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Fare rise and ticket changes July 2023

Started by Ginger66, June 18, 2023, 08:56:17 PM

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Ginger66

Is there any bus fare rises happen next month someone on Facebook posted the fares are going up on July 3rd from £2:40 (£2.00cap) to £2.70, surely higher fares will deter passengers and surely it wise to raise the fares.

Stu

Quote from: Ginger66 on June 18, 2023, 08:56:17 PMIs there any bus fare rises happen next month someone on Facebook posted the fares are going up.
I have seen something posted on another website where a similar claim was made about NX and Diamond increasing fares next month.

To be honest, I wouldn't blame them if they did, but then any announcement of fare rises would probably be left to the last minute, as no-one wants to give advance notice of "bad news" really!

But then again I don't know how true this is, after all it is TfWM constantly boasting about fares being frozen until 2025, so it would make them look silly if the two biggest operators put their fares up.

Also both operators are committed to the Government's Help For Households scheme that caps single fares at £2.00 until November 2023, so it would only be day and season ticket prices that could increase.
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Coventrybususer95

    the max they can charge after October the 31st is £2.50 until November 2024 then after they can charge as much as they want 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-extends-2-bus-fare-cap-and-protects-vital-services
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Coventrybususer95

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Quote from: 2206 on June 18, 2023, 10:06:15 PMcj on Twitter: "First I've seen of this @nxwestmidlands any chance you can link me to the information please, only seen this on a Facebook group. https://t.co/5Rdceztfsp" / Twitter
That's not going to end well 😂

Wonder how Andy and the public will react to nx charging more then the government's limit of 2.50 i for one can't see many people paying 2.70 when they have been told it's will only increase by 50p
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2206

#5
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on June 18, 2023, 10:11:26 PMThat's not going to end well 😂

Wonder how Andy and the public will react to nx charging more then the government's limit of 2.50 i for one can't see many people paying 2.70 when they have been told it's will only increase by 50p
Also wonder do the £1 concession tickets stay?

Not long ago both NX and TFWM were saying fares were to be frozen for 3 years till 2025.
https://www.wmca.org.uk/news/bus-fares-frozen-for-three-years-as-part-of-plan-to-get-more-people-on-board/

If its true they'd be effectively withdrawing from the scheme.
There are already some operators not participating in the scheme. TGB charging £3.60 single £6.00 rate on local bus services for instance.
https://mytrip.today/tickets/product-category/22b0470c-eec9-5af7-9153-cf67b8405404

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Coventrybususer95

Quote from: 2206 on June 18, 2023, 10:29:07 PMAlso wonder do the £1 concession tickets stay?

Not long ago both NX and TFWM were saying fares were to be frozen for 3 years till 2025.
https://www.wmca.org.uk/news/bus-fares-frozen-for-three-years-as-part-of-plan-to-get-more-people-on-board/

If its true they'd be effectively withdrawing from the scheme.
There are already some operators not participating in the scheme. TGB charging £3.60 single £6.00 rate on local bus services for instance.
https://mytrip.today/tickets/product-category/22b0470c-eec9-5af7-9153-cf67b8405404


Makes you wonder if the MD has decided to go against TFWM and rise bus fares, or if it was posted months earlier then it was meant to be made public 
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ellspurs

Or this was put in place before the government announced the extension of the scheme so they could extract more subsidy from the government scheme? Probably a silly idea but without knowing how the scheme operates, I assume Arriva/Stagecoach are extracting more subsidies from the scheme because of their initial higher ticket prices.

If someone knows how the subsidy is being paid out, please could you share, thanks.

2900

it'll be drivers getting the blame from joe public  for pay rises,  The fares rises still don't apply to those who hop on hop off with no intention on paying. The current fares aren't they like a limited time sale price sure its on the cab door. 

Straightlines

Quote from: 2900 on June 19, 2023, 08:08:11 AMit'll be drivers getting the blame from joe public  for pay rises,  The fares rises still don't apply to those who hop on hop off with no intention on paying. The current fares aren't they like a limited time sale price sure its on the cab door.
Well I guess the 16.2% increase has to be paid for from somewhere!

Coventrybususer95

What will happen if someone pays £2.50 😂

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Coventrybususer95

Quote from: Straightlines on June 19, 2023, 09:48:56 AMWell I guess the 16.2% increase has to be paid for from somewhere!
I can feel another Strike coming as people won't be happy with the government saying £2.50 will be the max till November 2024 and then nx upping  to 2.70
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Lukeee

Quote from: 2206 on June 18, 2023, 10:29:07 PMAlso wonder do the £1 concession tickets stay?

Not long ago both NX and TFWM were saying fares were to be frozen for 3 years till 2025.
https://www.wmca.org.uk/news/bus-fares-frozen-for-three-years-as-part-of-plan-to-get-more-people-on-board/

If its true they'd be effectively withdrawing from the scheme.
There are already some operators not participating in the scheme. TGB charging £3.60 single £6.00 rate on local bus services for instance.
https://mytrip.today/tickets/product-category/22b0470c-eec9-5af7-9153-cf67b8405404


It's £1.20 for confessions 

winston

Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on June 19, 2023, 10:11:46 AMI can feel another Strike coming as people won't be happy with the government saying £2.50 will be the max till November 2024 and then nx upping  to 2.70
Your barking up the wrong tree! Unless NX leave the Government fare cap scheme, the max £2 & £2.50 single fare caps will remain in place for the current duration & the Goverment will have to pick up the tab to cover for any extra price increase. Only daysaver tickets & passes can phyisically rise in price for passenegers.

Coventrybususer95

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https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/fare-and-ticket-changes-from-3rd-july-2023

Info is on the website.



Let's hope the numbers don't drop to much can't see many people using the buses after this
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