West Midlands Railway

[Cheese]

Indeed, that journey is booked 172/0 or 172/2 depending on what's available

Yep, since the timetable change that service has been a 172/0 or 172/2, see it most mornings going through Bournville before my train. Then works the 0720 New Street to Great Malvern. Always used to be a 170/5 before.

[B61 ANDREW]

Indeed, that journey is booked 172/0 or 172/2 depending on what's available

Thanks for the information. Not called in at that time for a few weeks. Only called to see what was on the "nukes". And for the record the same working produced 172-216 this morning.  :D

[Sh4318]

According to the Stourbridge Line User Group Facebook page, the following are the non-standard Monday to Friday Snow Hill line diagrams.

170/5 + 153 +153

2S10 0649 Worcester Shrub Hill to Whitlocks End
2K05 0837 Whitlocks End to Kidderminster
2C20 0955 Kidderminster to Dorridge
2K20 1109 Dorridge to Kidderminster
2S40 1225 Kidderminster to Whitlocks End
2K36 1340 Whitlocks End to Kidderminster
2C50 1455 Kidderminster to Dorridge
2K51 1609 Dorridge to Kidderminster
2S72 1725 Kidderminster to Whitlocks End
2K65 1845 Whitlocks End to Kidderminster
2C74 2005 Kidderminster to Dorridge
2V79 2118 Dorridge to Worcester Foregate Street

172/0 + 172/0

2S08 0735 Birmingham Snow Hill to Whitlocks End
2K04 0807 Whitlocks End to Kidderminster
2C18 0936 Kidderminster to Dorridge
2V20 1046 Dorridge to Worcester Foregate Street
2C36 1216 Worcester Foregate Street to Dorridge
2V32 1346 Dorridge to Worcester Shrub Hill
2C54 1517 Worcester Shrub Hill to Dorridge
2V44 1646 Dorridge to Worcester Shrub Hill
2C70 1837 Worcester Shrub Hill to Dorridge
2K75 2030 Dorridge to Kidderminster
2S90 2145 Kidderminster to Stratford-upon-Avon
2W88 2330 Stratford-upon-Avon to Birmingham Snow Hill

170/5 + 170/5

2C06 0630 Worcester Shrub Hill to Dorridge
2V10 0811 Dorridge to Worcester Shrub Hill
2S26 0952 Worcester Shrub Hill to Whitlocks End
2V22 1119 Whitlocks End to Worcester Shrub Hill
2C42 1317 Worcester Shrub Hill to Dorridge
2V36 1446 Dorridge to Worcester Foregate Street
2C62 1634 Worcester Foregate Street to Dorridge
2J71 1824 Dorridge to Stourbridge Junction
5J71 1939 Stourbridge Junction to Tyseley L.M.D.

The 0709 SBJ-WTE was worked by a 170/6 today. Deputising for a 172/3 perhaps?

SBJ - Stourbridge Junction
WTE - Whitlock's End

[Rob H]

The 0709 SBJ-WTE was worked by a 170/6 today. Deputising for a 172/3 perhaps?

SBJ - Stourbridge Junction
WTE - Whitlock's End

I believe its meant to be a 170/6 here is the diagram;

5S90 06:38 Worcester L.M.D. – Stourbridge Junction
2S90 07:09 Stourbridge Junction – Whitlocks End
2J92 08:23 Whitlocks End – Stourbridge Junction
2B80 09:15 Stourbridge Junction – Birmingham Snow Hill
5B80 09:43 Birmingham Snow Hill – Tyseley L.M.D.

[Bob]

Chase lines all over the shop. The 15.21 is showing on trainline as cancalled from New St yet its running. The 15.46 showing as on time yet at New St is showing as cancelled! Imagine if people havent checked and just thought ill wait for the 15.46!

[uniquicity]

Chase lines all over the shop. The 15.21 is showing on trainline as cancalled from New St yet its running. The 15.46 showing as on time yet at New St is showing as cancelled! Imagine if people havent checked and just thought ill wait for the 15.46!

Blame the Trainline for the first. The National Rail data which will appear at the stations doesn't show any issues with the 15.21.

15.46 is running, it is usually a Northampton to Rugeley working (which is showing as cancelled) but today is being done with an untimetabled Euston to Rugeley. Should just have left Tile Hill

[Stuharris 6360]

Blame the Trainline for the first. The National Rail data which will appear at the stations doesn't show any issues with the 15.21.

15.46 is running, it is usually a Northampton to Rugeley working (which is showing as cancelled) but today is being done with an untimetabled Euston to Rugeley. Should just have left Tile Hill

Open Train Times blogged yesterday as to how unreliable data feeds have become over the last few weeks, this could be why trains are either not showing or are showing incorrect information.

[Tony]

Open Train Times blogged yesterday as to how unreliable data feeds have become over the last few weeks, this could be why trains are either not showing or are showing incorrect information.

That's why moaning from the train line instead of reality is stupid. If you look at Saturday at Rugeley Trent Valley the 1838 arrival from Birmingham was cancelled.  The 1840 from Birmingham was cancelled, but the 1840 from Birmingham was on time! No there aren't 3 trains through Cannock in three minutes. There's one and it was on time, but keyboard warriors will probably note two cancellations. The  only reason I was checking that one was I was waiting for it at Rugeley

[Stuharris 6360]

That's why moaning from the train line instead of reality is stupid. If you look at Saturday at Rugeley Trent Valley the 1838 arrival from Birmingham was cancelled.  The 1840 from Birmingham was cancelled, but the 1840 from Birmingham was on time! No there aren't 3 trains through Cannock in three minutes. There's one and it was on time, but keyboard warriors will probably note two cancellations. The  only reason I was checking that one was I was waiting for it at Rugeley

By the looks of it, the original train was cancelled at Northampton due to train crew issues, however the control obviously had a spare set so ran it in place, on time between New Street and Rugeley. The other cancellation was due to someone putting the extra train in the system twice.

Sadly things like the Trainline app are not very good when things like this are taking place, basically becuase they can't discriminate between fact and fiction!!

[Westy]

I can see this Walsall to London coming off.

It seems seriously unreliable, reading these posts.

[dingding]

Been pretty dire for the last few weeks since the TT change. It is annoying to say the least when you get turfed off the train at Coventry with no explanation and the following train runs but misses out all booked stops between International and New Street again without explanation! Luckily the Virgin staff put a stop order for Marston Green for on the 2018 to Liverpool. Obviously WMR prefer to try to meet punctuality performance targets over providing a service which seems to be pretty much all over the place at the moment. Hopefully the timetable will settle down but with the much longer distances now being covered the opportunity to lose time is obvious. Just wish there was a bit of communication from control to let on board and platform staff know what is going on when disruption occurs!

[B61 ANDREW]

153-375 with 153-334 doing the Hereford > New Street > Hereford today , also noted 172-003. :D

[JoNi]

Late last Friday night passengers on board a late running Virgin train I was on wanted to catch the last Leamington train at Coventry. Full marks to whoever diverted the Virgin Train to platform 2 and routed the WMT Leamington train into platform 3 so that they could walk across and catch it.

[Kevin]

Late last Friday night passengers on board a late running Virgin train I was on wanted to catch the last Leamington train at Coventry. Full marks to whoever diverted the Virgin Train to platform 2 and routed the WMT Leamington train into platform 3 so that they could walk across and catch it.

Virgin arranged for the TfW service from Chester to Shrewsbury to wait for them at Wrexham when their train from London was late last week. They seem to be the only company I've heard of in recent years that have the clout / power to arrange this

[Stuharris 6360]

Virgin arranged for the TfW service from Chester to Shrewsbury to wait for them at Wrexham when their train from London was late last week. They seem to be the only company I've heard of in recent years that have the clout / power to arrange this

Really it's about time that railway companies weren't penalised for late running if they have been delayed to maintain a connection.