Arriva take over Midland

[winston]

If National Express took over Arriva Cannock, how long before Cannock was shut & operations transferred to Wolves & Walsall?

Alternatively would it be possible for NX to purchase land somewhere in South Staffs & build a 'super depot' to replace Cannock, Wolves & Walsall?

I understand the original intention was to operate Arriva's Cannock routes from TWM Walsall, but the deal never came off & is unlikely to happen now....

Acquiring a former First subsidiary/operation seems more likely currently

[Bob]

Pity, it wouldve been so much better for passengers if that had happened

[Westy]

Pity, it wouldve been so much better for passengers if that had happened

Yeah, I would still had NX down my road, instead of Arriva!

[Bob]

lol. With better buses and cheaper( £2.20 cheaper!!) Daysavers!

[andyr]

Better buses? Please do not think nxwm are perfect! The interior condition of some of there buses is nothing short of disguting. Heaters not working, thread bear dirty seats windows etched and other windows that have not been cleaned for weeks if not months! Rose tinted specs, dont sit well.

[Andrew1991]

Better buses? Please do not think nxwm are perfect! The interior condition of some of there buses is nothing short of disguting. Heaters not working, thread bear dirty seats windows etched and other windows that have not been cleaned for weeks if not months! Rose tinted specs, dont sit well.

That said, nxwm are actually refurbing their buses.

[andyr]

Refurbishing yes, but once the bus has been done there is no signs that there being looked after. its typical that a WA based B7 been on 89/01. After one round trip when i catch it the seats refurbed or not are covered in dust,dirt and filth and its obvious the floor and windows have mot been cleaned!

[Tony]

Refurbishing yes, but once the bus has been done there is no signs that there being looked after. its typical that a WA based B7 been on 89/01. After one round trip when i catch it the seats refurbed or not are covered in dust,dirt and filth and its obvious the floor and windows have mot been cleaned!

The floors on all Walsall buses get cleaned every night. It would be very expensive to clean the inside of the windows and the seats every night. It takes 3 to 4 hours to do a full clean on a bus, that would mean about 90 cleaners per night, so would need a staff of about 120 to cover days off, holidays & sickness.

[winston]

Refurbishing yes, but once the bus has been done there is no signs that there being looked after. its typical that a WA based B7 been on 89/01. After one round trip when i catch it the seats refurbed or not are covered in dust,dirt and filth and its obvious the floor and windows have mot been cleaned!

The floors on all Walsall buses get cleaned every night. It would be very expensive to clean the inside of the windows and the seats every night. It takes 3 to 4 hours to do a full clean on a bus, that would mean about 90 cleaners per night, so would need a staff of about 120 to cover days off, holidays & sickness.

This time of year, the floors of buses will get dirty very quickly especially if its wet & windows get dirty/marked as passengers wipe them when after they steam up

[Bob]

I dont just mean better quality interiors ( although compared with 3 of Cannocks SB120s, even the worst nxwm bus would look like a showbus) but mechanical maintanence wise, loads of cannocks buses have screeching brakes rattles and bangs, black smoke coming out the back and some reek of fumes at the back on the inside! I remember being on a B10BLE a couple of months back with masking tape holding one of the windows in!!!!

[Tony]

I dont just mean better quality interiors ( although compared with 3 of Cannocks SB120s, even the worst nxwm bus would look like a showbus) but mechanical maintanence wise, loads of cannocks buses have screeching brakes rattles and bangs, black smoke coming out the back and some reek of fumes at the back on the inside! I remember being on a B10BLE a couple of months back with masking tape holding one of the windows in!!!!

masking tape would not be holding a window in! masking tape wouldn't hold anything in, the point of it is it is easily removed. I suspect some painting or glueing had been done and the tape not removed.

[2200 Bus]

I dont just mean better quality interiors ( although compared with 3 of Cannocks SB120s, even the worst nxwm bus would look like a showbus) but mechanical maintanence wise, loads of cannocks buses have screeching brakes rattles and bangs, black smoke coming out the back and some reek of fumes at the back on the inside! I remember being on a B10BLE a couple of months back with masking tape holding one of the windows in!!!!

masking tape would not be holding a window in! masking tape wouldn't hold anything in, the point of it is it is easily removed. I suspect some painting or glueing had been done and the tape not removed.

Would of most likely been black silicone covered with tape

[Bob]

On the subject of Cannocks fleet does anyone know if theres any truth in the rumours about the five 57 plate Stafford branded Sb200s being moved elsewhere???

[arrivaaston]

I haven't seen 3727 for abit.........

[Bob]

ive noticed that there have been the odd unbranded bus on the 74/5 the last couple of weeks. I wonder if theyll move to another depot or be used to upgrade another Cannock service. Theyd be good for the 1