Carolean Coaches, Willenhall

[Capitalpotter]

If they're going to expand they need to consider an actual livery and gain an identity

[Wba_lad]

If they're going to expand they need to consider an actual livery and gain an identity

I agree, I mean I'm surprised TFWM haven't actually put their foot down yet and said they want a comapny livery, as I heard when Chaserider ran the 19 and still with their walsall services 36 and 36A apparently TFWM kick up a fuss when they used 5002 which had D&G on it, and I'm sure they didn't like the fact that bus 2 the white enviro 200MMC was not in company livery, I'm sure it will all be sorted but if they are planning on taking all these tender routes on and expanding the business they need to have a comapny livery at least, and their depot isn't the biggest of places either.

[CKD]

I agree, I mean I'm surprised TFWM haven't actually put their foot down yet and said they want a comapny livery, as I heard when Chaserider ran the 19 and still with their walsall services 36 and 36A apparently TFWM kick up a fuss when they used 5002 which had D&G on it, and I'm sure they didn't like the fact that bus 2 the white enviro 200MMC was not in company livery, I'm sure it will all be sorted but if they are planning on taking all these tender routes on and expanding the business they need to have a comapny livery at least, and their depot isn't the biggest of places either.

Travel Express' whole fleet is the same is Chaserider 2... white with name printed on 

[the trainbasher]

I agree, I mean I'm surprised TFWM haven't actually put their foot down yet and said they want a comapny livery, as I heard when Chaserider ran the 19 and still with their walsall services 36 and 36A apparently TFWM kick up a fuss when they used 5002 which had D&G on it, and I'm sure they didn't like the fact that bus 2 the white enviro 200MMC was not in company livery, I'm sure it will all be sorted but if they are planning on taking all these tender routes on and expanding the business they need to have a comapny livery at least, and their depot isn't the biggest of places either.

Unless Carolean are adopting Vision's for their own fleet livery? After all, the fleet does have fleet names on for Carolean...

[Wba_lad]

Travel Express' whole fleet is the same is Chaserider 2... white with name printed on

Travel express I think white is their livery however a quick jet wash wouldn't hurt them 🤣

[Stu]

I agree, I mean I'm surprised TFWM haven't actually put their foot down yet and said they want a comapny livery, as I heard when Chaserider ran the 19 and still with their walsall services 36 and 36A apparently TFWM kick up a fuss when they used 5002 which had D&G on it, and I'm sure they didn't like the fact that bus 2 the white enviro 200MMC was not in company livery, I'm sure it will all be sorted but if they are planning on taking all these tender routes on and expanding the business they need to have a comapny livery at least, and their depot isn't the biggest of places either.

There is no requirement from TfWM to have a 'company livery'. From the TfWM Enhanced Partnership scheme document:

Vehicle livery
8.3. Vehicles must be in an appropriate finished livery, which clearly identifies either
the bus operator or brand route.
8.4. No vehicles are to be used which remain in a livery belonging to a previous
operator, under any circumstances, or bear any previous operator's branding
or other related information.

Kevs and Landflight have plain white buses, a 'finished livery', with their logos applied, clearly identifying them as the operator.

Chaserider would have got into trouble with TfWM by using buses that had D&G's logo on them, as per condition 8.4 above.

[BlackCountryBusSpotter]

There is no requirement from TfWM to have a 'company livery'. From the TfWM Enhanced Partnership scheme document:
Kevs and Landflight have plain white buses, a 'finished livery', with their logos applied, clearly identifying them as the operator.

Chaserider would have got into trouble with TfWM by using buses that had D&G's logo on them, as per condition 8.4 above.

Would also mean Carolean can't use Vision Bus Livery 

[Tony]

Would also mean Carolean can't use Vision Bus Livery

No it doesn't, as long as all the fleet is in that livery with fleetnames.

[Capitalpotter]

I want actually meaning that Carolean would be violating TfWM rules. I was just saying as they're growing it would be beneficial to adopt an identity

[TGZac]

No it doesn't, as long as all the fleet is in that livery with fleetnames.

So wouldn't AS09PAN need a repaint because of its different livery?

[BlackCountryBusSpotter]

So wouldn't AS09PAN need a repaint because of its different livery?

I would assume so maybe even Blue, unless as long as it doesn't have Panther titles on

[wembley86]

The 3? 224? What the? Blimey! *sees stars*

I wonder what buses will be on the 41 and will they navigate the narrow streets 

[MW]

So wouldn't AS09PAN need a repaint because of its different livery?

Has it got Company Logos on? I believe so. It's fine.

When they say that vehicles must be in Operators livery, they mean Logos and any branding - otherwise all of the NX variations would be non compliant too!

[BlackCountryBusSpotter]

I wonder what buses will be on the 41 and will they navigate the narrow streets

Diamond used to use Solo's now use Mellors assuming they get small e200's like the 7×× at NX they might get around 

[Wba_lad]

Diamond used to use Solo's now use Mellors assuming they get small e200's like the 7×× at NX they might get around

The little enviro 200s will get around a peice of cake, a inspector at diamond has got a enviro 300 around there once and one of the volvo plaxtom centres tight but doable.