Busiest/Most Profitable Routes

[Sayeed]

I only ask I'm surprised that the QE to City section of the route is the bit which remains considering this section is relatively new, and the city to QE is served by much more regularly direct routes.

By looking at the former 8A/C section there is still demand and carries fair amount of passengers.

[2206]

By looking at the former 8A/C section there is still demand and carries fair amount of passengers.

Could that stop on Momentum Road be covered by an existing service perhaps.
Maybe having 1 80 per hour divert along Momentum Road and Hagley Road an hour to serve those passengers.

[Justin Tyme]

Could that stop on Monument Road be covered by an existing service perhaps.
Maybe having 1 80 per hour divert along Monument Road and Hagley Road an hour to serve those passengers.

I would think that's unlikely because simple frequent bus routes, without occasional variations, tend to attract more passengers.  An example is Birmingham 6, which has recently gone double deck.

[Sh4318]

Don't think NX would want to keep it for much longer. They'll probably be happy to just bin it off. Major changes are needed for the number 10 routes as they're dying a slow and kinda painful death.

If you told me 20 years ago, that in 2019, the 10 would still be running, I wouldn't have believed you

[j789]

If you told me 20 years ago, that in 2019, the 10 would still be running, I wouldn't have believed you

The 10 was always decently used in the peak periods when I used to catch it a lot in the 1990s and early 2000s. I always thought it should have extended down west Boulevard and Barnes Hill to terminate at Northfield as would have given a direct link to Quinton there. Even today I would run the route as a loop serving Quinton, Harborne, the QE, Selly Oak, Northfield then back to Quinton again.

[MasterPlan]

The 10 was always decently used in the peak periods when I used to catch it a lot in the 1990s and early 2000s. I always thought it should have extended down west Boulevard and Barnes Hill to terminate at Northfield as would have given a direct link to Quinton there. Even today I would run the route as a loop serving Quinton, Harborne, the QE, Selly Oak, Northfield then back to Quinton again.

Sounds like a decent idea actually, renumber it the 26 and go straight up Barnes Hill and  Shenley Lane to Northfield from West Boulevard.
Would have to run more than the 10 does though.

[j789]

Sounds like a decent idea actually, renumber it the 26 and go straight up Barnes Hill and  Shenley Lane to Northfield from West Boulevard.
Would have to run more than the 10 does though.

At least every 30 minutes to have a chance. It'd be a risk no doubt but worth a try particularly as a circular service as suggested

[MasterPlan]

At least every 30 minutes to have a chance. It'd be a risk no doubt but worth a try particularly as a circular service as suggested

No I was referring to the extension of the 10 idea, not the circular one. I think it'd have to go to the City Centre to be viable. Perhaps using the Augustus Road may be quicker too.

[mesub]

The 10s was quite useful when it ran up to Northfield, made a quicker journey than the 27.

[Sh4318]

The 10 was always decently used in the peak periods when I used to catch it a lot in the 1990s and early 2000s. I always thought it should have extended down west Boulevard and Barnes Hill to terminate at Northfield as would have given a direct link to Quinton there. Even today I would run the route as a loop serving Quinton, Harborne, the QE, Selly Oak, Northfield then back to Quinton again.

The early 2000s it got tinkered with, a lot. That was the beginning of the end for me

[Metrorider]

For Diamond, it's pretty simple. The 4,4H,16/W,40,42,43, 50,226. (Again based on their high frequency.)

Not always the case, high frequency don't always mean top paying. Whilst all those routes support themselves commercially (some better than others) they are not the top payers. For years the 226 was only just about viable with 2 operators on it (Hansons and Diamond) and Saturdays on that route are awful for cash fares.

[richardjones210368]

Not always the case, high frequency don't always mean top paying. Whilst all those routes support themselves commercially (some better than others) they are not the top payers. For years the 226 was only just about viable with 2 operators on it (Hansons and Diamond) and Saturdays on that route are awful for cash fares.

The now 20min frequency and normal Diamond fares have helped the margins on the 226 hence the new Streetlites. HANSONS notices always made me smile on the 226 they went along the lines of dont even dare to show a WMT Travelcard or Diamond Ticket on.OUR buses they brilliant.

[winston]

The now 20min frequency and normal Diamond fares have helped the margins on the 226 hence the new Streetlites. HANSONS notices always made me smile on the 226 they went along the lines of dont even dare to show a WMT Travelcard or Diamond Ticket on.OUR buses they brilliant.

The appearance of new Streetlites on the 226 has nothing to do with improved margins. It was agreed between TfWM & Diamond Bus to upgrade that route with new Euro 6 buses.

[richardjones210368]

The appearance of new Streetlites on the 226 has nothing to do with improved margins. It was agreed between TfWM & Diamond Bus to upgrade that route with new Euro 6 buses.

Oh yes I agree they came on service due to a TfWM Euro 6 Partnership what i meant was the overall running costs of the Streetlights and the image they portray should be leading to increased patronage and an overall reduction in route running costs which would lead to increased margins in the long run compared with the duopoly previously.

[winston]

Oh yes I agree they came on service due to a TfWM Euro 6 Partnership what i meant was the overall running costs of the Streetlights and the image they portray should be leading to increased patronage and an overall reduction in route running costs which would lead to increased margins in the long run compared with the duopoly previously.

Yes, I agree with those comments, but read your initial reply differently to what you meant.