Service Changes August 29th 2021.

[Jack]

I was just going by what a 58 driver told me today!

It would make more sense to interwork the 58 and 73, they use to on saturdays... makes more sense than interworking with the 72...

[Steveminor]

Some times people say something then it just gets misunderstood & blown out of all proportion.
I mean the post saying about shard end getting a direct link to the fort & Tony not realising the 96 was the service that was being talked about.
I just questioned if the 96 was still serving the fort if (if tony was suggesting there wouldn't be a link between shard end and the fort) all of a sudden theres talk of the 71 the 28 or the 11 changing to serve the fort.

[Steve3229vp]

It would make more sense to interwork the 58 and 73, they use to on saturdays... makes more sense than interworking with the 72...

How ? the 58 is every 30 mins and the 73 is every 20 mins !

[Sh4318]

How ? the 58 is every 30 mins and the 73 is every 20 mins !

The 73 was every 30 minutes on Saturdays

[Steve3229vp]

The 73 was every 30 minutes on Saturdays

The 73 is still every 20 minutes on Saturdays

[Jack]

I don't exactly think Erdington be left without a bus to the Fort... the 96 is staying so I don't understand why people are thinking its going from the Fort, if it did and had no replacement how are the workers going to get there as well as the as the Fort Parkway...
If the 38 and 96 were to be taken from the Fort would Holly Lane still have a bus? Other than the tendered 25?

Personally, I think the 11 would be a good contender to serve the Fort...

[monkeyjoe]

I don't exactly think Erdington be left without a bus to the Fort... the 96 is staying so I don't understand why people are thinking its going from the Fort, if it did and had no replacement how are the workers going to get there as well as the as the Fort Parkway...
If the 38 and 96 were to be taken from the Fort would Holly Lane still have a bus? Other than the tendered 25?

Personally, I think the 11 would be a good contender to serve the Fort...

They are having problems keeping time on the 11 hence recent changes, I cannot see the 11 serving the fort anytime soon.

[Stu]

Personally, I think the 11 would be a good contender to serve the Fort...

The 11 is struggling as it is for reliability, hence the recent changes, so I fail to see how making it branch off to serve the Fort shopping park would improve things.

The Fort is one of those places where people with cars will just drive to, there are of course other shopping centres with similar stores that are already more accessible by bus.

[2206]

The 11 is struggling as it is for reliability, hence the recent changes, so I fail to see how making it branch off to serve the Fort shopping park would improve things.

The Fort is one of those places where people with cars will just drive to, there are of course other shopping centres with similar stores that are already more accessible by bus.

If 96 was take of, 11 would be a good replacement.
It would probably gain some passengers from the local area possibly - Stechford, Ward End, Erdington, Yardley Stockland Green etc, as last time I used it last week there  were a few people with shopping bags waiting at the A4040 island. And 11 would be high frequency and also have good connections to the wider region as well as it connects with  lots of frequent routes X3/X4/X5, 55/94, 97, 65, 14 etc (so you'd be able to travel from say Washwood Heath/Glebe Farm/Alum Rock etc to the fort a lot easier than now). So probably would vastly improve links to the Fort to be honest.

Would be nice to see AG Gemini back at the Fort as well, as its been a few years since they last operated there on the 966.

If the 38 and 96 were to be taken from the Fort would Holly Lane still have a bus? Other than the tendered 25?

If the 96 wasn't to serve the Fort I think the other ways you can send it is to Tyburn House and either along the Kingsbury Road as the 966/966A used to or the Tyburn Road like X14 and then rejoin the current route on Holly Lane.
I don't think you could take it off Holly Lane without replacing it with something.

[Jack D]

28 would be a good shout to the fort though frequent, and serves erdington

[Tony]

28 would be a good shout to the fort though frequent, and serves erdington

28 would be an awful idea as it would then have to miss all the popular stops around the Yenton to serve stops Yardley any one uses.

The 11 served the fort when it opened and was more popular then, yet still wasn't worth doing

[Sh4318]

The 73 is still every 20 minutes on Saturdays

Yes, I'm aware of this. Hence why I said the 73 was every 30 minutes on a Saturday, when it interworked with the 58

[2206]

28 would be an awful idea as it would then have to miss all the popular stops around the Yenton to serve stops Yardley any one uses.

Or for the 28 the other way you could have it serve the fort is miss out the stops by the Hunters Moon send it down Bromford Lane, Fort Parkway. Still a bad idea to miss out the Hunters Moon stops as well as it would lose the link to Erdington.
11 would be alright, if it can be done without adding on much journey time.

[Tony]

Or for the 28 you could have it miss out the stops by the Hunters Moon send it down Bromford Lane, Fort Parkway. Still a bad idea to miss out those stops I think.
11 would be alright, if it can be done without adding on much journey time.

On a frequent route like the 11 even just adding 6 or 7 minutes onto the journey time will cost 2 buses, one each way, or 1/4 million pounds a year to pick up "one man and his dog"

[BBS]

I don't exactly think Erdington be left without a bus to the Fort... the 96 is staying so I don't understand why people are thinking its going from the Fort, if it did and had no replacement how are the workers going to get there as well as the as the Fort Parkway...
If the 38 and 96 were to be taken from the Fort would Holly Lane still have a bus? Other than the tendered 25?

Personally, I think the 11 would be a good contender to serve the Fort...

Most people do take 11 to go for but have to walk quite a long distance