New Year 2023 service changes Coventry

[Rachvince53]

It has been changed to 7 on the Stagecoach website now.

[JPC]

20A - Timetable COMING SOON

I imagine this must be a typo for 20C? - a final piece in the jigsaw of replacement bus services, it could potentially be a shorter route i.e tendered from UHCW to Arena Park/Foleshill, but as they're seemingly using the number 20 I guess Stagecoach are extending to the City Centre under their own steam - possibly in unison with a NXC '20E'.

[Coventrybususer95]

I imagine this must be a typo for 20C? - a final piece in the jigsaw of replacement bus services, it could potentially be a shorter route i.e tendered from UHCW to Arena Park/Foleshill, but as they're seemingly using the number 20 I guess Stagecoach are extending to the City Centre under their own steam - possibly in unison with a NXC '20E'.

Could be a replacement for the 20C

[stellasteve]

Stagecoach website now with full timetables. 20A seems to just be 3 evening departures to the hospital (21.00, 22.00, 23.00) from Trinity Street and back again at each half hour. 51 includes the current 1, 5 and 20C to extend to the hospital in the daytime, giving Coundon and Radford a direct service to the hospital not seen since the outer circle was cut. The one thing which has confused me is the stop labelled "Coundon Bablake School" which i presume is a typo for Westhill Road/Courtland Avenue where the 1 currently terminates. Hopefully this service will get more patronage with the extra links so it doesn't get given the same fate as many other routes in the city.

[paulb1973]

Stagecoach website now with full timetables. 20A seems to just be 3 evening departures to the hospital (21.00, 22.00, 23.00) from Trinity Street and back again at each half hour. 51 includes the current 1, 5 and 20C to extend to the hospital in the daytime, giving Coundon and Radford a direct service to the hospital not seen since the outer circle was cut. The one thing which has confused me is the stop labelled "Coundon Bablake School" which i presume is a typo for Westhill Road/Courtland Avenue where the 1 currently terminates. Hopefully this service will get more patronage with the extra links so it doesn't get given the same fate as many other routes in the city.

The school grounds on Hollyfast Rd/Westhill Rd belongs to Bablake School. The school house is opposite Gaveston Road.

[JPC]

Stagecoach website now with full timetables. 20A seems to just be 3 evening departures to the hospital (21.00, 22.00, 23.00) from Trinity Street and back again at each half hour. 51 includes the current 1, 5 and 20C to extend to the hospital in the daytime, giving Coundon and Radford a direct service to the hospital not seen since the outer circle was cut. The one thing which has confused me is the stop labelled "Coundon Bablake School" which i presume is a typo for Westhill Road/Courtland Avenue where the 1 currently terminates. Hopefully this service will get more patronage with the extra links so it doesn't get given the same fate as many other routes in the city.

Ha! In the first post of this thread I did hint the assumption of a 'semi-orbital' type route being put out to tender encompassing bits of the 1/5/20C/31, so here we have it....
This long 51 service looks OK in principal and I agree with the extra links etc, but I see a few flaws, 1) it seems Everdon Rd isn't served. 2) the inbound schedule at Earlsdon isn't co-ordinated headway with the existing NXC service 2, Earlsdon will have two inbound buses 12 mins apart then a 48 minute gap each hour for most of the day, why or how TfWM are allowing this to happen I don't know but the reason would be so there isn't more than three buses on the 51 service.

[Steveminor]

but the reason would be so there isn't more than three buses on the 51 service.

That seems a reasonable assumption, more buses equals more cost!!

[Tony]

That seems a reasonable assumption, more buses equals more cost!!

probably looking at £40-£50 an hour to run a bus at the moment, average income per passenger is around £1 average when you take in pass use, so would putting an extra bus on the route from 07:00 to 19:00 attract another c500 people to use the service is what you have to look at.

[JPC]

It looks like service 2 has received a sneaky removal of it's Sunday service, fair enough they were short journeys and probably not carrying much, but no obvious announcement about this by any party nor any variation on the registration (yet).

The 16 now interworks with 5/5A (Sundays/Evenings).

[Danthebusman]

Wonder if the 16 will see singles during weekdays since the 17 is going to be seeing more deckers with its interworking with the 9

[BNH2004]

Wonder if the 16 will see singles during weekdays since the 17 is going to be seeing more deckers with its interworking with the 9

Probably be the same allocation as it was before as 16 is a WN route and 17 and 9 was a PN route

[2206]

Probably be the same allocation as it was before as 16 is a WN route and 17 and 9 was a PN route

They're talking about the Coventry 16, 17, 9.
Which is a very long way East from Wombourne.

[ellspurs]

They're talking about the Coventry 16, 17, 9.
Which is a very long way East from Wombourne.

Just about as far as Stagecoach doing the Birmingham runs from Rugby!

[stellasteve]

The Stagecoach version of the 7 is now numbered 7C which I believe someone mentioned before but another person said it was wrong. The full destination into city on 26219 says 7C Pool Meadow via Holyhead Road - likely to differentiate from the National Express 7. Passenger numbers have taken a hit even for a bank holiday though - only 3 passengers including myself were on the bus during my journey compared to a constant 10-15 on the NX 7.

[JPC]

It looks like service 2 has received a sneaky removal of it's Sunday service, fair enough they were short journeys and probably not carrying much, but no obvious announcement about this by any party nor any variation on the registration (yet).

Judging by Bustimes history it would appear the Sunday service wasn't operated on service 2 for the month of January! - did that really happen?,
Since 5th Feb it's has a vehicle (B7RLE) shuttling 16 minutes each way every hour, I suppose there was no thought in extending these short journeys to Herald Avenue Sainsburys at least and link with other routes.