West Bromwich Garage

[winston]

Agreed re Quinton, I was really surprised at the time when that closed, without knowing the circumstances behind it. The solution of trying to shoehorn most services into BC, HY and YW at the time, and the 136/7/140 going to WB seemed a bit of a short term fix - most of the services that moved on QN's closure have moved garage again since - the 22 and 23 being the exceptions.

Services on the west side of the city must incur a fair bit of dead mileage these days.

I bet the residents around Quinton garage are really happy, they've got rid of the bus depot but gained a Tesco.... :-)

[2900]

Dudley garage was the same to noise levels, diesel smoke , now they have a bypass much better don't you think.

[markcf83]

Had Quinton stayed open up to now,what routes would it be running,just out of interest?

[2206]

Had Quinton stayed open up to now,what routes would it be running,just out of interest?

Bit of a silly question.
It's not open anymore. Nobody knows what would have happened years after it closed had it stayed open.
Perhaps had it remained open one of the other garages may have closed. Nobody knows.

[Mike K]

Had Quinton stayed open up to now,what routes would it be running,just out of interest?

At the time Quinton closed it was operating a number of local Stourbridge services following the closure of Stourbridge and Hartshill garages and Pensnett didn't exist in its current form. So the make up and capacity of other garages has changed since it closed. If my memory serves me (the Black Country routes here might not be 100% correct) upon closure it operated the 9, 10, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 (103), 29, 82, 136/7, 140, 241, 242, 247/8, 296, 297.

[fleetline6477]

At the time Quinton closed it was operating a number of local Stourbridge services following the closure of Stourbridge and Hartshill garages and Pensnett didn't exist in its current form. So the make up and capacity of other garages has changed since it closed. If my memory serves me (the Black Country routes here might not be 100% correct) upon closure it operated the 9, 10, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 (103), 29, 82, 136/7, 140, 241, 242, 247/8, 296, 297.

QN also operated Stourbridge Circulars 293/4/5 and peak 298/9. The 247A/248A operated hourly alongside the hourly 247/248.

[Kevin]

In reality if it were open today it'd have most routes in that corner of the city (22/3/4/9, potentially 61/3) and BC would have more of the East routes taking pressure off PB (94) and AG (72/966 now X12)

If this noise thing becomes an issue then let's face it only PN and BC are safe. In London at the weekend I passed Willesden garage and that's in a similarly residential area, would they face the same issue down there or are London garage's and transport network iconic enough to have immunity from noise complaints?

[4679]

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/sandwell/smethwick/2017/11/20/smethwick-high-street-blocked-after-van-and-bus-crash-leaves-three-injured/
If anyone wondered why Cape Hill was shut Yesterday
Bus involved was 4924

[Westy]

In reality if it were open today it'd have most routes in that corner of the city (22/3/4/9, potentially 61/3) and BC would have more of the East routes taking pressure off PB (94) and AG (72/966 now X12)

If this noise thing becomes an issue then let's face it only PN and BC are safe. In London at the weekend I passed Willesden garage and that's in a similarly residential area, would they face the same issue down there or are London garage's and transport network iconic enough to have immunity from noise complaints?

Suprised they never considered a super garage in South Staffs to replace Wolves & Walsall & possibly to have a go at Arriva?

[winston]

Suprised they never considered a super garage in South Staffs to replace Wolves & Walsall & possibly to have a go at Arriva?

Without going too much off topic, the way Arriva are exiting certain areas of their UK ops I can see them scaling back further.

Doubt South Staffs is prime bus territory, as the majority use alternative means of transport over the bus due to low frequencies / poor service provision / continual service cuts etc. The Arriva Midlands ops are on a downward spiral

[2900]

Just to kill off some rumours 120 will not be moving from THE FARM , 128 wil not be returning to blackheath, the 127 could be terminated to blackheath April time, 49/89 should be getting an extra bus to improve reliability, that extra will come off a school service which is making no money, X87 is just an idea currently, with local elections next  year nobody's going to rock the boat with huge bus service  changes, as for garage closure just rumours full stop. This is what I heard myself at wesbrom garage management meeting a few days a go. Other items on the agenda included PVR reduction, and AVL I won't go into to much detail about those.

[2206]

Just to kill off some rumours 120 will not be moving from THE FARM , 128 wil not be returning to blackheath, the 127 could be terminated to blackheath April time, 49/89 should be getting an extra bus to improve reliability, that extra will come off a school service which is making no money, X87 is just an idea currently, with local elections next  year nobody's going to rock the boat with huge bus service  changes, as for garage closure just rumours full stop. This is what I heard myself at wesbrom garage management meeting a few days a go. Other items on the agenda included PVR reduction, and AVL I won't go into to much detail about those.

Are the E400 currently being transfered from BC to WB to replace the ALX400 on the 127/8?

[Tony]

Are the E400 currently being transfered from BC to WB to replace the ALX400 on the 127/8?

No

[2206]

No

So they're for the 5, or 48 then, as the other decker routes at WB already have a E400 don't they, or will they just be used on any WB  decker route alongside ALX400?

[Trident 4194]

So they're for the 5, or 48 then, as the other decker routes at WB already have a E400 don't they, or will they just be used on any WB  decker route alongside ALX400?

Think they would be just ran alongside b7tl