Hydrogen vehicles

[GoldenSquid]

Others have mentioned it-possibly Tony at least-that they need to be refueled during the day.

Yeah, I noticed them going to Tysley in the middle of there run. But a week or 2 ago there was 10-15 out each day and now it's back down to 4-6

[Tony]

Yeah, I noticed them going to Tysley in the middle of there run. But a week or 2 ago there was 10-15 out each day and now it's back down to 4-6

There's 9 out!
It was just one of those days when over the weekend a couple of defects showed up and the Wrights engineer based at Walsall doesn't do weekends so they weren't available this morning

[PB50]

There's 9 out!
It was just one of those days when over the weekend a couple of defects showed up and the Wrights engineer based at Walsall doesn't do weekends so they weren't available this morning

Oh that's why there was none out yesterday then.

[GoldenSquid]

There's 9 out!
It was just one of those days when over the weekend a couple of defects showed up and the Wrights engineer based at Walsall doesn't do weekends so they weren't available this morning

Oh okay, that's good. I thought there was an issue with the hydrogen refuelling.

[PB50]

I take it there's been problems on the 51 route today as majority of hydrogen buses haven't tracked since early morning and this afternoon around 2.30 there was 5 sitting in town.

[markcf83]

I take it there's been problems on the 51 route today as majority of hydrogen buses haven't tracked since early morning and this afternoon around 2.30 there was 5 sitting in town.

Slightly related but otherwise not so,most of the Hydrogen buses in London used by Metroline weren't out yesterday. I haven't looked today as yet but would imagine it's still the case. 

[Coventrybususer95]

Slightly related but otherwise not so,most of the Hydrogen buses in London used by Metroline weren't out yesterday. I haven't looked today as yet but would imagine it's still the case.

Could the heat be playing havoc with them 

[Tony]

Could the heat be playing havoc with them

No, It was a problem at the fuelling station

[PB50]

No, It was a problem at the fuelling station

Yes thought that might be the reason. Not good for passengers though when this happens.

[Mayfield]

The hydrogen experiment would be better if it curtailed now, it been an absolute joke, can't all be available all at once, who in the right mind would have all these assets and be able to only use half of them, fuelling is a also a joke, they are fast approaching 3 years old and I would love to see an availability for service/not available analysis 

[Gareth]

It seems to be one after another with these.
Not enough drivers type trained
fuelling station not ready
Sent back to manufacturer for fault to be corrected
Not enough staff to refuel at Walsall 
Fuel too expensive
Overhanging trees
Problems at the fuelling station.

What will the next excuse be?

NX and the other partners involved must be really frustrated at what a lemon of a 'product' they've tried to introduce. A shame as they do seem like nice vehicles. When they run.

[Mayfield]

The PVR could also be reduced if these were disposed of, but I guess nobody would want them anyway.

[Stevo]

I wonder if they said the same about petrol buses when they first appeared in the 1900s. 'Nothing but problems - they should bring back the horses!' But the hydrogen fuel cell vehices are insanely expensive, though owned by Birmingham City Council. I hope the problems are worked through.

[Westy]

I wonder if they said the same about petrol buses when they first appeared in the 1900s. 'Nothing but problems - they should bring back the horses!' But the hydrogen fuel cell vehices are insanely expensive, though owned by Birmingham City Council. I hope the problems are worked through.

Hmmm.

'Owned by Birmingham City Council'

Considering this week's events, I wonder?

[Jack]

The hydrogens are lovely to ride, like the Electrics they are the smoothest ride as a passenger.

Only downfall if the crap seating downstairs, the 51 passengers are used to them, but whenever I've caught them on the 997 passengers moan about them...