Hydrogen vehicles

[BK63 YWP]

Don't speak too soon - I can think of one garage that runs services into Birmingham and has tons of open space - and no residential near it!!

Pensnett? 

[Celestial Toymaker]

I would be interested to see if Electrics or Hydrogens can cope with 11a / 11c especially with a 3 bell load - i suppose if they can manage X1 / 900 mileage wouldnt be a big issue, in times past (70's / 80's)  they used nickname the 11a/11c "The Bus Breaker"

[Tony]

I would be interested to see if Electrics or Hydrogens can cope with 11a / 11c especially with a 3 bell load - i suppose if they can manage X1 / 900 mileage wouldnt be a big issue, in times past (70's / 80's)  they used nickname the 11a/11c "The Bus Breaker"

I have no idea why you would think they couldn't. Bus Breaker? Some of the Geminis have been on there almost solid for almost 20 years, and some of the Birmingham Standards 25 years, I don't know of any vehicle type that has ever had to be removed from there.

[j789]

I would be interested to see if Electrics or Hydrogens can cope with 11a / 11c especially with a 3 bell load - i suppose if they can manage X1 / 900 mileage wouldnt be a big issue, in times past (70's / 80's)  they used nickname the 11a/11c "The Bus Breaker"

While obviously the route is high milage so puts pressure on vehicles in that respect, I would not say the 11a/c is particularly harsh on vehicles. 20 year old Metrobuses coped fine on it for many years, so did older Volvo Plaxton deckers and Geminis.

This route is very stop-start which actually suits these sort of vehicles better, whereas it is longer, faster routes with less stopping (express type routes) that wear out buses far more than the 11 route, or similar routes, do.

Edit: just seen Tony commented something similar a minute before so apologies for the duplicate post!

[Tony]

While obviously the route is high milage so puts pressure on vehicles in that respect, I would not say the 11a/c is particularly harsh on vehicles. 20 year old Metrobuses coped fine on it for many years, so did older Volvo Plaxton deckers and Geminis.

This route is very stop-start which actually suits these sort of vehicles better, whereas it is longer, faster routes with less stopping (express type routes) that wear out buses far more than the 11 route, or similar routes, do.

Edit: just seen Tony commented something similar a minute before so apologies for the duplicate post!

The 11 is actually quite low mileage for vehicles, 2h30min for a full lap (when they did a full lap) of 26 miles so buses are only doing an average of 10 mph.

To show the difference between mileages on different routes I was entering details of vehicles having exhaust filters changed earlier this week. 6118 was on just over 400,000 miles, but newer 6828 which had spent most of its life on the X1 is already over 700,000 miles

[mesub]

I would be interested to see if Electrics or Hydrogens can cope with 11a / 11c especially with a 3 bell load - i suppose if they can manage X1 / 900 mileage wouldnt be a big issue, in times past (70's / 80's)  they used nickname the 11a/11c "The Bus Breaker"

I mean an electric bus has been on the 11 before, so it's definitely a possibility.

[2900]

The 11 is actually quite low mileage for vehicles, 2h30min for a full lap (when they did a full lap) of 26 miles so buses are only doing an average of 10 mph.

To show the difference between mileages on different routes I was entering details of vehicles having exhaust filters changed earlier this week. 6118 was on just over 400,000 miles, but newer 6828 which had spent most of its life on the X1 is already over 700,000 miles

That's quite a difference its vast and would explain a great deal why some buses of the same age or similar vary in the way they drive 

[Jack]

H1006 is on the 51 currently, first time I've seen one on a late night.

[Gareth]

H1006 is on the 51 currently, first time I've seen one on a late night.

Surprised there's one out at all.

[Jack]

Surprised there's one out at all.

Tends to be at least a few out lately. 

[Tony]

There's been 5 out every day this week which is the most that can be fueled on the car pump at Tyseley 

[Solo1]

How long before they fix the pumps at tyseley so all the hydrogen buses can be back out in use

[PB50]

How long before they fix the pumps at tyseley so all the hydrogen buses can be back out in use

Maybe that's why they are currently not out at present so they can get it fixed. Let's hope this is the case.

[Gareth]

How long before they fix the pumps at tyseley so all the hydrogen buses can be back out in use

I wouldn't worry about when they're next out in service, there'll be another problem to prevent them operating just around the corner. They just seem totally jinxed.

[Mayfield]

Needs adding to unusual sightings the same hydrogen operating for 5 consecutive days, or is that to much shall we say 2 days then.