Electric Buses

[2206]

Has it been confirmed they will be used on the 8? The 52 is mix of nearly anything like most other PB's routes.

No.
But guess some of the Omnilinks could be on borrowed time now. Think someone said the next batch of new buses will replace non euro 6 deckers and omnilinks as well.

[Liam Pettit]

We don't have a crystal ball. We can only use our own assumptions and hopes collectively, till we see the ball rolling.

What we know is euro6 vehicles will all be withdrawn by 2030 (according to nxwm). So every route will have their EV upgrades while being of similar age. So could that mean these vehicles would be garage upgrades rather than route upgrades?

Other than 2-3 years difference, the dd tridents and sd scanias are the same, euro 6 retro fitted. So the the later tridents could be eligible to continue while the scania fleet are reduced to a reasonable amount.

I'm sure the priority is now non-euro 6, then to reduce quantity of single deckers... All will probably be done seamlessly when we start to see big batches delivered at a time.

[BBS]

If the current charging infrastructure at YW is capable of handling a lot more buses, I suspect some may go to YW for the 50 potentially (?).

Does the 50 really need to be upgraded again?

[Ronnoc]

Does the 50 really need to be upgraded again?

Its upgrade cycle is pretty frequent. 1998 with spectras, 2001 with B7TL ALX400s, then slightly newer trident ALX400s shortly after, 2008 with E400s, 2015 with crimson E400 MMCs, 2018 with platinum E400 MMCs.

Its one of the most frequently upgraded NX routes, indicating that it's probably one of the most profitable. I'd say it doesn't "need" upgrading, but it's not a bad shout either. Releasing 68 plate platinum buses to upgrade other bus routes seems good to me too.

[RW]

Apparently the 'new' ADL electrics have a revised front geometry to protect vulnerable road users. The new spec vehicle begs the question how long will ADL continue with the BYD model?

[Gareth]

Apparently the 'new' ADL electrics have a revised front geometry to protect vulnerable road users. The new spec vehicle begs the question how long will ADL continue with the BYD model?

For as long as customers want to order them. There could be many reasons why a BYD chassis would be more beneficial over an ADL for an operator.

[Celestial Toymaker]

Why won't it be AG?

AG rarely gets NEW vehicles, and quite often if they do, they whisked away to BC, PB or YW in exchange for rubbish, these days tho i rather see new vehicles move to WB as most services i use are WB

[Steve3229vp]

AG rarely gets NEW vehicles, and quite often if they do, they whisked away to BC, PB or YW in exchange for rubbish, these days tho i rather see new vehicles move to WB as most services i use are WB

Really, so the 2201-2250 for the 37, 71 and 72 weren't new then ?
What about the 46xx Geminis for the Outer Circle, weren't they new ?

[spacecowboy150]

Really, so the 2201-2250 for the 37, 71 and 72 weren't new then ?
What about the 46xx Geminis for the Outer Circle, weren't they new ?

Thats a pretty big time gap

[Tony]

Really, so the 2201-2250 for the 37, 71 and 72 weren't new then ?
What about the 46xx Geminis for the Outer Circle, weren't they new ?

And the large batch of Scanias for the 37
And the large batch of B7RLEs for the 71/71
Both of which were replaced after a couple of years by more new buses (2201-50)

( so not a big gap between the Geminis & E200MMCs)

[spacecowboy150]

i stand corrected

[Jack]

Thats a pretty big time gap

It's not really, AG had new B7's in 2007, new Omnilinks in 2010, B7's in 2012, MMC's in 2015 and also a year old lot in 2016.

A few of PB's services haven't had new vehicles since the early 2000's, AG was also given 3 year old MMC's in 2018, and they've just had more MMC's of near enough same age given to them, so yes AG have had a lot more new buses than some other depots.

[Tony]

It's not really, AG had new B7's in 2007, new Omnilinks in 2010, B7's in 2012, MMC's in 2015 and also a year old lot in 2016.

A few of PB's services haven't had new vehicles since the early 2000's, AG was also given 3 year old MMC's in 2018, and they've just had more MMC's of near enough same age given to them, so yes AG have had a lot more new buses than some other depots.

You've forgotten 2099-2121 were new to AG as well!

[Jack]

You've forgotten 2099-2121 were new to AG as well!

Edited it, went out my head completely!

[Tony]

In Summary in the last 27 years Acocks Green has had:-

B10Bs new in 1996
Solos in 1999
Presidents in 2000
Geminis in 2003 (45xx)
Geminis in 2004 (46xx)
B7RLEs in 2007
Scanias in 2010
B7RLEs in 2012
E200MMCs in 2015

Not bad for a garage that very rarely gets new buses.