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Started by monkeyjoe, December 08, 2022, 10:00:13 PM

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ellspurs

Quote from: Stu on December 17, 2022, 01:41:15 PMTimetables for 41 and 46 are now on the TfWM website.
If the turn point in Kings Heath is accurate for the 46 ho boy they're going to have fun doing that.

BBS

QuoteIf the turn point in Kings Heath is accurate for the 46 ho boy they're going to have fun doing that.
Damn that turn point sounds difficult as hell. 
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

SO6597

Agreed, re: 46 turning in Kings Heath. 

From the map, it looks like Springfield Rd and Woodville Rd are being used to turn around. 

The former, fine. As for the latter...it'd be far better to reinstate the All Saints Rd terminus. 

I don't think a bus has ever been routed down this road before. The turns at both ends of the road are very tight and cars are always parked on both sides (it's not a one way road either). 


Stu

Quote from: SO6597 on December 18, 2022, 10:49:15 AMAgreed, re: 46 turning in Kings Heath.

From the map, it looks like Springfield Rd and Woodville Rd are being used to turn around.

The former, fine. As for the latter...it'd be far better to reinstate the All Saints Rd terminus.

I don't think a bus has ever been routed down this road before. The turns at both ends of the road are very tight and cars are always parked on both sides (it's not a one way road either).


The current 34 uses Springfield Road, Poplar Road, Woodville Road and Heathfield Road before terminating on High Street, according to the TfWM map.

However looking on BusTimes, it seems the drivers are using Valentine Road instead to get onto the High Street.
My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

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Mike K

Quote from: Stu on December 18, 2022, 10:59:41 AMThe current 34 uses Springfield Road, Poplar Road, Woodville Road and Heathfield Road before terminating on High Street, according to the TfWM map.

However looking on BusTimes, it seems the drivers are using Valentine Road instead to get onto the High Street.
Agree with previous posts re All Saints Road being a more sensible option. Poplar Road and Woodville Road can be a pain in the backside when driving a car due to the parking on both sides and meeting traffic coming on the opposite direction. I can't see that routing working.

What size buses does the 34 use? As that turn from Valentine Road back onto Kings Heath High Street would be too tight for a full sized single decker (assuming that's what Stagecoach would use?).

EK40

Quote from: Mike K on December 18, 2022, 11:34:11 AMAgree with previous posts re All Saints Road being a more sensible option. Poplar Road and Woodville Road can be a pain in the backside when driving a car due to the parking on both sides and meeting traffic coming on the opposite direction. I can't see that routing working.

What size buses does the 34 use? As that turn from Valentine Road back onto Kings Heath High Street would be too tight for a full sized single decker (assuming that's what Stagecoach would use?).
rugby doesnt have any full size singles iirc only 2 darts with the rest being e200s

Stu

Quote from: Mike K on December 18, 2022, 11:34:11 AMWhat size buses does the 34 use? As that turn from Valentine Road back onto Kings Heath High Street would be too tight for a full sized single decker (assuming that's what Stagecoach would use?).
The 34 is mainly Mellor operated. The 69 also does the same approach now it seems, and that is mostly Mellor and Solo operated.

My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

West Midlands Bus Users: Website | Facebook | X/Twitter | Bluesky

Jack D

Sunday 1st January
No service, except on routes 60, 46, A9 & 7(C) will run a Sunday service

Taken from stagecoach website suggesting, A9 has a Sunday service which the 58 did not.

Stu

Quote from: Jack D on December 19, 2022, 07:08:52 PMSunday 1st January
No service, except on routes 60, 46, A9 & 7(C) will run a Sunday service

Taken from stagecoach website suggesting, A9 has a Sunday service which the 58 did not.
Yes, it appears to be the case, the tender spec for the A9 included addition of Sunday journeys.

The other bonus is that the 46 does the full route on Sundays, which includes the section from QE to Northfield via Weoley Castle not currently served by the 48 on Sundays.
My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

West Midlands Bus Users: Website | Facebook | X/Twitter | Bluesky

Jack D

Any updates regarding maps and timetables for A9 or any Birmingham mentioned on the Stagecoach website with 9 days to go!

Matt.N0056

Quote from: Jack D on December 21, 2022, 04:05:16 PMAny updates regarding maps and timetables for A9 or any Birmingham mentioned on the Stagecoach website with 9 days to go!
Timetables now on Stagecoach's website. 
They have been route learning the last couple of days, but Twitter suggests still numerous journeys not operating on their current routes...

metrocity

Quote from: Matt.N0056 on December 21, 2022, 04:10:18 PMTimetables now on Stagecoach's website.
They have been route learning the last couple of days, but Twitter suggests still numerous journeys not operating on their current routes...
A bus packed full of drivers learning the routes yesterday aswell from what I can gather - how bizzare !

MW

Not sure about the Sunday timetable on the A9... 

The current A8 takes 20 mins from Solihull to Blythe Valley whilst the A9 takes 26 mins, despite the A9 being the more direct and relatively traffic free route.

Similarly, the return journey from Blythe Valley to Solihull takes 23 mins on the A7, and 33 mins on the A9.


GoldenSquid

Interesting to see an hour gap in service, on the A9. Going into Solihull around 8am with arrivals from Fordbirdge arriving in Solihull at 0810 and 0917.
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Jack D

Quote from: GoldenSquid on December 21, 2022, 07:30:05 PMInteresting to see an hour gap in service, on the A9. Going into Solihull around 8am with arrivals from Fordbirdge arriving in Solihull at 0810 and 0917.
Always been that was on the 58

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