Fare Cap

[Westy]

I understand that it doesn't make financial sense to do so but I think now would be an appropriate time to bring back the short hop, perhaps at the higher price of £2 rather than £1.50 for those who really are just using the bus for really short journeys.

But surely people would cheat by riding past their stop?

[Steve3229vp]

I understand that it doesn't make financial sense to do so but I think now would be an appropriate time to bring back the short hop, perhaps at the higher price of £2 rather than £1.50 for those who really are just using the bus for really short journeys.

No, it was abused by many who beyond where they said they were going

[Marge559]

I understand that it doesn't make financial sense to do so but I think now would be an appropriate time to bring back the short hop, perhaps at the higher price of £2 rather than £1.50 for those who really are just using the bus for really short journeys.

I agree!

[karl724223]

Kids daysavers and student tickets will be even more popular come jan 5th

[Stu]

https://x.com/RichParkerLab/status/1868660340902531486

As far as I am aware, Transport for West Midlands already "took control" of bus fares, when operator-only tickets were scrapped and replaced with nBus, and it is TfWM who set the maximum single fare, in consultation with all bus operators, not just National Express.

I see this statement from Richard Parker as a bit dishonest, as it was TfWM who increased the single fare to £2.90 back in June, when other nBus prices increased.

Mark my words, this is just the start of a propaganda exercise, designed to soften up and condition people into becoming "pro-franchising".

[cardew]

https://x.com/RichParkerLab/status/1868660340902531486

As far as I am aware, Transport for West Midlands already "took control" of bus fares, when operator-only tickets were scrapped and replaced with nBus, and it is TfWM who set the maximum single fare, in consultation with all bus operators, not just National Express.

I see this statement from Richard Parker as a bit dishonest, as it was TfWM who increased the single fare to £2.90 back in June, when other nBus prices increased.

Mark my words, this is just the start of a propaganda exercise, designed to soften up and condition people into becoming "pro-franchising".

Indeed, misleading to put it mildly.

Unfortunately I can't see the replies as I binned off twitter when Musk wrecked it but I am sure our on-the-ball local media will hold his claims to account. Yeah, right.

[BlackCountryBusSpotter]

Indeed, misleading to put it mildly.

Unfortunately I can't see the replies as I binned off twitter when Musk wrecked it but I am sure our on-the-ball local media will hold his claims to account. Yeah, right.

Only the other day he was in Walsall or Wolverhampton he always seem to be at one of them in the Paper speaking to people about Franchising, a couple of days this is announced, he certainly has a tendency to be in the right place at the right time, Stand outside a bus station speak to mostly Older folk about Franchising two days later Express Dissapointment at the price of a single going up, but hang on his government has put it up to £3 it's now £2.90 10p less than the government cap which Idk Andy Burnham might use, so actually Richard mate it's below the National Average, you probably also did nothing to keep prices frozen as NX has only ever put up the Single Fare and Daysaver inline with National and Local changes. But Politicians always do this and sadly people believe it 

[LD713821]

https://x.com/RichParkerLab/status/1868660340902531486

As far as I am aware, Transport for West Midlands already "took control" of bus fares, when operator-only tickets were scrapped and replaced with nBus, and it is TfWM who set the maximum single fare, in consultation with all bus operators, not just National Express.

I see this statement from Richard Parker as a bit dishonest, as it was TfWM who increased the single fare to £2.90 back in June, when other nBus prices increased.

Mark my words, this is just the start of a propaganda exercise, designed to soften up and condition people into becoming "pro-franchising".

They took control over most bus fares not all, single tickets are still decided by the operator.
For TFWM Rotue Tenders, single ticket prices are not allowed to exceed the 'dominant operator' price however (NX)
Walsall Community Transport has £3.00 adult return, £1.00 child single ext

[ellspurs]

Diamond will also be changing their fares to the £3 cap.

Richard Parker does not like NX.

[2206]

Diamond will also be changing their fares to the £3 cap.

Richard Parker does not like NX.

I'm presuming they will be £3 on services in the Kidderminster, Redditch, Tamworth & Burton areas? But you'd expect they'd keep it at £2.90 for journeys in the WM area?
Bar the 51/57/58 which are going to have a £2.50 special as well.

https://www.diamondbuses.com/news/ww-fare-cap-and-fare-changes/

[j789]

So a Richard can be called Dick by all accounts. Seems rather apt in this case!!!

Typical political idiot spouting untruths. Labour could have held the fare cap at £2 if they really had wanted to. It's not the operators fault this government is proving so inept.

[Tony]

So a Richard can be called Dick by all accounts. Seems rather apt in this case!!!

Typical political idiot spouting untruths. Labour could have held the fare cap at £2 if they really had wanted to. It's not the operators fault this government is proving so inept.

Metro mayors also have the choice to do it as well, several other Metro Mayors are keeping the £2 cap

[cardew]

Metro mayors also have the choice to do it as well, several other Metro Mayors are keeping the £2 cap

Exactly, and I believe the mayors of not-yet-franchised Liverpool and West Yorkshire are using BSIP funds to finance it and  even then only confirmed it until the end of March. 

Also was the single ticket price £2.40 when the previous government introduced the cap? If so £2.90 is probably an accurate reflection of inflation since then.

[ellspurs]

I'm presuming they will be £3 on services in the Kidderminster, Redditch, Tamworth & Burton areas? But you'd expect they'd keep it at £2.90 for journeys in the WM area?
Bar the 51/57/58 which are going to have a £2.50 special as well.

https://www.diamondbuses.com/news/ww-fare-cap-and-fare-changes/

When I looked at Diamond's website yesterday, West Midlands was listed under the £3 fare. It seems they've updated it since then to change the West Midlands to £2.90.

[Stu]

Exactly, and I believe the mayors of not-yet-franchised Liverpool and West Yorkshire are using BSIP funds to finance it and  even then only confirmed it until the end of March.

Also was the single ticket price £2.40 when the previous government introduced the cap? If so £2.90 is probably an accurate reflection of inflation since then.

It was £2.40 when the cap was introduced, then at some point - I don't recall exactly when - it increased to £2.70, and then increased to £2.90 in June this year.