame that Trentbarton has been so poor on the X38. Not surprising that Arriva decided to take on all 4 workings.

[twbc99]

A shame that Trentbarton has been so poor on the X38. Not surprising that Arriva decided to take on all 4 workings.

They have got better but the main problems now is roadworks on the A38 at Toyota and in Burton on one of the bridges which is also delaying the villager and V3 routes as well by up to an hour some days.

[joieman]

arriva and trent fighting over the X38 now,
https://www.route-one.net/news/strong-words-between-arriva-and-trentbarton-over-x38-competition/

from running a combined every 20 mins schedule, to arriva running its own 20 min schedule and trent running its own 15 min schedule. and arriva also changing the terminus in derby to the bus station for its X38 runs. trent keeping at victoria street.

And apparently Trentbarton's new timetable will start a week before it's actually registered to start, so for the first week Trentbarton will run buses to the new timetable for free (while their sister company Notts+Derby will run the original timetable for the final week).
I would say that this is the toughest competition in the area I've seen since the days of Yourbus.

[Mayfield]

Thought we were getting away from all this silliness running multiple buses over the same route from different companies, thought bus partnerships were the way forward like the one in Leicester 

[RobertJ21a]

Thought we were getting away from all this silliness running multiple buses over the same route from different companies, thought bus partnerships were the way forward like the one in Leicester

Tell that to Trentbarton.

[AlexS]

Thought we were getting away from all this silliness running multiple buses over the same route from different companies, thought bus partnerships were the way forward like the one in Leicester

Bus partnerships are only any good if they apply to the whole of the area and not just within an arbitrarily drawn part of an area which hasn't been updated in several decades and which does not account for a large chunk of the extended urban area in which many journeys originate (as in Leicester where some passengers on the affected routes now have to buy two tickets to cover their journeys where the connecting leg is on the operator that has withdrawn its service given there is no combined ticketing outside of the outdated, illogical and unfair boundary which is a substantially different distance from the city centre depending on which direction you are heading).

[RobertJ21a]

Bus partnerships are only any good if they apply to the whole of the area and not just within an arbitrarily drawn part of an area which hasn't been updated in several decades and which does not account for a large chunk of the extended urban area in which many journeys originate (as in Leicester where some passengers on the affected routes now have to buy two tickets to cover their journeys where the connecting leg is on the operator that has withdrawn its service given there is no combined ticketing outside of the outdated, illogical and unfair boundary which is a substantially different distance from the city centre depending on which direction you are heading).

I thought the Leicester operators offered various forms of. ' Flex' tickets that cover other operators in the area.

[Glenfieldmathk1]

I thought the Leicester operators offered various forms of. ' Flex' tickets that cover other operators in the area.

Correct.. they do..
But have you noticed they don't allow Narborough or Enderby into this.. yet they allow a much further away area such as Desford, or Countesthorpe for example. 
I think this is more the case the person above was highlighting.
I've asked (but with no luck anywhere)... why there isn't a "county" flexi area (like in Devon). There could easily be one even in a East Midlands area?

[joieman]

Correct.. they do..
But have you noticed they don't allow Narborough or Enderby into this.. yet they allow a much further away area such as Desford, or Countesthorpe for example.
I think this is more the case the person above was highlighting.
I've asked (but with no luck anywhere)... why there isn't a "county" flexi area (like in Devon). There could easily be one even in a East Midlands area?

Yes, Leicestershire (and other wider counties) desperately need something like this - perhaps nationwide, even, like in Germany.