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Started by Tony, February 01, 2020, 02:10:54 PM

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Stu

Quote from: don on May 10, 2024, 06:44:31 PMI shall be very interested to see how you deal with AG's allocation of non Euro 6 Geminis in the short term - although they don't necessarily need to replaced based on non B'ham city centre routes, I guess, if really necessary, there are enough Euro 6 ones at WB to move across if they get some more E400s (noting the next fleet number, leap frogging the 5 Omnidekkas is 4799).....

Anyway, a very interesting period, fleet wise approaches!!
There aren't any Omnidekkas, you must mean the Omnicities.

As AG has never operated Enviro400s, I would hazard a guess that they will end up with some of the Platinum E400MMCs to replace their non-Euro6 Geminis.

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don

Quote from: Stu on May 11, 2024, 10:06:27 AMThere aren't any Omnidekkas, you must mean the Omnicities.

As AG has never operated Enviro400s, I would hazard a guess that they will end up with some of the Platinum E400MMCs to replace their non-Euro6 Geminis.


Yeah sorry, I meant the Omnicities. 

I agree re the Platinums. However I also wonder if they won't go straight to electrics in the next couple of years - just have to be patient and wait and see! 
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BK63 YWP

I wouldn't be surprised if AG gets some platinums to make the 4/A double decker moving some of the e200mmc to West Bromwich. But that's all speculation.
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Stu

Quote from: BK63 YWP on May 11, 2024, 04:58:49 PMI wouldn't be surprised if AG gets some platinums to make the 4/A double decker moving some of the e200mmc to West Bromwich. But that's all speculation.
The priority at AG is going to be getting rid of the older non-Euro6 Geminis, before they even think about moving out their E200s.
My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

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Stu

@Tony that article I posted on my Facebook page yesterday has definitely attracted a lot of negative/ignorant comments for some reason!

My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

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Steve3229vp

Quote from: Stu on May 12, 2024, 09:53:16 AM@Tony that article I posted on my Facebook page yesterday has definitely attracted a lot of negative/ignorant comments for some reason!


Some (actually a lot) of the comments were unsubstantiated rubbish, these new Electric buses are the future, they are comfortable, quite and fairly quick. When the Platinums arrived they were the most impressive buses since the Timesaver metrobuses from 1986. For me the new Electrics are even better. The only problem with them is their seating capacity is a bit low at 65 which is 8 less than a Platinum and 12 less than an Enviro, the main daytime will be fine, but peaks may struggle, buses going towards Perry Barr are carrying more than a year ago. I hoping than come September there will be peak frequency increases on the 33 and 907. If passenger numbers are increasing the last thing we need is them been put off by packed buses especially with Parker on the prowl.

Ronnoc

Quote from: Stu on May 12, 2024, 09:53:16 AM@Tony that article I posted on my Facebook page yesterday has definitely attracted a lot of negative/ignorant comments for some reason!



It's so common on Facebook to see all of these low functioning doom and gloom people commenting nonsense about electric buses blowing up. They are everywhere and have nothing better to do. Your article was amazing, don't let them hinder your work.

Straightlines

Quote from: Steve3229vp on May 12, 2024, 10:12:07 AMSome (actually a lot) of the comments were unsubstantiated rubbish, these new Electric buses are the future, they are comfortable, quite and fairly quick. When the Platinums arrived they were the most impressive buses since the Timesaver metrobuses from 1986. For me the new Electrics are even better. The only problem with them is their seating capacity is a bit low at 65 which is 8 less than a Platinum and 12 less than an Enviro, the main daytime will be fine, but peaks may struggle, buses going towards Perry Barr are carrying more than a year ago. I hoping than come September there will be peak frequency increases on the 33 and 907. If passenger numbers are increasing the last thing we need is them been put off by packed buses especially with Parker on the prowl.
The Platinums are probably some of the most uninspiring buses ever conceived. 

Tony

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Ronnoc

Quote from: Straightlines on May 12, 2024, 05:21:41 PMThe Platinums are probably some of the most uninspiring buses ever conceived.
Platinums were an upgrade over existing vehicles, boasting many new comfort features to attract new passengers. This has allowed the platinum spec to become standard for National Express fleet. What makes you think they are uninsipring?

Stu

Quote from: Ronnoc on May 12, 2024, 05:02:52 PMIt's so common on Facebook to see all of these low functioning doom and gloom people commenting nonsense about electric buses blowing up. They are everywhere and have nothing better to do. Your article was amazing, don't let them hinder your work.
Thanks, I don't do this for kudos or recognition, just to try and inform bus users about what is going on. I wouldn't say that article was 'amazing' though, just concise and to the point.

The Facebook post has definitely attracted the Daily Mail-reading anti-electric bus mob now though. What also disappoints me is how many people are commenting who clearly haven't read the article I wrote.

Here's some stats which are correct at the time of posting this.
The website article currently shows 491 views.

According to Facebook, that particular post has 22k impressions/reach, and 1.6k 'engagement'. While the link to the article only has 378 clicks.

So far only one person has actually commented on the website.
My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

West Midlands Bus Users: Website | Facebook | X/Twitter | Bluesky

Ingleboro261F

Quote from: Stu on May 11, 2024, 10:06:27 AMThere aren't any Omnidekkas, you must mean the Omnicities.

As AG has never operated Enviro400s, I would hazard a guess that they will end up with some of the Platinum E400MMCs to replace their non-Euro6 Geminis.


Maybe the drivers could adapt to using older e400s? They're kinda similar to e400mmcs

winston

Quote from: Ronnoc on May 12, 2024, 05:38:26 PMPlatinums were an upgrade over existing vehicles, boasting many new comfort features to attract new passengers. This has allowed the platinum spec to become standard for National Express fleet. What makes you think they are uninsipring?
Because Straightlines has never has anything positive to say towards NX, constantly negative no matter what they do / don't do.
The Platinum's were high spec when first introduced back in 2015, and offered something different, the Platinum spec has since become standard. 
I'm not keen on the latest standard livery I.e single grey, but that's been done to death.....

Jack

Quote from: Ingleboro261F on May 13, 2024, 11:42:21 AMMaybe the drivers could adapt to using older e400s? They're kinda similar to e400mmcs
They aren't, the three types NX use are all different cabs to each other. So would require more type training. 

Ingleboro261F

I've just seen an abellio London single dicker bus looks like a wrightbus vehicle (maybe a GB kite??) around AG, What's it doing around there nearly 100 miles away?

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