London Northwestern Railway

[Roy]

For starters, it won't be long before the Liverpool services are handed over to 5-car Class 730/2 operation.  

Secondly, Galton Bridge is an interchange station which allows passengers from both ends of the Snow Hill lines to change onto a Liverpool service without having to walk across Birmingham City Centre.

Thirdly, the major timetable changes introduced in December 2022 had passive provision for a different stopping pattern for Liverpool services between New Street and Wolverhampton which could come into force next year.  I'm not going to elaborate on that.

[Wba_lad]

For starters, it won't be long before the Liverpool services are handed over to 5-car Class 730/2 operation. 

Secondly, Galton Bridge is an interchange station which allows passengers from both ends of the Snow Hill lines to change onto a Liverpool service without having to walk across Birmingham City Centre.

Thirdly, the major timetable changes introduced in December 2022 had passive provision for a different stopping pattern for Liverpool services between New Street and Wolverhampton which could come into force next year.  I'm not going to elaborate on that.

Yeah but then when the new 730/2 come into force if they double them up that will be a 10 coach service. Again Sandwell and Dudley will be idea to handle this. 

I see the point of Smethwick being a interchange station and making it easier for people to catch the Liverpool service however i thought it would of worked better from Sandwell and Dudley as a lot of people normally catch a service down to Wolverhampton for the Liverpool service. Most of the time when you buy a ticket it normally makes you swap in Birmingham anyway for the service especially if your coming from Stratford direction if your coming from Stourbridge and Kidderminster direction then they do tend to make you swap at Smethwick Galton bridge. 

[Tony]

Would it not make sense to make the Liverpool service stop at Sandwell and Dudley instead of Smethwick Galton bridge, the Liverpool services are always well most of the time 8 coach services, Smethwick Galton bridge can only fit the front train on where as Sandwell and Dudley is a longer platform and capable of fitting an 11 coach avanti west coast pendolino on, personally I think it makes sense but that's just me.

Bu then Smethwick loses its fast service to Wolverhampton, Stafford & Crewe, while Sandwell & Dudley already has one

[Wba_lad]

Bu then Smethwick loses its fast service to Wolverhampton, Stafford & Crewe, while Sandwell & Dudley already has one

Ah yeah that is true. 

[Sh4318]

Bu then Smethwick loses its fast service to Wolverhampton, Stafford & Crewe, while Sandwell & Dudley already has one

Just like Smethwick Galton Bridge lost its direct service to the airport, and Sandwell & Dudley now has two

Yeah but then when the new 730/2 come into force if they double them up that will be a 10 coach service. Again Sandwell and Dudley will be idea to handle this.

I see the point of Smethwick being a interchange station and making it easier for people to catch the Liverpool service however i thought it would of worked better from Sandwell and Dudley as a lot of people normally catch a service down to Wolverhampton for the Liverpool service. Most of the time when you buy a ticket it normally makes you swap in Birmingham anyway for the service especially if your coming from Stratford direction if your coming from Stourbridge and Kidderminster direction then they do tend to make you swap at Smethwick Galton bridge.

It's also an interchange for students wanting to travel from/to Worcester and Liverpool/the north west

[Wba_lad]

Just like Smethwick Galton Bridge lost its direct service to the airport, and Sandwell & Dudley now has twoIt's also an interchange for students wanting to travel from/to Worcester and Liverpool/the north west

Yeah I don't know why they swapped the Transport for wales and West Midlands railway to Shrewsbury but a lot of people at Sandwell and Dudley use the service to go to wales so maybe that's why. 

[Roy]

Yeah I don't know why they swapped the Transport for wales and West Midlands railway to Shrewsbury but a lot of people at Sandwell and Dudley use the service to go to wales so maybe that's why.

The December 2022 had the TfW service departing New Street at xx22 followed by passive provision for a second Shrewsbury service departing at xx26.  Had the TfW service continued to serve Galton Bridge with the Shrewsbury service serving Sandwell & Dudley, the Shrewsbury service would have been delayed by the TfW service when it stopped at Galton Bridge.  Thus the stopping patterns were swapped.  Since then, the second Shrewsbury service has been introduced at xx26 but runs via Tame Bridge Parkway so there is a case for the TfW service stopping pattern to be changed. 

[Jay71]

Staff want a pay rise. They get the rise & then they only work when they feel like working

[Tony]

Staff want a pay rise. They get the rise & then they only work when they feel like working

No, they work when they're contracted to work 

[Jay71]

No, they work when they're contracted to work

I was referring to 'Work to rule'

[Tony]

I was referring to 'Work to rule'

Don't you understand what 'work to rule' is?

It means you come into work and do exactly what you contract says.

[Solo1]

Wonder if they will have weekend staff work Friday till Monday  so they will be staff for Saturday /Sunday as families want to go out for trips this would help instead of no train I know weekend is overtime run unless thus has changed

[Jay71]

Don't you understand what 'work to rule' is?

It means you come into work and do exactly what you contract says.

Either way the service is shambolic.  You will probably say that the service which this company provides is wonderful

[mikestone]

Unless things have changed Saturday work is part of the standard week, only Sunday is covered by overtime.

[Stu]

Either way the service is shambolic.  You will probably say that the service which this company provides is wonderful

If you want to criticise any operator, then please provide some details and evidence to back up your opinion, because a blanket "shambolic" snipe is insufficient.