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Vehicles away from home garage 2021

Started by Tony, January 05, 2021, 10:28:20 AM

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Tony

Quote from: mranon on August 25, 2021, 08:17:57 AM
will 5403/5 be converted with their existing engines like 5402/12 or will it receive the bigger lump that 5409 had.

keeping the same engines

Tony


Graysons - 1857, 1865, 2007, 2111, 2148, 4743, 4907, 7028
Hartshornes - 4502, 4670, 4695, 5511, 5516
Keltruck - 1928, 7030
EYMS - 5403, 5405
Plaxtons - E013

Paint - 761, 861, 865, 867, 1833, 119L, 3035, 3997
PB - 2146, 4500, 6707
WA - 6927
AG - loan for service - 4484

CL

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Tony

#63
Graysons - 733, 806, 850, 1913, 4722, 4743, 4884
Hartshornes - 2066, 2073, 4274, 4502, 4670, 4695, 5516
Keltruck - 1928, 7030
EYMS - 5403, 5405
Powertrain - 4879

Paint - 759, 861, 869, 870, 1795, 1833, 119L, 3035, 3997
PB - 2121, 2146, 6707, 6944
WA - 1920, 6927

BBS

Quote from: Tony on September 29, 2021, 12:19:12 PM
Graysons - 733, 806, 850, 1913, 4722, 4743, 4884
Hartshornes - 2066, 2073, 4274, 4502, 4670, 4695, 5516
Keltruck - 1928, 7030
EYMS - 5403, 5405
Powertrain - 4879

Paint - 759, 861, 869, 870, 1796, 1833, 119L, 3035, 3997
PB - 2121, 2146, 6707, 6944
WA - 1920, 6927
i just saw 1796 on 1
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

BNH2004

Quote from: Tony on September 29, 2021, 12:19:12 PM
Graysons - 733, 806, 850, 1913, 4722, 4743, 4884
Hartshornes - 2066, 2073, 4274, 4502, 4670, 4695, 5516
Keltruck - 1928, 7030
EYMS - 5403, 5405
Powertrain - 4879

Paint - 759, 861, 869, 870, 1796, 1833, 119L, 3035, 3997
PB - 2121, 2146, 6707, 6944
WA - 1920, 6927

Saw 850 on the 2 this afternoon

Tony

Quote from: BNH2004 on September 29, 2021, 03:54:34 PM
Saw 850 on the 2 this afternoon

Yes, returned from Graysons and swapped for 5421 to have its exhaust service

don

Quote from: bbs on September 29, 2021, 03:32:52 PM
i just saw 1796 on 1

It still seems to be tracking on the 1 - could the bus in paint possibly be 1795?
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Tony

Quote from: don on September 29, 2021, 05:51:18 PM
It still seems to be tracking on the 1 - could the bus in paint possibly be 1795?

Yes, that one was a typo

don

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wulfrun

Quote from: Tony on September 29, 2021, 04:03:59 PM
Yes, returned from Graysons and swapped for 5421 to have its exhaust service

Tony, on 9th Sep you said
Quote from: Tony on September 09, 2021, 02:48:05 PMThe last Hybrid, 5421, returned from Euro 6 conversion today.

20 days have now passed, 5421 has been in service, now you mention the bus has gone to Grayson for exhaust service.

The UK Gov Clean Air Zone Vehicle Checker, states this bus is not registered as Euro 6 compliant.

Was 5421 Euro 6 compliant on 9th Sept, when returned back to PL?
Is the UK Gov CAZ Vehicle Checker incorrect?

In the WA Garage board you listed the NX Buses that have been upgraded to Euro 6 emission standards, which included the following Enviro 400 Hybrid:
Quote from: Tony on August 25, 2021, 05:52:20 PM
...
5401/3-8/13/14/16/18 all others in this range are in process
...

UK Gov CAZ Vehicle Checker states all Enviro 400 Hybrids are Euro 6 compliant - with exception of the following:
5402 BX 61 LHD (@ Hartshornes)
5409 BX 61 LHL
5412 BX 13 JOJ
5415 BX 13 JPF
5417 BX 13 JPO
5418 BX 13 JPU
5421 BX 13 JRO

Is this correct?
If not, which of these buses is Euro 6 Compliant, and from what date?

5403, 5405 are listed as CAZ Euro 6 compliant, but are with EYMS. There for a scheduled Exhaust Service?


"Forward in Unity"

Tony

Quote from: wulfrun on September 30, 2021, 12:17:05 AM
Tony, on 9th Sep you said 

20 days have now passed, 5421 has been in service, now you mention the bus has gone to Grayson for exhaust service.

The UK Gov Clean Air Zone Vehicle Checker, states this bus is not registered as Euro 6 compliant.

Was 5421 Euro 6 compliant on 9th Sept, when returned back to PL?
Is the UK Gov CAZ Vehicle Checker incorrect?

In the WA Garage board you listed the NX Buses that have been upgraded to Euro 6 emission standards, which included the following Enviro 400 Hybrid:
UK Gov CAZ Vehicle Checker states all Enviro 400 Hybrids are Euro 6 compliant - with exception of the following:
5402 BX 61 LHD (@ Hartshornes)
5409 BX 61 LHL
5412 BX 13 JOJ
5415 BX 13 JPF
5417 BX 13 JPO
5418 BX 13 JPU
5421 BX 13 JRO

Is this correct?
If not, which of these buses is Euro 6 Compliant, and from what date?

5403, 5405 are listed as CAZ Euro 6 compliant, but are with EYMS. There for a scheduled Exhaust Service?

All apart from 5402, 5409 and 5412 are done, but CAZ checker hasn't caught up yet

wulfrun

Quote from: Tony on September 30, 2021, 06:35:59 AM
All apart from 5402, 5409 and 5412 are done, but CAZ checker hasn't caught up yet

Thanks Tony.

In regards to allocating buses to Garages, in order to meet AQPS emission compliance targets, where operators must ensure a percentage of their journeys are operated using vehicles with Euro 6 compliant (or better) exhaust systems.

Given...
Solihull AQPS = 100% journeys to be Euro 6 compliant.
Wolverhampton AQPS = 75% Journeys to be Euro 6 compliant.

What is the definition of "an AQPS journey"?

Is it...

(A) Each scheduled Trip working IN/OUT/VIA the AQPS Zone?

Or

(B) Each scheduled journey IN/OUT/VIA the AQPS zone, where a journey is the furthest possible paying a single fare?

Most services operate as single Trip workings in one direction - outbound / inbound - so there is no difference between (A) and (B). But there is, when considering out-and-back-loops like N32,N33,N59, which while operated as single Trip Working, are TWO passenger journeys, given the Trip can not be completed paying a single fare. N59 requires a single fare from w-ton to Ashmore Park, and another single fare from Ashmore Park to w-ton.

With Wolverhampton Bus Station located within the AQPS Zone...

What is the N59 "AQPS Journey" contribution per day (mon-fri)?
(A) = 145 Trip workings ?
OR
(B) = 280 Single Fare Journeys INTO/OUT-OF the AQPS Zone?
"Forward in Unity"

don

Quote from: Tony on September 30, 2021, 06:35:59 AM
All apart from 5402, 5409 and 5412 are done, but CAZ checker hasn't caught up yet

I seem to recall, at the end of its very extended transplant process, it had gone to Grayson for exhaust treatment also?
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Tony

Quote from: don on September 30, 2021, 07:51:39 PM
I seem to recall, at the end of its very extended transplant process, it had gone to Grayson for exhaust treatment also?

5409 went to Graysons for them to measure up the fitting of the new exhaust being a unique vehicle, but the specially designed kit hasn't arrived for fitting yet

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