Service Changes From 30th October 2022

[MasterPlan]

So after increasing services, they are being reduced again? Is this driver shortages or just bus usage not recovering ?

Most of them are only by 1-3 mins though. Bit of a difference between that and sayba 20 min frequency becoming 30 mins or 30 becoming 60.

I am curious also to know the reasoning though.

The NXWM website refers to changes in frequencies; what it should really say is reduction in frequencies, because those are the facts.

Like a lot of people, I'm back to using the bus a lot more frequently now as my employer transitions away from working from home for at least part of the week. For the last few weeks rush hour 23s and 24s have been packed, and in many cases struggled to cope with passenger loads. Disappointing therefore to find that frequencies are being reduced again. If anything, I was thinking additional peak time journeys might be needed.

If it's down to driver shortages then I guess it can't be helped, but would be interesting to know if it was due to reduced patronage, driver shortages or both.

To be fair most routes that I see regularly seem to be doing quite well in terms of passenger numbers from what I've seen. I know what you mean though, it's rare these days for an X21 or X22 not to be packed at peak times.

[Stu]

They're still in progress putting them on though.

Eg there's a link for the 41 change, but nothing for the 9 yet!

One mistake on there:

• 3 | Birmingham - Yardley Wood (via Sparkbrook, Stoney Lane & Billesley - Monday to Friday timetable will be reduced to every 10-15 minutes and Saturday timetable will be reduced to every 15 minutes

Either that's the wrong 3, or its supposed to just read as returning to normal line of route in Digbeth, same as the 2. (3 is already every 20 minutes!)

[monkeyjoe]

several mistakes on there after reading..

[2206]

Most of them are only by 1-3 mins though. Bit of a difference between that and sayba 20 min frequency becoming 30 mins or 30 becoming 60.

I am curious also to know the reasoning though.

To be fair most routes that I see regularly seem to be doing quite well in terms of passenger numbers from what I've seen. I know what you mean though, it's rare these days for an X21 or X22 not to be packed at peak times.

BC had another late night 94/95 missing last night, so could be they don't have enough drivers to even run the late night services i'm guessing. 21:50 to Birmingham, 22:30 to Chelmsley Wood. The late evenings have a PVR of 6 and they only seemed to have 5 vehicles on the road.
But if they're going to pull services it surely makes far more sense to reduce the timetable 97 service which runs every 15 minutes at that time than leave an hour gap in service on parts of the 94 & 95.

The 48 was in the TFWM document on services to be cut later in the year, so guessing that ones due to low usage.

[winston]

The NXWM website refers to changes in frequencies; what it should really say is reduction in frequencies, because those are the facts.

Like a lot of people, I'm back to using the bus a lot more frequently now as my employer transitions away from working from home for at least part of the week. For the last few weeks rush hour 23s and 24s have been packed, and in many cases struggled to cope with passenger loads. Disappointing therefore to find that frequencies are being reduced again. If anything, I was thinking additional peak time journeys might be needed.

If it's down to driver shortages then I guess it can't be helped, but would be interesting to know if it was due to reduced patronage, driver shortages or both.

The frequency reductions are largely down to on-going driver shortages

[mesub]

The frequency reductions are largely down to on-going driver shortages

That possibly means that there may be some increases in frequency later on?

[winston]

That possibly means that there may be some increases in frequency later on?

I wouldn't hold your breathe, there's likely to be some more frequency reductions to follow the current list, prior to 01.01.23

[BN]

Not sure if it should.d be here or unusual workings but from this date WN59 is going converted Hybrids

[WalsallBuses2007]

Not sure if it should.d be here or unusual workings but from this date WN59 is going converted Hybrids

Are the hybrids still used on the 1 i presume there is enough hybrids to cover the 59 aswell then 

[BNH2004]

Are the hybrids still used on the 1 i presume there is enough hybrids to cover the 59 aswell then

There's not enough hybrids at WN for every running board on the 1 and 59, as there are frequently Tridents, Eclipses and Platinums on the 1

[Tony]

There's not enough hybrids at WN for every running board on the 1 and 59, as there are frequently Tridents, Eclipses and Platinums on the 1

There's plenty, how many buses do you think are on those two routes

[Rachvince53]

The new Walsall 9 timetable is available for download on the TfWM website. Search for the timetables for service 9 and then follow the links. 

[don]

There's plenty, how many buses do you think are on those two routes

There are 30 (if all are in service) but they also use them on the 15, 16 and also in ones/twos on the 2. (Ps not wishing to be an armchair mod but would this conversation, from @BN 's post, be better in the Wolverhampton Garage thread - for anyone picking this change up later)? 

[BN]

There's not enough hybrids at WN for every running board on the 1 and 59, as there are frequently Tridents, Eclipses and Platinums on the 1

That's why I said converted hybrids on the 59

[BN]

Are the hybrids still used on the 1 i presume there is enough hybrids to cover the 59 aswell then

No there isn't. The converted ones on the 59, leaves of hybrids plenty for the 1