Service Changes Jan 2025

[Stu]

Are they definitely changing the A9 number?

No, the A9 is not being changed at all.

[LD713821]

I would also hazard a guess that passenger loading data would suggest that not many people use that service to/from Shirley station.

Everytime I see the A15 it has 0 passengers, the 630 might help though as there are new connections being created

[JosephR]

The X3/X4/X5 etc stop at PQ11 on inbound journeys to unload, hardly the "edge of the city centre".

I'm sorry to get this discussion going again. But as someone who uses X3/4/5, 110 for work. When I change buses in the city at night. I do not feel safe walking to colmore row. If they were to stop at the square peg like before. I wouldn't feel as anxious as I'd miss out some 'anti-social' groups... at B&M and corporation street. Although that's how many people feel, we can't all have it the same way obviously.

[Gareth]

I'm sorry to get this discussion going again. But as someone who uses X3/4/5, 110 for work. When I change buses in the city at night. I do not feel safe walking to colmore row. If they were to stop at the square peg like before. I wouldn't feel as anxious as I'd miss out some 'anti-social' groups... at B&M and corporation street. Although that's how many people feel, we can't all have it the same way obviously.

That made me almost chuckle to myself. As someone who has caught late night buses outside B&M for many years, it's perfectly fine. It's bright, it's open space. Maybe the odd beggar or whif of weed. That's all. One of the worst places for anti social behaviour? The Square Peg! Outside the doors, around the bus stop and also the two new stops opposite.

[JosephR]

That made me almost chuckle to myself. As someone who has caught late night buses outside B&M for many years, it's perfectly fine. It's bright, it's open space. Maybe the odd beggar or whif of weed. That's all. One of the worst places for anti social behaviour? The Square Peg! Outside the doors, around the bus stop and also the two new stops opposite.

Please don't take this the wrong way at all. I saw someone else mention the same thing I had, on another post. I couldn't agree more, that's my opinion. I don't see it as funny, when it comes down to people genuinely feeling uncomfortable. Yes sometimes it may be nothing to worry about, but we don't all feel that way. The square peg has changed since its route clientele had in my opinion - something that can be changed back. 

[Gareth]

Please don't take this the wrong way at all. I saw someone else mention the same thing I had, on another post. I couldn't agree more, that's my opinion. I don't see it as funny, when it comes down to people genuinely feeling uncomfortable. Yes sometimes it may be nothing to worry about, but we don't all feel that way. The square peg has changed since its route clientele had in my opinion - something that can be changed back.

The anti social behavior in certain city centre locations has nothing to do with 'route clientele'. So changing a bus stop for a service to Chelmsley Wood or West Heath for example to one to Sutton Coldfield will do nothing because the 'anti social groups' aren't normally there catching buses.

[Coventrybususer95]

Bus tenders have been released 

https://www.tfwm.org.uk/media/hb4lduci/statutory-information-january-2025.pdf

[Tony]

Bus tenders have been released

https://www.tfwm.org.uk/media/hb4lduci/statutory-information-january-2025.pdf

Note on there the 77 is 'on hold' will still be NXWM E200s on there next week.

[woody38]

On the TfWM tenders page is says Carolean Coaches has taken the 15/A Merry Hill Centre to Wolverhampton. There is no details on TfWM service changes or NXWM service updates, is it his a typo error.

[Stu]

Note on there the 77 is 'on hold' will still be NXWM E200s on there next week.

That's not happening until end of February, according to TfWM's website?

On the TfWM tenders page is says Carolean Coaches has taken the 15/A Merry Hill Centre to Wolverhampton. There is no details on TfWM service changes or NXWM service updates, is it his a typo error.

No, if you look at the document you'll see that one is also "on hold".

[metrocity]

Bus tenders have been released

https://www.tfwm.org.uk/media/hb4lduci/statutory-information-january-2025.pdf

Someone was in fantasy land with some of the "highest bids" !

[MW]

Someone was in fantasy land with some of the "highest bids" !

At first thought, I assumed it was the annual figures, but that wouldn't make sense either!

[Tony]

Someone was in fantasy land with some of the "highest bids" !

As long as no-one is in Fantasy Land with the lowest!

[j789]

Are those higher figures for bids made in a package bid for multiple routes as several are exactly the same for the highest bid? Seems crazy on a few if not.

I would say though that some of those low bids must have very little profit margin in, particularly when new Euro 6 vehicles rental, fuel and staffing costs are thrown in. It certainly won't be a surprise if, even within 6 months, several of those very low bids are given back to TfWM (or at least need to be renegotiated) by certain operators as the costs will prove ultimately too high.

[j789]

On the TfWM tenders page is says Carolean Coaches has taken the 15/A Merry Hill Centre to Wolverhampton. There is no details on TfWM service changes or NXWM service updates, is it his a typo error.

Is that just for the Sunday and evening service though? The lowest bid of £2000 a week for 7 days seems ridiculously low otherwise.