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Ticket price changes 30th June 2024

Started by Rachvince53, June 13, 2024, 11:16:14 AM

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Ingleboro261F

Quote from: Rachvince53 on September 02, 2024, 11:29:43 AMYou would need a NX Outer Zone (£5). This is valid on all NX buses both within and outside the nBus zone but NOT on any other operator.

 Unfortunately there is no longer a ticket valid on any bus within the nBus area AND on NX buses in the Outer Zone. 
Thanks alot

Westy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0l99xz719o

So if this is the case, will this impact on the plan to raise our single fare to £2.90, as I believe was the plan, at the end of the year?

(I suppose Tony will say no?)

BlackCountryBusSpotter

Quote from: Westy on October 28, 2024, 12:44:10 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0l99xz719o

So if this is the case, will this impact on the plan to raise our single fare to £2.90, as I believe was the plan, at the end of the year?

(I suppose Tony will say no?)
My Dad once figured out that a single was half the price of the daysaver this won't happen but I could see some operators doing this that rather increase to £3 they might just rise it to £2.50 if a Daysaver is £5
Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

wembley86

Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on October 28, 2024, 12:48:22 PMMy Dad once figured out that a single was half the price of the daysaver this won't happen but I could see some operators doing this that rather increase to £3 they might just rise it to £2.50 if a Daysaver is £5
£2.90 is cheaper

Stu

Quote from: Westy on October 28, 2024, 12:44:10 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0l99xz719o

So if this is the case, will this impact on the plan to raise our single fare to £2.90, as I believe was the plan, at the end of the year?

(I suppose Tony will say no?)
The single fare was already increased to £2.90 at the end of June this year.
https://wmbu.org.uk/2024/06/changes-to-nbus-ticket-prices-from-sunday-30th-june-2024/

But passengers only pay £2 because of the cap scheme.
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Westy

Quote from: Stu on October 28, 2024, 07:15:46 PMThe single fare was already increased to £2.90 at the end of June this year.
https://wmbu.org.uk/2024/06/changes-to-nbus-ticket-prices-from-sunday-30th-june-2024/

But passengers only pay £2 because of the cap scheme.

I'd be interested to know if NX would keep the fare at £2.90, or put it up to £3, depending on whether there would be a general fares increase early next year or not?

ellspurs

£2.90/trip is still a lot cheaper than I paid on Stagecoach going Nuneaton to Bedworth in the early 2000s.

Gareth

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Quote from: Westy on October 28, 2024, 09:25:30 PMI'd be interested to know if NX would keep the fare at £2.90, or put it up to £3, depending on whether there would be a general fares increase early next year or not?
Put it up to £3.20. Free money in the short term! I wouldn't be surprised how many fare increases on paper happen between now and end December.

j789

Quote from: Gareth on October 28, 2024, 10:19:11 PMPut it up to £3.20. Free money in the short term! I wouldn't be surprised how many fare increases on paper happen between now and end December.
Or a savvy private company may see that keeping the fare at £2 is the best longer term solution, especially with franchising on the cards.

Great press in the short term for the company in terms of cost of living and also makes it far harder to see advantages for franchising as it would be doubtful franchising could keep such a low fare without significant subsidies going forward.

You just know our current mayor would be dribbling from the mouth if fares went up as it would give him something else to beat NX with. I'd love to see NX stick two fingers up to him by doing something like this.

Jay71

I have a feeling that NX & Diamond will try & charge £3. Why? They know that they can milk the public.Why(again). They know that people will moan & whinge about the increases. But they know that people will have no choice but to pay the new fares

Gareth

Quote from: j789 on October 29, 2024, 08:38:04 AMOr a savvy private company may see that keeping the fare at £2 is the best longer term solution, especially with franchising on the cards.

By the time franchising comes in, that private company will have gone bust because they can't survive on £2 fares with no subsidy.

j789

Quote from: Gareth on October 29, 2024, 09:42:13 AMBy the time franchising comes in, that private company will have gone bust because they can't survive on £2 fares with no subsidy.
There wouldn't necessarily be a huge amount of increased revenue charging £3 if it meant those passengers gained since Covid with the £2 left again. 

Keep the £2 and increase passenger numbers by 10%+ over the next 2 years (as people see it as good value compared to using the car) to cover any shortfall or increase to £3 and lose 15/20% in that same time.

What's better - more captive passengers paying less for a bit (you can then steadily increase fares each year as done in the past and still keep passenger numbers up) or increase fares by 50% in one go and lose passengers pretty much forever.

I am sure the bean counters at NX, Diamond etc will see the £ signs of profit increasing fares to £3 but I hope there are people with longer term vision in these companies who can see the bigger picture by keeping fares lower.

BlackCountryBusSpotter

The increase to £3 I think is to allow Labour Mayors to state two things look the Buses need more money to keep them running please give us money so we can Franchise them and two look Passengers are falling please us give us money to Franchise them and add pointless Bus Improvements/Reductions to save money even though it was fine at £2 and the buses were busy but we want it franchised
Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

Jay71

I wonder if the NBus will rise to £5.  Will we see the return of short hop tickets?  I definitely won't be paying nearly £3 for a five min journey 

Tony

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Quote from: Jay71 on October 29, 2024, 05:38:02 PMI wonder if the NBus will rise to £5.  Will we see the return of short hop tickets?  I definitely won't be paying nearly £3 for a five min journey
No chance of cheaper tickets being introduced. The whole point is £2 doesn't come anywhere near covering the cost of a journey.

Then the Government may possibly increase employers NI by 2%, so increasing wage costs, making even more routes unviable

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