Franchised bus network.

[winston]

I hope I'm proved wrong, but I already suspect that any 'public consultation' is just a formality to give some semblance to 'democracy taking place'.

Decisions have already been made, so it is now down to the public to just meekly 'agree' to them.

- Bus franchising will mean that bus fares will be lower and your buses will run on time, do you think this is a good idea?
- [  ] Yes
- [  ] No
- [  ] Not sure

Other than a load of new buses & a big bill for the taxpayer, I haven't seen any other benefits to the travelling public since Bee Network took over Manchesters Buses. 

[LD713821]

Other than a load of new buses & a big bill for the taxpayer, I haven't seen any other benefits to the travelling public since Bee Network took over Manchesters Buses.

+The £2 Hopper fare
I don't see a problem with spending taxpayers money on Public Transport, they already pay for unprofitable routes at the moment anyway

Nobody can see the future and see if it will improve transport or make it worse - Best to give it a chance 

[winston]

+The £2 Hopper fare
I don't see a problem with spending taxpayers money on Public Transport, they already pay for unprofitable routes at the moment anyway
Nobody can see the future and see if it will improve transport or make it worse - Best to give it a chance

They'll continue to pay for those unprofitable routes too + the costs of setting up the franchising scheme & subsidising any Hopper fares.
 
We've all seen how well TfWM cope at awarding tenders in a timely manner, updating bus stop flags / passenger information & notifying passengers of service changes at the last minute.... Imagine if they were responsible for managing the whole lot....
 

[Gareth]

They'll continue to pay for those unprofitable routes too + the costs of setting up the franchising scheme & subsidising any Hopper fares.
 
We've all seen how well TfWM cope at awarding tenders in a timely manner, updating bus stop flags / passenger information & notifying passengers of service changes at the last minute.... Imagine if they were responsible for managing the whole lot....
 

On the other hand, I recall one service number change where flags and timetables were all changed overnight whilst buses were running around for days, weeks and months showing the old number. One bus that must have been long time out of service was seen showing the old number over a year after it changed.

[ellspurs]

On the other hand, I recall one service number change where flags and timetables were all changed overnight whilst buses were running around for days, weeks and months showing the old number. One bus that must have been long time out of service was seen showing the old number over a year after it changed.

Half of us still refer to it as the 55 anyway.

[Jack]

Half of us still refer to it as the 55 anyway.

Will always be the 55!

[B7RLE]

As of yesterday, the whole of Greater Manchester is now under public control, with the final Tranche of Bee Network complete