Proposed NX takeover of Stagecoach

[BBS]

Possibly NX Cov could be merged with the Stagecoach area to become NX South Midlands.

yes and making all the coventry routes electric

[Stevo]

I wonder if the NXWM fleets will be renumbered into the Stagecoach series. Lots of work for Tony on this site if they do! 2201

[Tony]

I'm aware the new enlarged NX will become a Megabus Contractor to ComfortDelgro.

But unless the local bus services & assets are moved from MRS Limited to say WMT Ltd or a new holding company, they currently appear to be included in the sale too. There is also potential for CMA action over NXC & Stagecoach Wawickshire too.

No, they are not included in the sale, remember Midland Red (South) isn't just Warwickshire. It's Northampton, Bedford and Kettering as well. Only the Megabus support services provided by MRS are included

[winston]

No, they are not included in the sale, remember Midland Red (South) isn't just Warwickshire. It's Northampton, Bedford and Kettering as well. Only the Megabus support services provided by MRS are included

Thanks for the confirmation, I didn't realise Northampton, Bedford & Kettering were under MRS Ltd too. I'll remove my posts & any replies to save any confusion.

[markcf83]

Thanks for the confirmation, I didn't realise Northampton, Bedford & Kettering were under MRS Ltd too. I'll remove my posts & any replies to save any confusion.

I thought Bedford was controlled from Cambridge.

[Ian Hardy]

I thought Bedford was controlled from Cambridge.

Bedford is part of Stagecoach East, it moved in August 2010 when the rest of the United Counties was merged with Stagecoach Midland Red South to create Stagecoach Midlands, that is apart from Banbury which was moved to become part of Stagecoach Oxford, which has just been merged with Stagecoach West.

[JoNi]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60138218#:~:text=A%20%C2%A31.9bn%20merger,Express%2C%20was%20agreed%20in%20December.

[monkeyjoe]

Has anyone read how long the probe will take. Remember the Asda / Sainsburys one taking some time.

[Justin Tyme]

Has anyone read how long the probe will take. Remember the Asda / Sainsburys one taking some time.

I expect we are talking months rather than weeks.  As two parties are working on a merger taking place towards the end of this year, they have no doubt factored in this possibility, and (if the go-ahead is given) it may not blow the timescale off course.

[DJ]

Has anyone read how long the probe will take. Remember the Asda / Sainsburys one taking some time.

There's no time scale for it currently, I was told it could be weeks, months, or even longer. We know as much as everyone else.

[tank90]

Has anyone read how long the probe will take. Remember the Asda / Sainsburys one taking some time.

But unlike the ASDA Sainsbury's merger this is very much different. This is in part due to the fact how the Bus sphere is changing with the franchising in some areas. The main difference is the fact there is only two conflicts NXC SMR and NX Coaches MegaBus. The other one which would have coursed a conflict was Sold off Dundee. Now yes I did say 2 but the CMA (or what ever they want to call themselves) may find NEATs and any other part of the NX operations as a conflict.

How ever to completely contradict my self it might not take as long as we think due to the fact that everything was passed ok in Redditch and Kidderminster for the FMR ops that were Sold to Rotala, due to Johnsons and Stagecoach running services in the area. And if I'm not mistaken Johnsons and Rotala run services in the NXC/SMR area too. So it shouldn't take as much time as thee failed ASDA Sainsbury's deal.

[monkeyjoe]

But unlike the ASDA Sainsbury's merger this is very much different. This is in part due to the fact how the Bus sphere is changing with the franchising in some areas. The main difference is the fact there is only two conflicts NXC SMR and NX Coaches MegaBus. The other one which would have coursed a conflict was Sold off Dundee. Now yes I did say 2 but the CMA (or what ever they want to call themselves) may find NEATs and any other part of the NX operations as a conflict.

How ever to completely contradict my self it might not take as long as we think due to the fact that everything was passed ok in Redditch and Kidderminster for the FMR ops that were Sold to Rotala, due to Johnsons and Stagecoach running services in the area. And if I'm not mistaken Johnsons and Rotala run services in the NXC/SMR area too. So it shouldn't take as much time as thee failed ASDA Sainsbury's deal.

You say that, but now they Covid as an excuse to slow things down lol

[Sandy Lane]

The main difference is the fact there is only two conflicts NXC SMR and NX Coaches MegaBus.

For the NXC SMR conflict could we see some services being given to Rotala? In Coventry they lost the X30 and the 1 a while back.

[j789]

For the NXC SMR conflict could we see some services being given to Rotala? In Coventry they lost the X30 and the 1 a while back.

From a passenger point of view it would be far better allowing the merger of the Stagecoach Midland and NXCov fleets as this would provide a far more integrated network than is currently available. Having to give up some routes is completely nonsensical as it breaks up the network and will just create another small operator network that in this current day and age won't be financially viable long term.

I hope the monopoly people see sense in this situation and see the bigger picture of where bus travel is headed. It's not 1986 anymore.

[Westy]

From a passenger point of view it would be far better allowing the merger of the Stagecoach Midland and NXCov fleets as this would provide a far more integrated network than is currently available. Having to give up some routes is completely nonsensical as it breaks up the network and will just create another small operator network that in this current day and age won't be financially viable long term.



I hope the monopoly people see sense in this situation and see the bigger picture of where bus travel is headed. It's not 1986 anymore.

Possible example might be Cannock?