West Midlands Railway

[Bob]

Would you rather keep the diesels?

Well it woukdve saved literally millions if theyd have used extra diesels from elsewhere as and when they became available surely. I mean...to save a few minutes?

[Tony]

Well it woukdve saved literally millions if theyd have used extra diesels from elsewhere as and when they became available surely. I mean...to save a few minutes?

Which spare diesels are those?

Wasn't it you not long ago complaining about reliability not long ago? Well the class 350s have just won the 2018 golden spanner again by being 5 times more reliable than 170s.

And while it would have saved millions on installing the wires. That starts getting repaid quite quickly on lower operating costs

[Westy]

And we get a leccy service to London too!

[2206]

And we get a leccy service to London too!

Calling at all stations to London though - so 2 hours and 20 minute journey time at present from New St at present I believe.
I'd expect it'd be quicker to change at New St on to a Virgin Trains Service? I believe journey time from New St is just over 1 Hour 20 Minutes on Virgin?

[Dylanbusboy45]

Calling at all stations to London though - so 2 hours and 20 minute journey time at present from New St at present I believe.
I'd expect it'd be quicker to change at New St on to a Virgin Trains Service? I believe journey time from New St is just over 1 Hour 20 Minutes on Virgin?

Yep still about that in both cases. It's faster on LNWR if you time it right to change at Rugby for the Crewe-Euston which is all Trent Valley stations, then Nuneaton, Rugby and Milton Keynes.

In fact @Westy, as you are from Walsall, you would be quicker getting to Rubery TV, then catching the above service from there  ;)

[Bob]

Yep still about that in both cases. It's faster on LNWR if you time it right to change at Rugby for the Crewe-Euston which is all Trent Valley stations, then Nuneaton, Rugby and Milton Keynes.

In fact @Westy, as you are from Walsall, you would be quicker getting to Rubery TV, then catching the above service from there  ;)

So almost 3 hrs from Cannock to Euston? That'll be popular 😂

[Tony]

So almost 3 hrs from Cannock to Euston? That'll be popular 😂

Not everyone is in a rush, as you can tell by the number of people who already use LNWR from Birmingham already. The fact you can regularly get £6 tickets is a big draw

[Trident 4194]

Not everyone is in a rush, as you can tell by the number of people who already use LNWR from Birmingham already. The fact you can regularly get £6 tickets is a big draw

For those leisurely travellers maybe. I can't see many season ticket holders travelling on LNWR from Birmingham to London every day for work.

[BK63 YWP]

Not everyone is in a rush, as you can tell by the number of people who already use LNWR from Birmingham already. The fact you can regularly get £6 tickets is a big draw

And if you travel by Virgin it becomes twice as expensive for the same length of journey and the LNWR services I have seen towards London are busy and well used

[The Real 4778]

In fact @Westy, as you are from Walsall, you would be quicker getting to Rubery TV, then catching the above service from there  ;)

Rubery Trent Valley! 

[Westy]

Are the Rugeley Tv connections to London on the Walsall timetable leaflet?

If not, could LNWR make the leaflet available to Walsall station?

[Cheese]

Are the Rugeley Tv connections to London on the Walsall timetable leaflet?

If not, could LNWR make the leaflet available to Walsall station?

Connections at Rugeley TV for both Euston and Stafford are shown on the Chase Line timetable leaflet.

[Stuharris 6360]

For those leisurely travellers maybe. I can't see many season ticket holders travelling on LNWR from Birmingham to London every day for work.

Cost wise season ticket holders can save a lot of money travelling on LNWR

lets look at an annual season ticket (Prices: Virgin Trains Website)

Birmingham to London (Valid on West Midlands Railway and London Northwestern Railway services only.)  £5760.00
Birmingham to London (Valid only for travel via (changing trains or passing through) High Wycombe.)         £8648.00
Birmingham to London  (Travel is allowed via any permitted route.)                                                               £10900.00

@Trident 4194 Which option would you go for?

[Trident 4194]

Cost wise season ticket holders can save a lot of money travelling on LNWR

lets look at an annual season ticket (Prices: Virgin Trains Website)

Birmingham to London (Valid on West Midlands Railway and London Northwestern Railway services only.)  £5760.00
Birmingham to London (Valid only for travel via (changing trains or passing through) High Wycombe.)         £8648.00
Birmingham to London  (Travel is allowed via any permitted route.)                                                               £10900.00

@Trident 4194 Which option would you go for?

Well if I had a job in London which required say a 8am start, you wouldn't get me getting a train a whole hour earlier, every day because it's 3,000 cheaper. I guess this is where virgin say you can't put a price on time saving. Chiltern I would go with but I wouldn't do LNWR everyday, it's just not practical in my opinion. Most people after they finish want to get home as quickly as possible which can't be achieved through LNWR

[Tony]

Well if I had a job in London which required say a 8am start, you wouldn't get me getting a train a whole hour earlier, every day because it's 3,000 cheaper. I guess this is where virgin say you can't put a price on time saving. Chiltern I would go with but I wouldn't do LNWR everyday, it's just not practical in my opinion. Most people after they finish want to get home as quickly as possible which can't be achieved through LNWR

But from Hednesford, where I live the prices are exactly the same, but I can get to London Euston in 2 hours 8 minutes on LNWR, but it takes 2 hours 15 minutes using Virgin!