Arriva's future?

[winston]

Another buyout firm bidding for Arriva:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/06/15/buyout-giants-jump-aboard-arriva-sale/

[winston]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/07/02/auditors-raise-rail-red-flag-fallout-arrivas-3bn-sale/

[winston]

First round bids kick off this week to buy Arriva Group, DB have also prepared an alternative option for floating on the Amsterdam Stock Exchange should bids not be high enough:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-05/germany-s-deutsche-bahn-is-said-to-eye-amsterdam-for-arriva-ipo

[winston]

A sale of Arriva getting closer:

** U.S. buyout groups Carlyle and Apollo are working on competing offers for Deutsche Bahn's Arriva unit as the auction enters its final stage, people close to the matter said.

[IMarkeh]

According to posts on other threads and forums, the current speculation is Macclesfield, Winsford and Cannock are up for sale to Julian Peddles companies in some way.

Macclesfield - High Peak
Winsford - D&G
Cannock (Services only) - Centrebus, Select or D&G

[winston]

According to posts on other threads and forums, the current speculation is Macclesfield, Winsford and Cannock are up for sale to Julian Peddles companies in some way.

Macclesfield - High Peak
Winsford - D&G
Cannock (Services only) - Centrebus, Select or D&G

Julain Peddle does seem to get first dibs on most ops Arriva UK sell.

I have heard suggestions that Arriva Bolton may as be up for sale?

Incidentally, looks like Carlyle are the exclusive bidder to buy Arriva Group

https://news.sky.com/story/carlyle-on-track-to-make-eur2-5bn-bid-for-northern-rail-owner-11851282

[IMarkeh]

Julain Peddle does seem to get first dibs on most ops Arriva UK sell.

I have heard suggestions that Arriva Bolton may as be up for sale?

Incidentally, looks like Carlyle are the exclusive bidder to buy Arriva Group

https://news.sky.com/story/carlyle-on-track-to-make-eur2-5bn-bid-for-northern-rail-owner-11851282

Bolton.... I suppose it could be up for sale on it's own. Not heard it myself.

Is Carlyle one of the firms which will basically just buy then split up Arriva for sale?

Julian Peddle I believe still owns shares in Arriva. I am a bit surprised he hasn't tried to get some areas/depots back which he used to own like Yorkshire Tiger, MK Metro and HinckleyBus.

[winston]

Bolton.... I suppose it could be up for sale on it's own. Not heard it myself.

Is Carlyle one of the firms which will basically just buy then split up Arriva for sale?

Julian Peddle I believe still owns shares in Arriva. I am a bit surprised he hasn't tried to get some areas/depots back which he used to own like Yorkshire Tiger, MK Metro and HinckleyBus.

Can't remember where I heard about Bolton, could have been crossed wires with the First Bolton sale I guess...

Not necessarily, they do own & retain various businesses including Addison Lee Group in UK that they have acquired, depends what they want Arriva Group for & whether they want all of it. They may opt to split the UK & European arms up & sell one of them off?

Carlyle Group Portfolio of Assets:
https://www.carlyle.com/our-business/portfolio-investments

I very much doubt Julian Peddle still owns any shares in Arriva, they were taken private ex London Stock Exchange listed and are wholly owned by Deutsche Bahn.

[IMarkeh]

Can't remember where I heard about Bolton, could have been crossed wires with the First Bolton sale I guess...

Not necessarily, they do own & retain various businesses including Addison Lee Group in UK that they have acquired, depends what they want Arriva Group for & whether they want all of it. They may opt to split the UK & European arms up & sell one of them off?

Carlyle Group Portfolio of Assets:
https://www.carlyle.com/our-business/portfolio-investments

I very much doubt Julian Peddle still owns any shares in Arriva, they were taken private ex London Stock Exchange listed and are wholly owned by Deutsche Bahn.

It appears I also got wires crossed. I could have sworn it was on a government official site that he was associated with Arriva Midlands somehow.

[winston]

It appears I also got wires crossed. I could have sworn it was on a government official site that he was associated with Arriva Midlands somehow.

These are all his investments:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/MqDG2PkRAjVzxYfVoIvneSLJOmM/appointments

[mikestone]

That is only the companies where he is or has been an officer.

[winston]

That is only the companies where he is or has been an officer.

I didn't say he owned them outright, but he's invested in most if not all of them.

[mikestone]

You stated that it listed all his investments, which isn't necessarily the case, and I never said anything about him owning them outright.

[winston]

You stated that it listed all his investments, which isn't necessarily the case, and I never said anything about him owning them outright.

I'm aware what I stated, I understand he provides financial backing as an investor for most / if not all of them, some with a minority shareholding, some such as D&G & Centrebus with a larger % shareholding. Hence why he's a director of the various entities.

[winston]

Looks like the sale of Arriva may not now go ahead:
https://www.railwaygazette.com/policy/doll-to-leave-db-as-arriva-sale-falters/55162.article