Old Bus Routes

[Ginger66]

I remember back in the 80's the old 411 from Wednesbury to West Bromwich via  Friar Park and Black Lake and the best part of the journey as TDFR on a clear day when the bus got to black lake you could see Dudley castle in the distance 

[Rachvince53]

The 123 was one of the routes operated by Midland Red West from October 86. If I recall it interworked with the 124. 

[sonic84]

The 123 was one of the routes operated by Midland Red West from October 86. If I recall it interworked with the 124.

Yes Midland Red ran the 123 from Birmingham to Brierley Hill and the 124 from Birmingham to Dudley.

When these were withdrawn they swapped between various operators but 124 was eventually cut to Cradley Heath to Dudley, and the 123 Merry Hill to Bearwood.

Petes Travel amalgamated the 123 and 440 when it became Merry Hill to Perry Barr which is how it stayed for many years

[Rachvince53]

Does anyone remember the old Midland Red express services. I think the only one left is the X50/X20 operated by Stagecoach.  

[ellspurs]

Does anyone remember the old Midland Red express services. I think the only one left is the X50/X20 operated by Stagecoach. 

I rode the 192 from Hereford to Birmingham (Non-express version) in the mid-90s (actually got into trouble for breaking my curfew as the journey was 3 hours).

I do remember an X65 or X66 going across Bedworth/Nuneaton way, but my time frames are probably well past the times where these buses were prevalent. 

[sonic84]

I rode the 192 from Hereford to Birmingham (Non-express version) in the mid-90s (actually got into trouble for breaking my curfew as the journey was 3 hours).

I do remember an X65 or X66 going across Bedworth/Nuneaton way, but my time frames are probably well past the times where these buses were prevalent.

I remember the X92 and the X93 which ran from Birmingham to Hereford and Birmingham to Worcester.

The X92 was replaced with the 192 and X93 reduced to odd journeys between Birmingham and Kidderminster.

[Bus_user_jay]

I remember the X92 and the X93 which ran from Birmingham to Hereford and Birmingham to Worcester.

The X92 was replaced with the 192 and X93 reduced to odd journeys between Birmingham and Kidderminster.

Any pictures of these in service anywhere?

[busfan2847]

Going back even further I remember the

X12 Birmingham to Burton
X25 Stafford to Tamworth
X43 & X44 Birmingham to Worcester Motorway expresses (X43 via Quinton and X44 via Northfield)
X66 Birmingham to Leicester
X73 Worcester to Bristol (short lived service in the early 1980s)
X86 Birmingham to Stafford (short lived service in early 1980s)
X93 Birmingham to Worcester via Kidderminster (home of the MRW dual purpose Leyland National 2 1201-1206)
X96 Shrewsbury to Northampton via Birmingham
X99 Birmingham to Nottingham

[Rachvince53]

The X12 became the 112 I think. The remaining section of the X12 (Lichfield to Burton) is now operated by Diamond East Midlands following takeover of Midland Classic.  
Wasn't there a limited stop service which ran between Birmingham and Gloucester via Worcester numbered X72?

[busfan2847]

The X12 became the 112 I think. The remaining section of the X12 (Lichfield to Burton) is now operated by Diamond East Midlands following takeover of Midland Classic. 
Wasn't there a limited stop service which ran between Birmingham and Gloucester via Worcester numbered X72?

Yes the X12 became the 112. Midland Red did have an X72 and X73 between Birmingham and Gloucester and an X74 Birmingham to Cheltenham. It was MRW that introduced the Worcester-Bristol X73 service - it did not last long!

[don]

Yes the X12 became the 112. Midland Red did have an X72 and X73 between Birmingham and Gloucester and an X74 Birmingham to Cheltenham. It was MRW that introduced the Worcester-Bristol X73 service - it did not last long!

Originally (pre NBC) the X72 was Birmingham to Gloucester and X73 Birmingham to Cheltenham. There was also X99 Birmingham to Nottingham and X97 Leicester to Shrewsbury, along with X12 Birmingham to Derby. However some of the X series route numbers in those days were actually works and other services such as to outlying hospitals in the early 1960s.

Midland Red (pre NBC) introduced a number of new limited stop services in the mid 60s - two I recall were X8 Birmingham to Walsall and IIRC, X10 Birmingham to Hasbury Circle. I think there were others but they didn't last long. 

[Crosville]

Found some info on the MidlandRed.net site, & it shows Midland Red West ran an X73 Wolverhampton-Bristol in 1985 which then became Birmingham-Gloucester after d-reg, the service was withdrawn 1988

http://midlandred.net/service/timetable/display.php?routeID=1400

http://midlandred.net/service/timetable/display.php?routeID=3427

http://midlandred.net/service/timetable/search.php?service=all&operator=mrw&sortby=service&area=all

[fleetline6477]

The 123 was one of the routes operated by Midland Red West from October 86. If I recall it interworked with the 124.

The 123 / 124 didn't begin until later - 1990 maybe. 

The diagram was either
123 Birmingham -  Merry Hill, 209 Merry Hill - Dudley, 270 Dudley - Bilston, 270 Bilston - Dudley, 124 Dudley - Birmingham
or
124 Birmingham - Dudley, 209 Dudley - Merry Hill, 123 Merry Hill - Birmingham

Most 123s / 124s didn't interwork in Birmingham, they in effect switched diagrams.

[busfan2847]

The 123 / 124 didn't begin until later - 1990 maybe.

The diagram was either
123 Birmingham -  Merry Hill, 209 Merry Hill - Dudley, 270 Dudley - Bilston, 270 Bilston - Dudley, 124 Dudley - Birmingham
or
124 Birmingham - Dudley, 209 Dudley - Merry Hill, 123 Merry Hill - Birmingham

Most 123s / 124s didn't interwork in Birmingham, they in effect switched diagrams.

There were earlier Midland Red versions of the 123 and 124. In 1965 they were:
123 Birmingham - Langley - Blackheath - Brickhouse Farm
124 Birmingham - Warley - Langley - Oldbury

[the trainbasher]

Does anyone have a copy of the Dudley and Sandwell Centro map circa 1999 that they could scan please? Mainly looking for routings of the MH83, MH368, MH412 and WN545.

Also does have a copy of the timetable for the MH trips on the 139 from that time