Another big order announced today

[Tony]

How's route 51 going? 😜

The infrastructure is there. It's the possibility of a large increase in Hydrogen costs, and the driver shortage that is meaning only 6 are used each day at the moment 

[Solo1]

Which is cheaper to run electric or hydrogen 

[Gareth]

Which is cheaper to run electric or hydrogen over desil

Well if it's hydrogen we're screwed  If they can't afford to run more than 6 buses a day.

With 600 electrics in service by end of next year, I'd imagine they're cheaper.

[Tony]

Well if it's electric, we're screwed with 600 of the things coming by next year If they can't afford to run more than 6 hydrogen buses a day.

I don't see the link

If Hydrogen goes up to £40 per kilo which there's worries it might it makes the Buses extremely expensive to run. Whereas electricity at 10p per k/w is much cheaper than diesel

[Westy]

Anyone read Nx's Facebook page today?

A 'regular contributer' has had his say over the hydrogens.

[suavegarv]

I don't see the link

If Hydrogen goes up to £40 per kilo which there's worries it might it makes the Buses extremely expensive to run. Whereas electricity at 10p per k/w is much cheaper than diesel

Presumably,this increasing cost will impact future sales and interest from other operators?

[Celestial Toymaker]

The infrastructure is there. It's the possibility of a large increase in Hydrogen costs, and the driver shortage that is meaning only 6 are used each day at the moment

Will AG get Electrics or Hydrogens at all ?
Im interested to see how they cope with 11A/11C which reminds me, are they keeping it as it is on 11A/11C or are they going to reconnect the full route ?
with so many buses now using City Road . Dudley Road, is it not time to make a small change to the 11A/11C (city rd, portland rd, gillott rd, selwyn rd, city rd then normal line of route) just an idea

[BBS]

Will AG get Electrics or Hydrogens at all ?
Im interested to see how they cope with 11A/11C which reminds me, are they keeping it as it is on 11A/11C or are they going to reconnect the full route ?
with so many buses now using City Road . Dudley Road, is it not time to make a small change to the 11A/11C (city rd, portland rd, gillott rd, selwyn rd, city rd then normal line of route) just an idea

4/4A needs the upgrade most imo 

[filbus1]

Will AG get Electrics or Hydrogens at all ?
Im interested to see how they cope with 11A/11C which reminds me, are they keeping it as it is on 11A/11C or are they going to reconnect the full route ?
with so many buses now using City Road . Dudley Road, is it not time to make a small change to the 11A/11C (city rd, portland rd, gillott rd, selwyn rd, city rd then normal line of route) just an idea

AG will be electric, hydrogens can't be kept inside buildings. 

[Solo1]

AG will be electric, hydrogens can't be kept inside buildings.

So if the hydrogen buses need repair how do they fix them outside 

[Tony]

AG will be electric, hydrogens can't be kept inside buildings.

Hydrogens can be parked inside in a garage with the correct ventilation which a lot of older garage have to let the diesel fumes out.

[Gareth]

Will AG get Electrics or Hydrogens at all ?
Im interested to see how they cope with 11A/11C which reminds me, are they keeping it as it is on 11A/11C or are they going to reconnect the full route ?
with so many buses now using City Road . Dudley Road, is it not time to make a small change to the 11A/11C (city rd, portland rd, gillott rd, selwyn rd, city rd then normal line of route) just an idea

The whole fleet will be zero emission within a few years, so even if a garage doesn't get anything new this time, it's only a matter of time.

[Celestial Toymaker]

4/4A needs the upgrade most imo

i never suggested AG or the 11A / 11C needed an upgrade, i merely stated a fact that i would be interested to see how the Electrics or Hydrogens would cope with life on there

[BBS]

i never suggested AG or the 11A / 11C needed an upgrade, i merely stated a fact that i would be interested to see how the Electrics or Hydrogens would cope with life on there

AG generally does need a upgrade, they have loads of non euro 6 buses which seem to slowly be leaving the fleet 

[Stu]

AG generally does need a upgrade, they have loads of non euro 6 buses which seem to slowly be leaving the fleet

The non-EU6 vehicles will need to be gone by May this year, so I'm pretty sure there's already a plan to deal with those few remaining at AG as well as other garages.